No, its YOU who wouldn't understand! Men are NOT typically trying to be a father to 4 children who aren't there own.

Your father's the bitch, if you know him, and if you're not married now you won't be.

And don't tell me about Bruce Jennar because you obviously don't know about the funds left to her by Robert Kardashian. Its you who needs to check your facts.

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I hear you.
Folks also need to take into account that things are different when you have money..not that Sole is rich, but I'm just saying. A woman who has money and a good career doesn't play by the same rules as a woman without these things because she can afford to pay people to watch her kids. She can afford to put the kids in activities, the whole nine.

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Usher is/was not sane when he made that move. He came to senses after the marriage but now its too late.

I know you're not saying Sole is papered, nor Genuine.

PS - I am not a misogynist. Just a realest! It's NOT my fault if you can't accept the truth!

LOL!

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I sorta think people don't think of marriage the right way. To me your spouse should be your family. Let me explain: If your kids fuck up, you don't say I'ma divorce your ass, you aint my child anymore. We are so quick not to work things out with our spouses. That's why a lot of marriages don't last. i don't think its right for a man to constantly cheat on his wife, but mistakes do happen. If we truly start thinking of a spouses as say our parents or children, I think we would be better off. Their are extreme cases where you have to get rid of somebody, but I think we are just a divorce happy nation. I might be wrong, but that's my whole take on the instituition of marriage.

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Elgin you haave fucked up

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Oh I know my Father Bitch...Do you??? Of course not......don't take it out on me because you hate your mother for making you who you are.

You don't know shit...if you did, you'd know that Kris and Robert were in a big struggle over the money and finally Bruce told him to forget the money...he was going to provide for Kris....and what the FUCK does that have to do with what we were talking about?? He married her like I said.
Silly Cunt, Tricks are for kids and reading is fundamental. Go put your helmet on.

...and by the way Bitch, we're not talking about TYPICAL stupid ass men like you....we're talking about REAL men. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

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Sire, imma need you to get off my girl Pressley like that. But I agree with your statement. Most men are not trying to wife a woman with mutiple kids. It's a hassle that you don't won't to have to put up with. Dealing with baby daddies and shit, no thank you. But you can't say all men want wife a good woman with kids, so dudes are made of better stuff, i'm not one of them, but they do exist.

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why did my post come up as incog?!

Wow if this is true I feel for her she wasn't even married that long

Solé met Ginuwine in June 1999[6] and began dating in October 1999 [6]. Solè married Ginuwine on September 8, 2003 in the Caribbean. They live in Georgia and Maryland[citation needed]. They have two daughters together and a total of five children:

• Elgin Jr (1992) (Ginuwine's son from previous relationship)
• De'jan (9 March 1991) (Solé's previous relationship)
• Cypress (9 January 1994) (Solé's previous relationship)
• Story (29 March 01)[7]
• Dream Sarae Lumpkin(1 November 02)

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Hmmmm.....I think I see where you're going with this, but the thing is, if I'm in love with a man, the ultimate betrayal is him having sex with another woman....and I imagine the ultimate for him would be the same thing if I did it. That's hard to come around from....I mean, unless you're in a marriage for things other than the fact that you love that person. If it's a marriage of convenience then nevermind.

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If it's your girl then keep her in check. If not I will continue to do so when addressed in such manner.

As for your statements, yes, most dudes are NOT trying to wife up chicks with 4 kids. Dudes aren't trying to save chicks from their previous missteps and poor life choices. However, infedelity in a marriage is outside of the girl's control. But she should have been a bit more careful whom she married.

Pressley, you're looking for attention in the wrong place. Yes, I do, even if you don't. And again, Your father is a bitch! And its clear the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. As for a real man you wouldn't know one based upon that bitch ass father.

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I don't know, but have we romanticized marriage too much? Say your in love with a good person, and he treats you right and loves you. He fucks around and slips up. Now I know you feel ultimately betrayed, I would too. Do you up and divorce him? Giving in to your emotions and possible losing out on the love of your life, because of one mistake. Because who says he will ever do it again? What about the extra income that man brought into the household, the feelings of security in marriage, the being held on a darky and stormy night lol. But for real tho, do you throw that all away over an emotion of betrayal that might dissipate with time/

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Aww how I Pressley, Qbone20, and Sire for keeping the thread entertaining

Now I digress that I do have to agree with Sire in some aspect, to me a woman with multiple kids coming into a relationship is harder. Pressley is right though men do not get treated badly for coming into a relationship with kids as well. If I were a man I wouldn't look twice at Nicole Murphy, Vanessa L. Williams, or Tonya Michelle Johnston Lumpkin (Sole), because I wouldn't want to be bothered with extra headaches of having extra mouthves to feed, finances to shell out, and babydaddies/ex-husbands to deal with.

In the long run Pressley is right just because a woman has kids doesn't mean no one will want her. There are women out here who I see everyday who multiple kids by multiple men but still get men, rings, and marriage. Is the choice of the man and if a woman comes with kids then so be it she is a complete package. If you accept the woman you must accept the kids.

As for the Usher comment, he once said what makes his wife so good is that she knows him and she works for herself. She came to the relationship with 3 kids and it wasn't a secret. He enjoys being a stepdad and having two more kids with her, and hell if he wants to provide a mansion, millions, and a ring for her at his expense then who am I to judge. Team Tameka

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Pressley don't need little ole me to keep her in check lol. But lets not let this go back and forth. Its some good dialogue on here, be a shame for it to get bumped to the back alley.

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Yes because he wasn't thinking of me as his wife the love of his life when he was cheating. Men cheat women cheat, but if a man gets cheated on and then they want to act out. Fuck the extra income for all you know I could be the breadwinner so his income doesn't mean shit. The values of marriage should go on both sides, no one is perfect but adultery is grounds for a divorce and dammit if you cheat on me and I find out about it one time that means there could possibly be other times I don't know about it.

The disease, the fact that there could extra marital children, women who dont' take no for an answer there is alot of damage that can be done from cheating that one time

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