Ladies in Michael's Life III

I finally got a look at the making of the original 1985 We Are The World, which apparently just got posted recently and hasn't been widely viewed. I was startled to find clips of Michael I actually hadn't seen yet.

Since the remake is premiering tonight, I posted a new thread here about this documentary, 'We Are The World' 2010 Premieres Tonight: The Story Behind The 1985 Song.

I included the locations of the MJ clips, among others. MJMedia, if you haven't already, these deserve a place on your YouTube site.

A spot where he breaks into a happy dance while working in a pre-session with Stevie Wonder and Lionel Richie is priceless. A lovely clip has him leading the whole group in song.

And I have a rant about the critics singling Michael out as usual for their vicious bashing of his role in this. God forbid Michael's humanitarian efforts be acknowledged by the media.

Some awesome clips of Ray Charles, Stevie, and others... this thing made my day.

No Diana tea, unfortunately .

EDIT

I deleted the post. It was just attracting haters, doing more harm than good. Sorry. And I put a fucking lot of time into it... expecting that for such a serious cause people could temporarily set aside gripes against various individuals...

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what if he ran to you and ran away from you?


you really think you can always tell how someone feels based primarily on their actions.....because sometimes a persons actions are confusing. I can attest to that..... I'm that way.. Sometimes I want to be around you but other times I don't.. Not because I don't love the person but I don't like to be around the same people all the time or I need to get work done and that person is distracting.....And I can't stand clingy people...
Atleast not those who always want my attention. It annoys me...but then there are days when I love it.. To this day I have to explain myself to people and these are people I've known for years...

The phrase mixed signals didn't come about for no reason....

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Well...a friend had a boyfriend who did that for her all the time. He passed days without talk to her, forgot the dates...it was clear he didn´t love her. She knew it but she couldn´t leave him, she was obsessed over him.

Men aren´t the same, but a man who do that doesn´t have much feelings towards his partener.

I´m just talking by experience, of course.

I would have liked that Michael may have been a RELATIONSHIP WITH SHAKIRA ... HOOOT COMBINATION!!!..

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He told one for sure and I assume he told Diana and LMP....

That's not the same as Michael and lisa's situation.. Michael wasshowering Lisa with attention. He was spoiling her amd people could tell that they had feelings for eachother in the beginning but once they settled down into married life that's when it got difficult because they eah had to adjust to the others personalities... Michael spent his life on the road. He doesn't like to be in one place for a long period of time... He feels like he has to move plus he a workaholic.. He has to work all the time or else he probably feels deprived or useless... Obviously Lisa couldn't understand that and obviously Michael couldn't make her understand because she didn't grow up like he did... Her career was not the center of her like his was... It's not easy regardless of how much you love someone to change those aspects of yourself when they come as naturally to you as breathing... Michael wanted Lisa to basically be like mama Katherine... And we know how she is... Lisa wasn't going to be like that but that doesn't mean she didn't love him..

I don't think he loved her with an all consuming love but I do think he did love her at some point..... He just didn't love her enough to lose his desire for children...and to overlook her deception....

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Umm... where the hell is that hand going after leaving his mouth, Omphy?

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That would have been a performing match in heaven lol I don't know much about Shakira, but I think she's beautiful and love the way she dances. Those two could have killed the stage together.

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Michaela

Unless you know MJ personally. You can't say you know something. You may think you know who he was talking about but you don't know. But I do respect your right to speculate and to you post your speculation.

LOL

so true...

your voice on the phone will always sound different because it removes the really high and the really low frequencies
thats why you didnt hear any base in the phone convo's.

I love that song.
Do the right thing, love that movie.
spike lee is amazing.

I didnt know Saul williams received an MJ scholarship.
I love Saul Williams!

that's really sexy, lol
he knows what he's doing....

I think MJ wasn't the kinda of person to tell you he loves you to your face.(romantic love)
I think it has to do with the way he grew up.
His father never really showed much affection to his mom, I think.
MJ didnt even know how they met...
MJ married lisa in secret, didnt invite his family...so I dont think he was comfortable sharing his love in such a personal way.
idk.

I hate it too.
you can't seperate his life from his art, because his life inspired the art!


long ass post...and i didnt even say much, lol

At least after mid-1989 -it seems in the beginning 1990 he already had the condo...And certainly in june 90(when he collapsed)

"How Do You Feel?" By Karen Faye - The Michael Jackson Internet Fan Club MJIFC

"How Do You Feel?" By Karen Faye


Created: Sunday, 19 June 2005


That seems like the question that I am asked the most…. that, and the media begging for an interview or a sound bite. The answer to the second question is a radical “NO!”

There is absolutely no way I want to give the media one second of anything that belongs to Michael, just so they can get one more minute of ratings, a job advancement for themselves, or some more money in their greedy little paws, even if it is just me. I am not what they want. They just want another piece of Michael, and they are NOT getting it from me. I hold every moment we spent together sacred and personal. That belongs to us. My silence is the ultimate allegiance to my friend and hero.

The only one that has the authority and integrity to speak, at this time, is Thomas Messereau. He must speak in order to balance those scales of justice… remember that symbol?

I have been at “ground zero” throughout the entire year and a half. From the second day of production of ONE MORE CHANCE shooting in Las Vegas when my wake up call was interrupted by a news alert and helicopter shots of a raid on Neverland; the airplane ride to Santa Barbara where I witnessed Michael’s arms being twisted behind his back to slam shackles on his wrists. My heart has been in shackles until I heard the words NOT GUILTY repeated over and over again. Now how do I feel?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE!!!!! I saw my dear friend go slowly from a vibrant, creative, loving man to a frail, broken hearted, human being. He was repeatedly raped (emotionally and mentally robbed and destroyed by force and violence). Day in and day out, in the courtroom and in the media, he was abused and violated in the worst possible manner in front the entire world, and me.

How do I feel? I am glad that the jury finally came to the same conclusion we knew all along. And what was the purpose of torturing this beautiful human being not only by a few ignorant (lacking a sense of awareness) lawmen, but also by a media willing to participate in the crucifixion for greed? I am ENRAGED!

I am trying to find the peace in my heart to forgive. Rage is a useless and horrible emotion to carry. Over this past week I have tried to cry it out. I went to the Neverland Gates on vindication day and tried to “hug” it out with all of my friends who marched beside Michael on this journey. I am still working on it.

Michael shared so much with me every day, and I still can not even conceive of how his body and heart is feeling now. All I do know is that Michael needs to recover (reclaim, recuperate) from this most heinous act that anyone could have put him through.

I know he needs to find peace. He did share with me his desire to be ALONE with his children… for him NOT to speak or see any one for a long time. I know he said this to also include me, not in any selfish or greedy manner, but for his own survival. I will respect this completely. But also in the same breath, he shared his love and gratitude for all of his friends that stood by his side.

I know we have so many feelings deep within us that need to be expressed. Many of us feel elated and want to party, some want to bow their heads in prayer and give thanks, and I have my rage to work through. Whatever we may be experiencing, let us please be respectful of Michael’s healing process and give him the time he needs to be able to regain his spirit to the fullest.

I have confidence that the artist, the God energy that dwells in Michael, will not be able to remain still. I am sure the music is still dancing in his mind. I am excited to know how his experiences will translate into his art.

Please, all of his friends, be patient and let us learn, and put the negative behind us quickly.


Let us turn this page with all the knowledge that we have gained. Let us leave Michael in peace. He KNOWS we are here… and waiting for him.

Lets keep dancing.

Karen Faye


Then things went sour:

She sent an email to a fan:

NEW Email From Karen Faye Regarding MJJSOURCE - MJEOL FORUMS

Yes Carla, I know all about it. We have been patiently waiting Raymone Bain to make a statement about it for more than a week. MJJsource is down because we have had no cooperation with Michael and his present team. Without their complete support, we can not continue with the site. Please refer any questions to ??????????@aol.com, she is Michael's official spokesperson. I understand all the anger with the fans, but we have done everything in our power to live up to all the promises Michael has made. If he does not fulfill his promises...there is nothing we can do. We were Michael's voice, but if he doesn't wish to speak or pay the bills for MJJsource, there is nothing we can do. I personally am very hurt and sad about it, because we have worked very hard to do this for the
fans. I do not want to stop talking to my friends....so you can find me here.

love,
Karen


http://www.mjjboard.com/king-pop-new...st-lawn-4.html


In 2005, Karen together with two other people created a Michael Jackson fansite without his knowledge. She charged fans $49 monthly for membership. Many fans joined - not much happened with the site. Michael had the site shut down, fired everyone (including Karen) and the fans never got their refunds. Karen then went onto another MJ forum blaming Michael for the lack of goodies the site was suppose to have as well as blaming him for not signing autographs and ect. At that time she was posting as "turkle".

The site lacked because it was not endorsed by Michael. He had no idea it existed til someone informed him. That's when the sh*t hit the fan. And that's pretty much the cliffnotes version of what happened. AEG then hired Karen in 2009 to be Michael's make-up person. Michael accepted. They weren't "buddies" by no means. This is buisness. He needed a good make-up artist and Karen is one. End of story.

As for "more friends" in her facebook, she needs all the friends she can get in order to buy her book on Michael when it's released.

The only true friend Michael had besides his kids was Liz Taylor and that's that.

I think, YOU RIGHT!

My take on her repeating over and over and over again that she is not sure what his intentions were/I am not sure he can really love/I don't know if he really loved me were a cry for him to come forward and say that he did in fact love her. I really think she was trying to get a reaction out of him. However, at the same time I think there may be some truth to what she is saying. MJ cared about his legacy more than anything. That came first over anything. I can see why she would feel like she was not important to him, especially when you consider the timing of the marriage. He was working on the HIStory album and preparing for a tour. Add in all the media uproar that he liked to create (don't try to deny it, you all know he did) and you have a recipe for Lisa getting shelved unless it fit into his plans. Then you have the sewage interview where he comes out in public and says that he is not converting to scientology. Can you imagine the pressure that created for LMP to get him on board or get out of the marriage? So now you have MJ focused on a release of an album, preparing for a tour, wanting children NOW, LMP being pressured by her cult as well as being a needy princess, and then to top is off DR offering up her womb. I could see why she would think that he did not love her. Seriously, MJ dismissed all of the requests that she had in the marriage. Does that mean that he did not love her - NO. It means that he was set in his ways by the time he married her and if she was not on board with fullfilling his legacy dreams, then she could as she would say...eat it. I think people underestimate MJ's stubborn side and getting what he wanted when he wanted it. That combination does not work well for a relationship or to the point that LMP could feel that he did not love her. I think that everyone fails to realize that this was a man with a plan for immortality through his musical legacy. I think she was part of that plan and therefore he was willing to open himself up to her more than he would anyone else. I am sure that in the begining he made sure that he got what he wanted and that was her. We all know that when MJ is focused on something, that mediocrity is not an option. He probably had her so wrapped up (forcematized) in him by the time that they married that she could not tell which way was up. But, then bam.....MJ has what he wants and it is time to focus on new album...LMP goes to the back burner. LMP is okay at first as she is still getting the force regularly in baby making attempts. But then, he gets really focused on new album, she starts getting needy, and she does not get pregnant right away. MJ starts to get impatient, LMP starts to get bitter, enter DR........We all know how it ends. LMP thinks that he never really loved her because how could he love her and take DR up on her offer rather than give into the cult and deal through their issues....

After all of that rambling -

I really believe that he was really happy and in love with her until the dream of them having children together went to hell in a hand basket.



Teasing the paparazzi my #ss....this was her way of giving the finger to DR and MJ's way of saying - She's Outta Here My $SS....yeah, that's right, I am still having my way with Elvis's precious daughter!

Wow! I am so on the same page with you today Attagirl!! I wish I would have went back and caught up before I posted. You summarized what I was thinking so much better!