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Has anyone else heard of the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research? My cousin is a part of this group. They don't call it church, they call it a school. Services
Has anyone else heard of the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research? My cousin is a part of this group. They don't call it church, they call it a school. Services are called "class". Apparently, you are required to go three days a week or you won't be saved or some bullshit like that. And God can only be called Yahweh. It's really crazy and takes up a lot of her time. She even broke up with her fiancee because his job was going to move them to a down that didn't have an IDMR "class".
She's trying to get me to go and I keep telling her no. She goes on and on about it. If religion ever comes up in a conversation, she just goes off and can spend the next 5 minutes talking about "Yahweh" and how she's chosen and how the rest of us need to "come to class". It's crazy.
I want to tell her she's in a cult but, let me tell you, she is downright scary when she talks about it. I'm scared she might haul off and hit me if I tell her she's in a cult.
What should I do, y'all?! She's young and I feel like she's wasting her life in this "class".
Class every Sunday, Wednesday, and Friday night. I know a little about it. A guy I used to date took me a few times. Classic cult behavior.
When you are a "guest" you have to sit in the front, in the center. Around you are all the paintings, drawing, and visual material they use to indoctrinate you. Class is taught almost military style. If you don't know any better, I can see how you get caught up in it. There's a lot of togetherness, almost like it is being forced on you. She will start to see the real game soon. The financial window. Having to drop everything when the elder calls. I think they alienate people from their families.
The founder of that religion (Clifford something or other) was supposedly given divine knowledge a la Moses.
There are some good things about their lessons. I think the way they discuss the significance in the design of the holy temple is most like accurate.
Class every Sunday, Wednesday, and Friday night. I know a little about it. A guy I used to date took me a few times. Classic cult behavior.
When you are a "guest" you have to sit in the front, in the center. Around you are all the paintings, drawing, and visual material they use to indoctrinate you. Class is taught almost military style. If you don't know any better, I can see how you get caught up in it. There's a lot of togetherness, almost like it is being forced on you. She will start to see the real game soon. The financial window. Having to drop everything when the elder calls. I think they alienate people from their families.
The founder of that religion (Clifford something or other) was supposedly given divine knowledge a la Moses.
There are some good things about their lessons. I think the way they discuss the significance in the design of the holy temple is most like accurate.
Yes, she goes every Sunday, Wed, and Fri! And when she doesn't go, she goes ballistic! She feels the only way she can be sane and calm is if she is regularly going to "class". She doesn't even like to go on vacations to places that don't have IDRM "classes". And if she does go, she will be in "class" those very nights of her vacation. It's crazy and no one likes to go anywhere with her because of that. We visited another cousin in southern California a few years ago, and my other cousin refused to take her to "class". They got into a big argument about how she's chosen and how we shouldn't go against her because we don't know who we are dealing with and all kinds of crazy cultish bullshit. So then this chick ended up spending a pretty penny on a taxi to take her to "class" all three days.
She's an intelligent person and I can't believe she actually falls for this bullshit.
I'll tell you this. If you go once, she'll want you to go again and again. After a while I think they believe they "have" you.
You have to be as forceful with them in not going to class as they are in getting you to come to class.
Oh, honey. I don't even go to church, so there's no way in hell I'm going to an IDMR "class", ok. I'm a born skeptic. I do believe in God, but CHURCH does not sit well with me. I can remember being 5 years old and giving the happy church jogging congregants around me the side eye, ok. IDMR could never get a person like me. LOL
I don't know if it's the same thing my cousin got into, but she was in a church pretty heavy
I remember when we met the lady who introduced my cousin to the church, she just came up to us all friendly like and was just shooting the breeze. She casually asked where my cousin worked (my cousin has a really good job) and then asked where I worked. At the time, I was a poor college student working at Sears, so she wasn't interested in me at all.
My cousin invited me to one of their meetings, I didn't have to sit in the front, but I really remember how at the meeting, the "pastor" gave a loong ass sermon about how money is the root of all evil and that we need to give it to the church and that a ten percent sacrifice is not a real tithe, he said You must HURT and DO WITHOUT to sacrifice for the Lord, your rewards will be great in heaven
My cousin lasted with them about three months until she realized how money hungry they were and how most sermons were about sacrifice and service
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This is one of those Sacred Names organizations. It's almost an offshoot of black Jews but I don't believe they observe any dietary restrictions.
The lessons are repetitive. They teach heavily from the Old Testament, especially with Jews and Joseph in Egypt portions.
Speaking of repetition, when she goes on one of her rants, she uses certain phrases again and again. She's like that bing.com commercial, lol! It's like as soon as someone mentions any kind of religion or spirituality, her brain pulls up all kind of IDMR phrases and saying and she says the exact same shit as the last time she ranted!
Oh, and what really tipped me off to this being a cult was when she would try to tell me about but then say "I can't really get into it, you just need to come to class". She always says that. Now, I've never heard a true Christian say, "I can't tell you about Jesus, you're going to have to come to church to hear about Him."
She'll go on and on, but as soon as you ask her about core beliefs, she'll tell you you can only really find out in class. SMH
As far as anything I have seen or heard, the Name is not for us to know or to utter.
Yud He Vav He are the 4 letters of the tetragrammaton that denote letters contained in the Name, which the Gentiles have given a pronunciation "Yahweh" but in Orthodox Jewish circles even the 4 letters of the tetragrammaton are so sacred, they are deliberately mispronounced in order to avoid even the appearance of blasphemy. "Yud, Kay, Vav, Kay" is how the letters are pronounced.
Can you see, then, why the ChaBaD Chassidim refer to Him as "HaShem" which means "The Name"?
In truth, no one knows His Name because He alone knows it - it is through His utterance of His Holy Name that the vibratory frequency of the entire creation came into being, and by the breath of that utterance it is sustained.
When He utters the final syllable, that is when the creation will collapse.
If this makes her a better person and she is not hurting anyone than let her have her religion. Some people can not perform properly unless they are restricted in some way. Not everyone can live without rules.
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Originally Posted by femi94ce
As far as anything I have seen or heard, the Name is not for us to know or to utter.
In truth, no one knows His Name because He alone knows it - it is through His utterance of His Holy Name that the vibratory frequency of the entire creation came into being, and by the breath of that utterance it is sustained.
I was going to say this but it was not going to come out as well as you put it.
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