Originally Posted by BBFan
The Jonas look like white skinned version of their black grandaddy. His genes are strong and that Bob Barr looks black, but you never know he
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The Jonas look like white skinned version of their black grandaddy. His genes are strong and that Bob Barr looks black, but you never know he may really have 0 blackness in him, race is a tricky thing.
Most quadroons come out looking whiter than those Jonas Brothers, if they are that mix. They're basically white men with Black ancestry.
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Beyonce's mother Tina is a LOUSIANA CREOLE. In present Louisiana, Créole generally means a person or people of mixed colonial French, Spanish, African American, and Native American ancestry. Some may not have every ethnic heritage and some have additional ancestries.
Notable Louisiana Creoles
My father is a Lousiana Creole, and those people are infamous for passing lol, just wanted to point that out because a lot of people here "creole" and think Hatian, there are all different types of "creole", from languages to ethnic cultures.
So I went back and found the video I saw. It was an edited version of a longer video from Yes We Can Haiti after the earthquake so, that's where my wires got crossed. You can look at it:
. She didn't ID herself as Hatian but she did ID herself as Creole through her mother. Maybe some of the pop-up's were to encourage more charitable donations through her brand??? In this second video she explains her background and the interviewer actually asks her to repeat after him:
. Either way, I just thought it was cool for her to take pride in her heritage, culture, language, etc. I also saw something about Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie as well as some other people.
How many of you ignorant bishes have ever set foot in Louisiana? Do you know what it means if someone is called "limye"? Do you know what a gris-gris is? Have you ever participated in a juré at church? Do you know why zydeco isn't creole? Do you even know what the hell zydeco is?
Louisiana Creole is not a fucking ethnicity, it's a CULTURE! Somewhere along the line, people have twisted it all up so that it's synonymous with biracial. Mixed people who are trying to claim that Louisiana Creole is an ethnicity are lost and are getting it twisted. And you dumbasses believe it because you don't know squat about Louisiana and the various CULTURES there. There are Louisiana Creoles who look like they just stepped off of a boat from the Ivory Coast. I hate that Beyonce even mentioned this ish because now people, who have never set foot in Louisiana, think they know what the fuck it means to be Creole. All Creoles aren't of mixed ancestry. A Creole can be Black, White, Mixed, and hell, even Asian. What makes them creole is the CULTURE they share.
My mother is from Louisiana and one of my uncles, her brother, was married to a Creole woman who was black as tar with with coal, coarse black hair all the way down her back.
So I went back and found the video I saw. It was an edited version of a longer video from Yes We Can Haiti after the earthquake so, that's where my wires got crossed. You can look at it: YouTube - Beyoncé Speaks Haitian Créole - Proud of her Créole Heritage - Sak Pase?. She didn't ID herself as Hatian but she did ID herself as Creole through her mother. Maybe some of the pop-up's were to encourage more charitable donations through her brand??? In this second video she explains her background and the interviewer actually asks her to repeat after him: YouTube - Beyonce Speaking Haitian Creole, Sak Pase?. Either way, I just thought it was cool for her to take pride in her heritage, culture, language, etc. I also saw something about Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie as well as some other people.
Noone is contending that Beyonce is not Creole. Folks were merely trying to point out that she is not Haitian Creole, as these videos confirm.
My Louisiana people who really know what's up (and didn't learn about creoles and Louisiana from Beyonce), notice what's in the background.
I was really impressed with the young man in the first video. I could relate to a lot of his family history. He explained Creole history and heritage quite well. However, that stuff about marking Louisiana Creole on the census, I had to raise an eyebrow on that one.
Noone is contending that Beyonce is not Creole. Folks were merely trying to point out that she is not Haitian Creole, as these videos confirm.
I was speaking out of my fuzzy memory about something I saw a while ago concerning her heritage. Some of the response posts were very informative and helpful... while others were not. I had no intention of offending- didn't think it was that big a deal. My only point was that she's black by American standards. And I'll stay in my language lane: paz y bendiciones
Hmmm, I thought she was a first-generation mulatta.
Nope. The first generation mulatta of the Cosby show was Lisa Bonet. But did you know that Phylicia Rashad and her sister Debbie Allan are also biracial. Her father was American Indian and her mother is an accomplished African-American poet and playwrite. So she's not just singing that tired old negro song of "I've got some Indian in me;" (LOL) she really does.
I just love Phylicia; she just oozes class and her family is so accomplished. Check out her bio
The daughter of full-blooded Cherokee dentist Dr. Andrew Arthur Allen and African-American Pulitzer Prize-nominated poet/playwright Dr. Vivian Elizabeth Ayers, Phylicia Ayers-Allen was born on June 19, 1948, in Houston, Texas. The second of three children, Phylicia has one older brother named Andrew Arthur Allen Jr. (born on October 2, 1945), and a younger sister named Debbie Allen (born on January 16, 1950), the Emmy-winning actress-dancer-choreographer of "Fame" (NBC, 1981-87). Phylicia also has another brother, Hugh Allen, who is a real estate banker in North Carolina.
Rashad's mother, Vivian Ayers Allen, left
brother Tex Allen (saxophonist)
Phylicia Ayers-Allen was born on June 19, 1948, in Houston, Texas. The second of three children, Phylicia has one older brother named Andrew Arthur Allen Jr. (born on October 2, 1945), and a younger sister named Debbie Allen (born on January 16, 1950), the Emmy-winning actress-dancer-choreographer of "Fame" (NBC, 1981-87). Phylicia also has another brother, Hugh Allen, who is a real estate banker in North Carolina.
It was a family affair! Houston's three-time Emmy Award-winning choreographer, Debbie Allen, her sister Tony Award-winner, Phylicia Rashad, and their mother Pulitzer Prize-nominated writer, Vivian Ayers-Allen, gathered to celebrate Vivian Nixon, Allen's daughter, who starred as "Anita" in Theatre Under The Stars' production of West Side Story at the Hobby Center. Photo by Bruce Bennett.
I was speaking out of my fuzzy memory about something I saw a while ago concerning her heritage. Some of the response posts were very informative and helpful... while others were not. I had no intention of offending- didn't think it was that big a deal. My only point was that she's black by American standards. And I'll stay in my language lane: paz y bendiciones
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Nope. The first generation mulatta of the Cosby show was Lisa Bonet. But did you know that Phylicia Rashad and her sister Debbie Allan are also biracial. Her father was American Indian and her mother is an accomplished African-American poet and playwrite. So she's not just singing that tired old negro song of "I've got some Indian in me;" (LOL) she really does.
I just love Phylicia; she just oozes class and her family is so accomplished. Check out her bio
The daughter of full-blooded Cherokee dentist Dr. Andrew Arthur Allen and African-American Pulitzer Prize-nominated poet/playwright Dr. Vivian Elizabeth Ayers, Phylicia Ayers-Allen was born on June 19, 1948, in Houston, Texas. The second of three children, Phylicia has one older brother named Andrew Arthur Allen Jr. (born on October 2, 1945), and a younger sister named Debbie Allen (born on January 16, 1950), the Emmy-winning actress-dancer-choreographer of "Fame" (NBC, 1981-87). Phylicia also has another brother, Hugh Allen, who is a real estate banker in North Carolina.
Rashad's mother, Vivian Ayers Allen, left
brother Tex Allen (saxophonist)
Phylicia Ayers-Allen was born on June 19, 1948, in Houston, Texas. The second of three children, Phylicia has one older brother named Andrew Arthur Allen Jr. (born on October 2, 1945), and a younger sister named Debbie Allen (born on January 16, 1950), the Emmy-winning actress-dancer-choreographer of "Fame" (NBC, 1981-87). Phylicia also has another brother, Hugh Allen, who is a real estate banker in North Carolina.
It was a family affair! Houston's three-time Emmy Award-winning choreographer, Debbie Allen, her sister Tony Award-winner, Phylicia Rashad, and their mother Pulitzer Prize-nominated writer, Vivian Ayers-Allen, gathered to celebrate Vivian Nixon, Allen's daughter, who starred as "Anita" in Theatre Under The Stars' production of West Side Story at the Hobby Center. Photo by Bruce Bennett.
Well, Sabrina's last name shoulda been a dead giveaway for her Creole heritage, LOL. I saw some mixed folks claiming her on mulatto.org. I believed from the gate that Phylicia was that mix, cuz my father is too, and they resemble (hair, color, facial structure), but he's not Cherokee. I debated Phylicia's race on another board, and I caught all kinds of hell. People act like brown-skinned folks can't be biracial... if anything, they look more mixed than the lighter folks, cuz their features (hair, nose, eyes) look closer to non-Black, usually... whereas a lighter mixed person usually has obviously Black facial features and kinkier hair.
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Found another Johnny Depp pic in another Amerindian t-shirt representing' (map of America that says "Indian territory"). Old pic from the early-mid 1990s.
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I know Creole is not a race... Something I read said that she was Hatian Creole... Is that not an ethnicity?
I dunno... I didn't examine her genetic makeup... but I saw a video of her speaking the language not that ol' country twang lol. Don't they call Creole a dialect??? If you refer to my original post, I said she was black... This was supposed to be a passing comment... Anyhoo... enough Beyonce talk. Avoir!
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