I just saw the clip where Tamra says the next step is divorce. I think it may have to do with financial troubles but also that Tamra is low class. Her husband is always giving her a "I wish she'd STFU" look. I don't know why but I think she's cheated on him before. She seems loose.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Taryll

Checking in early been hyping it up in ATL Housewives thread

...looks like they are going to show Jeana keeping it real getting served an eviction notice

....it could give ATL a run for its money

I thought it was Lynn's broke ass, oh well I like Jeanna although her kids are SPOILED, well so is Lynn's bratty ass child.

I'm always seeing Gretchen and Slade together, she's real short, they like attention, he doesn't look any better in person IMO.

Originally Posted by Nisi@Cali

I thought it was Lynn's broke ass, oh well I like Jeanna although her kids are SPOILED, well so is Lynn's bratty ass child.

I'm always seeing Gretchen and Slade together, she's real short, they like attention, he doesn't look any better in person IMO.

It was both of them that got served an eviction notice. From the previews Jeana admits her income is down 2/3 compared to what she used to make. She brought a total of 5 homes which she didn't even use. As a matter of fact her youngest boy lived with her. The oldest is doing minor league college baseball and her daughter is in college living in a dorm. Why did she think that 5 homes was necessary?

As for Lynn aka Steve Tyler of Aerosmith, her dumbass got served an eviction notice because her husband was renting out that big house. All the while buying BMWs for his daughter (used or not) but instead of flaunting on t.v. pay your damn bills. Or better yet if you can afford to rent for that amount of money in California then buy a damn house that is in your price range.

Slade is messy as hell he went from Jo, to Botox Bitch Lauri, to Gretchen. I saw them on the red carpet when she won an award for being a reality show beauty but she has lost alot of points with me. Slade has always been shady to me.

Can't wait! The ladies are so catty. I always wonder what Jo(Slade's ex) is up to.

Still trying to be a damn singer and she cant' sing. She had Gretchen appear in her music video and had Slade managing her career.

This is Gretchen's blog on her website about Tamara and the "lost footage episode" It's a long read but Gretchen explains the backstory of her and Tamara's feud.


The REAL story about Gretchen & Tamra!

September 15th, 2009
June 15th, 2009
This was the blog that was up at bravo.com in response to Tamra’s blog and her false accusations on the “lost footage” episode
I had already written my blog yesterday regarding this “lost episode” and didn’t get to send it in because I was at Slade’s son’s graduation. On my way home I received tons of calls and e-mails regarding Tamra’s blog on Bravotv.com and the “excuses” she used for her inappropriate actions on the reunion show. So of course, I read what she wrote and now feel forced to address the lies she continues to spin to the press and the public. Sorry in advance for this being long winded, but I have been QUIET for way too long, and it’s about time the truth be told as Tamra so eloquently pointed out.
First of all let me state this very clearly, Tamra changes her story according to how it best suites her in that moment. I have honestly never met anyone so contradictory in my life (or someone that just plan lies to your face)
Let’s address some of Tamra’s “stories” as I like to call them. She states that I asked her and Simon to have a threesome the night of the dinner party in the very late hours of that dinner, but contradictory to that claim, she sent me several texts after seeing that footage, stating that she was appalled at what she said about getting me “naked wasted” and that she was so drunk she had no idea she said those things at all. So if that was the case, then how convenient for her now, all of a sudden to have a clear mind that night and remember that she supposedly heard me say I wanted to have a threesome? Maybe that’s a fantasy of hers, but it surly is not mine. I would never say something like that, as a matter of fact Tamra is the one who spends her time on national TV talking about having crazy sex and shopping at sex shops, and having to keep things better then the same old peanut butter and jelly sandwich. She said the same thing she text me on the Bonnie Hunt show “I had no idea that I even said, let’s get Gretchen Naked wasted, we were all so drunk” but again now the story is she somehow clearly remembers me saying that I wanted to have a threesome that night. How miraculous that she all of a sudden pops out of her drunken state and could remember what was said and to boot at the late part of the night (aren’t you normally drunker later?) In her own blog about that dinner party she states that Simon stayed up with me making some food while she was hugging a toilet. So when did I say this exactly again? If you ask me she wasn’t getting any response from me during the reunion show about her accusations so she needed to reach for the stars on something else hoping it might stick. (I.e. I picked up on Don, Ryan, and then the threesome comment) I mean seriously what is it? Pick one already. This is when you see me drop my mouth in amazement and say “you seriously have some balls”. Tamra was reaching even for her.
Story #2: About “Jay and I” involving Tamra in a love triangle. First let me be clear again there was no love triangle to involve Tamra in, second Jay, NOT me involved Tamra in this. I said it on the reunion show and I say it again now, “I cannot control what someone else does”. Jay was someone that I thought was a friend and it turned out he wanted something much more with me, when he couldn’t have that it caused him to do things that were not normal. Jay calling Tamra in the middle of the night was because he was drunk and angry. He wanted to hurt me and therefore he tried to create conflict by calling Tamra and claiming he was my boyfriend. Tamra took the bait, hook line and sinker and he got exactly what he wanted. The next morning when Tamra and I talked about it, I apologized to her that he had called and said I was not sure how he had her number but maybe he had gotten into my computer or my phone. Unfortunately at the time Jay was someone I considered to be a very dear friend, and he was someone that I believed had my best interest at heart. He would come to the house offering to take out the trash, or change light bulbs, or help around the house since Jeff was no longer around to do those things. Unbeknown to me he was going through my things, stealing pictures, and had access to my computer during those times . Now I know he was planning on hurting me with those things at some point if he couldn’t have the relationship he wanted. I later heard that he was heard bragging around town he would figure out a way to make money off me. After Jay made the phone call to Tamra that night I felt horrible and called her in the morning saying how sorry I was that he called her that night and that he was acting like a stalker, because his actions were causing me to feel that way. I didn’t speak to him for weeks until he sent a “I’m sorry” e-mail. He stated he was drunk and was wrong for doing that. Tamra and I correlated over e-mail, she said she understood and was sorry I was dealing with that because she has dealt with some of the same issues with guys from her past before, and I believed we had put it behind us. Obviously that was not the case. And just for the record Tamra had been on camera saying crap about me long before this “phone call” to her was made. For her to blame her actions towards me on this guy calling, I believe was just a cop out. And as Lynne so brilliantly said during the “lost footage”, “So what’s your reason Tamra for being so mean to me” proves my point even more.

Gretchen's blog continued..
Story # 3: I had no idea Jay continued to call her until much later, and once again him continuing to call her is not anything I was controlling. Tamra said on the “lost episode” that he kept calling every night at late hours, so if that doesn’t prove my point of him acting like a “stalker” I don’t know what would, but again I didn’t know this till much later that he was continuing to call her. Jay acted one way with me, but was obviously up to something else behind the scenes. I have never been or seen Tamra out and about while I was on the town so for her to say she saw us “very cozy” while out is a flat out lie! I had no idea that Jay was talking to Simon behind my back and feeding him lies about our supposed relationship till much later. I now realize it was part of a bigger plan. In regards to her comments on Bass Lake, Jay decided to drive up to Bass Lake for one day claiming he was sick of partying in Havasu for the holiday. I told him I would be there with my family and that he was welcome to come up to Bass Lake and hang out for the day because it was very chill. My family knew who he was because we had dated before and he had been a good friend helping me out around the house. My parents would have never allowed Jay to be there if they believed for one second I was having an affair with him on Jeff! That’s just absurd! As I mentioned on the reunion show, Jeff had meet Jay, and he knew Jay was up there with us for the day because I talked to him several times throughout the day. The film crew was there that weekend as well, shooting for the show, so why in heaven’s sake would I allow this guy to be on camera if I was having an affair? Isn’t that just plain stupid? For Tamra to act like she was “calling me out” on something during the reunion show about him being in Bass Lake is hilarious because she didn’t even know any of the details. She simply was looking for an excuse to not like me and act the way she did towards me. I have realized some people don’t have the most innocent of intentions and that has been a rough lesson to learn lately.
Story #4: Tamra would just love it if she could convince everyone that I was using Jeff this “poor sick man to get on T.V.” Tamra even said to me at one of our first lunch meetings that Simon seemed to think that Jeff being ill was a big advantage for me because then everyone would feel sorry for me and like me. I found that to be a strange statement. She knew her claims about Jay would help excuse her behavior as a person and possibly make people doubt me or not like me. Are you kidding me, how sick can they be? How can someone possibly say something so awful about a couple dealing with a deadly disease? And for the record again, I was approached to do the show, I didn’t audition like Tamra did through the internet by sending in a resume and picture to do the show. I had no intention of doing the show and certainly didn’t go looking for it. It was an opportunity that was brought to me, I originally was very hesitant to do the show but Jeff, who always liked an adventure, was actually the one that convinced me to do the show. So for her to say that I was using this poor man to get on a T.V. show is just ludicrous. Since Tamra never meet Jeff she could have never known any of the details about our relationship and the reasons we agreed to do the show. For her to just make assumptions based off a strange man’s phone calls to her in the middle of the night makes no sense at all. She herself said he was “trouble” and “wouldn’t stop calling”. Once again completely contradictory and another lame excuse to validate her behavior.
Story #5 Tamra states in her blog that “she was prepared to talk about Jay at the reunion show” yet in the weeks prior to the show she sends me texts saying she has no intention of talking about Jay because she didn’t want the drama and that is exactly what the audience wants”. Then at the most recent Virgin American event we went too she tells me (with Lynne as my witness) she was forced to talk about it. Why? I’ll address that in a minute, but the point is her story changes again. Then in her blog she states that Jay texted Simon just to stir things up on the day of the reunion, so if that was the case then why was she so surprised that I didn’t know what the hell she was talking about? Obviously I had no idea Jay was trying to stir things up because I believed Jay and I were friends and that he had my best interest at heart. I soon later realized that was not the case. Throughout the off season as Tamra and I talked she told me many times to be careful of Jay and that she believed he was trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. This is also when she told me about the continuous phone calls he made too them. So if she knew he was “trouble” and was only trying to get his 15 minutes of fame then why would him texting Simon affect her so much that she turned into such a mean bitch on set. I couldn’t quite understand it and that is why you see me asking her “why do you care so much about who is my friend or not, how does it affect you?” I just couldn’t understand the reasoning behind her ambush. Especially because I felt we had buried the hatchet on this issue many many times.
Well the very next morning I found out why she exploded like she did. It wasn’t about me at all, it was about the e-mail she received from her own husband Simon that day of the reunion show. I know she knows exactly what I am talking about here because I still have the e-mail saved and I responded to both Tamra and Simon to let them know I got CC’d on the e-mail. The most ironic part is that the e-mail came from her husband Simon because he was trying to save face with the cast about Tamra lying to all of us about the reason he showed up in Vegas earlier in the season. Get this, the title of that e-mail addressed to Tamra from Simon was “Your B.S. and Lies” Ironic huh? Her own husband is addressing Tamra as a liar. Classic. I will get to that e-mail in a second but on another note I want to express that what really sucks about this whole thing is I really don’t think this is anyone’s business and I never brought this up because I just don’t like to be this way, but unfortunately when someone goes so out of their way to try to defame your character, at some point you have to call them on their own sh.. and let the world know they are simply lying. I have let this go and go, tried to let it die, tried to not to add fuel to the fire, and take the punches and roll with them, but I am so done with this B.S.now! It’s so obvious that Tamra is out to hurt me and therefore I am forced to have to go here with all this because she continues to spin her lies to benefit her.
Simon writes this in the e-mail to his beloved wife and I quote; “So what did you say to Gretchen and Vicki at the pool? And maybe you should tell everyone the truth about Vegas and how you lied to me to get me to come up there. Or I will” The whole truth? I don’t need Jays text to prove what you told them lies about me the next day. Marriage is about being honest and loyal. Try it. I would have never done that to you. I don’t deserve it. Make it right.” End quote! Isn’t it funny how in every blog or piece of press Tamra claims she’s just “ Keeping it Real” or “The truth will set you free” Ha Ha Ha She tries so hard to convince the world she is always being truthful because every other word out of her mouth is a bullsh.. two faced lie.
As I put the pieces together in my mind I realized that the time of the e-mail sent by Simon was exactly when we were coming back from our lunch break during the reunion show, and wha-la,! I all of a sudden realized why Tamra flew off the handle with me that day. Jay texted something to Simon that made Simon realize that Tamra lied to all of us about why he came up to Vegas. By Simon sending Tamra that e-mail above, it sent a backlash of emotions that came pouring over onto me about how I am such a liar/victim, all the while her own husband is saying “marriage is about being honest and loyal, try it” Tamra was so mad she got busted because of some text from Jay to Simon. I had no clue that had transpired. Jay and I had corresponded by text that day in regards to how the day was going; he never told me he had sent a text over to Simon till later that night. Now I believe that was all a part of his plan, and getting his 15 minutes of fame and name on T.V.
I think the only thing Tamra and I agree on to this day is that Jay was looking to have his 15 minutes of fame no matter what avenue he took.
I have to say though, funny how she was calling me a liar on National Television, all the while her own husband was calling her a liar in an e-mail. Let’s see her now try to explain her way out of that one. I’m sure it will be someone else’s fault, or she will say I made this up, but the good news is that I CC’d everyone involved in this situation on this e-mail so she and Simon could never say that.
Story #6 Tamra having to show up in court! What a flipping joke this one is. For the record I didn’t just NOT show up for my own court case. I DROPPED the case the day before it was even heard in court. That was from advice of my attorney, as Jay told his own attorney he didn’t care if I got a restraining order against him, which lead me to believe all he wanted was a media circus and I was not about to allow my serious concerns to be made a mockery out of in the press. When I heard he was involving Tamra in the case I immediately texted her. The reason for the text was because I had just seen her two weeks prior at the Virgin America event. I once again believed her when she said she wanted to call a truce and she would no longer talk about me. She claimed she just wanted all this to be over.
In good faith I agreed, and was looking forward to being past all this, but once again her story changes. Tamra and I exchanged texts messages the day before court and she stated that she wasn’t happy and was very stressed about having to go into court. I understood and felt bad she had been drug into my situation by Jay once again and told her I was going to drop the case per my attorney’s advice. Jay had already violated the Temporary Restraining Order once and it became obvious a piece of paper was not going to protect me from what he was consistently doing. I not only texted her the night before but then again the morning confirming that the case had been withdrawn. Tamra knew the case had been taken off calendar because Jay’s attorney would have called all the people who Jay wanted to testify the night before to let them know. But low and behold guess who still shows up to court……Tamra. Then surprise surprise she talks to press and spins her lies again, claiming she found it very strange that I didn’t show up for this case, when she knew damn well the day before I was dropping the case and the reasons for it. Then Tamra goes on to say that it “shows my real character”, and all she wants to do is “tell the truth”. So where was the truth in any of that? I was like is she serious? She flat out lied again, says one thing to me and another to the press. The funniest part is she actually made me believe that she was concerned for me for a minute in our exchange of texts. I fell for her two-faced B.S. again. Oh and she was the only witness that showed up to court, all the other people Jay was calling to the stand didn’t show up. Something sounds fishy to me there.
Then she says to press, “That Jay was very apologetic” as if she is now buddies with the guy that she was trying to convince me was “trouble”. If you ask me this whole thing sounds strange. Maybe my initial intuition on the “lost episode” of questioning if I was being set up, wasn’t that far off after all. Who knows really, but then I have a flash back of the footage where Tamra is saying she was going to get me “naked wasted” and make me do something stupid. Makes a girl think.
Jay is not someone I choose to be around anymore or have in my life especially after the very sick and shallow things he has done to defame Jeff’s and my relationship. He is not someone I care to talk about but unfortunately I have been forced to discuss it because of the “lost episode” and Tamra’s lies. I made a poor choice to be-friend someone that obviously took advantage of my friendship by stealing from me, barrowing money he never paid back, and using my name to bring his into the limelight. I am not sorry I had that friendship because I have learned a lot from it, but I am sorry that he had to ruin it by telling lies and doing what he has done to me and the memories of Jeff.
On a personal note, as far as all the other footage on this “lost episode” it was so nice to see some of the happy moments that Jeff and I shared together and with the kids again. The footage was hard for me to see and so I am sure the kids will have a hard time seeing that footage as they no longer go to Dad’s house to have those bar-be-ques. Jeff always loved to hear the sound of all us together, it made him happy even in his darkest of days. Just laughing and giggling, and poking fun at each other. That really was a very fun day. We had no joke about 50 kids over to the house and we played all afternoon. Jeff was the “cool” dad and the kids loved to hang out at his house. I obviously got along well with all the kids and enjoyed my time with them every time we got to see them. I miss all our time together it has been a while since we all got together and had a good laugh. I talk to all of them still, but have only seen Jake thus far. I plan on visiting them this summer and spending some time with them. They are all very good kids and had the great influence of their Dad to turn into great kids with a lot to offer this world. I am very proud of them and the battle they have endured over losing their Dad at such a young age.
I am in a much better place now, no longer vulnerable to predators and people that want to take advantage of me. I have good people around me and I will get through this period with my head held high. As far as Tamra goes, it’s sad that she just can’t “own” what she continues to lie about, and just stop talking trash on me. I have never been able to figure out why she cares so much about my life and what I choose to do. She is no longer someone I care to be friends with and I have given that woman numerous opportunities to make amends and be sincere about it, but I guess a leopard never changes it’s spots. Thanks to all my loyal fans and friends during this difficult period. As Tamra said, the truth will set you free. Gosh I feel much better now, thanks for the advice Tamra

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i'll tune in but between tamra, vicki, and now slade coming back, i dont know if i can take it. those three i cant stand. oh and lynn and her spoiled ass daughter.

I can't stand Tamara with her phony ass I want her husband to leave her and Vicki gets on my nerves I want Don to wake up and divorce her disrespectful ass.

This season you will see Vicki once again trying to work on her marriage with Don. Jeana is right, Vicki does throw Don under the bus. I will never forget that scene where Vicki got on Gretchen for showing off her motorcycle. Then turned around and made sure everyone knew she brought her first Rolex and Don had nothing to do with it. She is jealousy x's 100

delete thread please

ill try to see what this stuff is all about tonight

I am going to have a field day talking about Tamra's marriage falling apart. She gets everything she deserves. Hopefully she won't get 50% you know how California law rolls

*patiently awaiting the fuckery*

OK.. I'm watching..

I didn't know Grechten's Suga Daddy died... RIP... Wow!