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Trayvon Martin Girlfriend Told Several Lies Under Oath

Originally Posted by Love Tenise I didn't know Zimmerman had stans on LSA. I'm not a stan. I just feel like this story is never fair and balance. Black people


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I didn't know Zimmerman had stans on LSA.
I'm not a stan. I just feel like this story is never fair and balance. Black people don't want justice they want a witch hunt.

There is a lack of evidence to convict George with Second Degree. The DA's office seemed to only chase this after they were put on the hot seat.

I do believe that Trayvon contributed to the fight he and George had. George should have been charged with a misdemeanor and fined.


 
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Is it a crime for a 16 year old to date an 18 year old in that state? Its a reasonable age gap for teenagers in my opinion.
No, we have a "Romeo & Juliet" law. It is legal for a person up to 23 to have consensual sex someone 16 and up.

She really had no reason to lie, unless she was ignorant of the law and thought she'd be labelled a sex offender
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Old Re: Trayvon Martin Girlfriend Told Several Lies Under Oath
What does her whereabouts during his funeral have to do with his murder though? Absolutely nothing. They're just hoping she'll accidentally "spill" some beans. She better stop lying about petty things or this could take a turn for the worst..


 
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They are deflecting. Her "lies" have nothing to do with the murder! So she lied about where she was during the funeral. There would not BE a funeral if he wasn't murdered! They are REACHING. They need to explain Zimmerman's wife's perjury.


 
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I do believe that Trayvon contributed to the fight he and George had. George should have been charged with a misdemeanor and fined.
Please. If someone is following you with a weapon, you grow up being taught to fight back when attacked. Zimmerman went against dispatcher orders and followed the kid with a loaded gun. If they indeed fought, Trayvon was the one acting in self defense, not Zimmerman. Zimmerman went after the teenager. Why is that so hard for you to understand? The problem is American culture has been conditioned NEVER to see a black male as a victim.


 
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I'm not a stan. I just feel like this story is never fair and balance. Black people don't want justice they want a witch hunt.

There is a lack of evidence to convict George with Second Degree. The DA's office seemed to only chase this after they were put on the hot seat.

I do believe that Trayvon contributed to the fight he and George had. George should have been charged with a misdemeanor and fined.
But it's not a fair fight if one has a gun and one doesn't. You don't get a fine for murdering someone.


 
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Florida juries are notoriously stupid, they let Casey Anthony off.
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But it's not a fair fight if one has a gun and one doesn't.
That's a chance Trayvon took when he decided to engage in a physical altercation, with Zimmerman (who was license to carry a firearm). I'm not buying the innocent black kid propaganda. This is the same young man who boast about violence, drugs, and disobedience to authority. So please stop with the Trayvon was" holier than thou", scared for his life bull. Trayvon was just as confrontational as George, the two together was a bad combo.


 
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That's a chance Trayvon took when he decided to engage in a physical altercation, with Zimmerman (who was license to carry a firearm). I'm not buying the innocent black kid propaganda. This is the same young man who boast about violence, drugs, and disobedience to authority. So please stop with the Trayvon was" holier than thou", scared for his life bull. Trayvon was just as confrontational as George, the two together was a bad combo.
Give me some sort of clue, even a mild hint, that it was Trayvon, the kid walking in the rain with junk food, who engaged Zimmerman, the man following him while armed with a gun believing him to be a threatening "asshole" on drugs. Something. Anything. I'll wait.

No one ever said Trayvon was an innocent black kid. No one. This is something idiot racists whined about cus they're not satisfied with the media choosing not to portray him as the violent stereotype they want him to be by using inappropriate and out of context private facebook pictures. No, the media doesnt have an agenda of making Trayvin out to be innocent, its idiot racists like you have an agenda to make Trayvon out to be some racist stereotype to justify his death.

Wow, a teenage boy who goes on the internet and puts on a persona in which he glorifies violence, drugs, and disregard of authority. How unusual. Conclusive evidence Martin was a real ruthless thug. Surely this is not the normal behavior of teenagers on the internet. What a wreckless misfit. Good thing he's dead now thanks to ZimmerMAN! Defender of truth, justice, and the American way!

Again, no one says Martin was "holier than thou." We say that he wrongly profiled, followed, pursued, confronted, and killed for no reason. We say that the person clearly responsible for his death deserves to do time for his fatal actions in a situation he pursued and couldve been avoided. We say that the way his actions were covered up by a police department with a history of racial bias, and defended by a flawed gun law which doesnt even apply to his situation is undeniable injustice and should be condemned.

The only people with a pitiful houlier than thou attitude are Zimmerbitch supporters like you who believe we should all feel sorry for this fat ass running around with a deadly weapon and harassing people minding their own business at night. As if he was some angel defending his precious life from this black monster who attacked him for no reason with skittles and tea. Im sorry but is this what you dumbasses believe?

No Trayvon was not as confrontational as Zimmerman. Do you try to sound like an idiot or does it come naturally? Trayvon was trying to get home, out of the rain, with skittles and juice in his pocket, just in time to watch the All Star games with his family. He wasnt out to "confront" or fight no one. Zimmerman on the other hand was out following someone, making 911 calls, and of course cocking his gun and pursuing a stranger on foot determined to not let the asshole get away this time. Can I ask which one sounds like the real thug to you?


 
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Give me some sort of clue, even a mild hint, that it was Trayvon, the kid walking in the rain with junk food, who engaged Zimmerman.
What parents send their kid to the store at NIGHT for skittles and don't report their child missing for THREE DAMN DAYS!!!! Goes to show they let this kid do whatever he wanted. They were use to not knowing where he was or what he was doing. SMH

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That's a chance Trayvon took when he decided to engage in a physical altercation, with Zimmerman (who was license to carry a firearm). I'm not buying the innocent black kid propaganda. This is the same young man who boast about violence, drugs, and disobedience to authority. So please stop with the Trayvon was" holier than thou", scared for his life bull. Trayvon was just as confrontational as George, the two together was a bad combo.



How are you so sure that Trayvon started the physical altercation? Yes he probably engaged in a physical altercation because he was standing his ground. More than likely, Trayvon was physically attacked by Zimmerman, who was fueled by racism and rage because in his own words, "they always get away". He felt confident because he had a concealed gun, and wanted to flaunt his "pseudo authority" by confronting an innocent, unarmed person.

Although Zimmerman's friends and family claimed that Trayvon followed and attacked him, forensic investigation will indicate the distance from where Trayvon's body was found, and the distance of Zimmerman's car, since it was ascertained that Trayvon was only several feet away from his father's apartment when he was murdered. Clearly, Zimmerman kept pursuing Trayvon.

The propaganda that Zimmerman's friends and family want to spin is that he followed directives not to follow Trayvon. They want us to believe that as he returned to his car, an unarmed kid suddenly became the aggressor. Zimmerman was a bully (with a gun) who had mental issues, who undoubtedly used family connections to get a gun. He disobeyed authority by taking the matter into his own hands. He was known as a hothead who had a physical altercation with a police officer at one time. He was disqualified from the police academy because of psychological issues. I believe Trayvon was afraid when he encountered this nut.

And what if Trayvon was confrontational? It is not inconceivable for someone to confront (your word) and to at least inquire as to why you are being stalked by a crazed, deluded, angry individual, especially when you are minding your own business. Your use of the word "confrontational " is really telling.

Racists hate when an intelligent, articulate black person speak up for themselves by challenging questionable behavior, and not be intimidated by foolishness. What is so troubling is when rational folks become blinded by racism, and lose their ability to conceptualize, comprehend and show any semblance of humanity when blacks become the victim of a crime.

How does a kid who is minding his own business suddenly become the aggressor? Zimmerman had the incentive to initiate a physical altercation, since he was a bully with illusions of grandeur. He became enraged and humiliated and decided to kill Trayvon, since he had the upperhand, a licensed gun. He didn't think he would be charged because of family connection.

The prosecutor is able to get the taped conversation from the phone records to prove what Trayvon and the young lady discussed as he was being stalked by this murderer.

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Give me some sort of clue, even a mild hint, that it was Trayvon, the kid walking in the rain with junk food, who engaged Zimmerman, the man following him while armed with a gun believing him to be a threatening "asshole" on drugs. Something. Anything. I'll wait.
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Trayvon was trying to get home, out of the rain, with skittles and juice in his pocket, just in time to watch the All Star games with his family.
We've all heard that story, that TM was in a hurry to get home to watch the NBA All-Star game, and perhaps it's true. The "clue" that TM engaged GZ would be that, if TM really was in such a hurry to get home, why didn't he make it? Two minutes transpire from the time GZ says to the dispatcher, "Shit, he's running", to the time the call with dispatch ends. It's clear that there was no confrontation in that time frame. So, just at that point, TM had already had 2 minutes to run the rest of the way home (which was supposedly his destination that he was in a hurry to get to). The "rest of the way home" shouldn't have taken him even 30 seconds to traverse. So at the time the call ends, TM has already had 4 times the amount of time needed to get home, if that really was where he intended to go. Now factor in the 2 minutes and 30 seconds AFTER that point until the first 911 call came in. Unless the confrontation/altercation happened the instant GZ got off the phone, there is even more time there that TM could have used to get home, but, again, that didn't happen. I'll remind you that this kid is supposedly very scared of this unknown man following him, some will argue that he was scared enough to "Stand His Ground" and take GZ's following him as a threat to his life. So, he's THAT frightened, and has more than enough time to get to the safety of his home, yet he doesn't. Perhaps he wasn't as frightened as many people assume.
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No Trayvon was not as confrontational as Zimmerman. Do you try to sound like an idiot or does it come naturally? Trayvon was trying to get home, out of the rain, with skittles and juice in his pocket, just in time to watch the All Star games with his family. He wasnt out to "confront" or fight no one. Zimmerman on the other hand was out following someone, making 911 calls, and of course cocking his gun and pursuing a stranger on foot determined to not let the asshole get away this time. Can I ask which one sounds like the real thug to you?
At the time GZ is relaying to the dispatcher that TM was approaching his truck, GZ was just as prepared for a confrontation, if not moreso (having his gun on him, but also being inside his truck), than the point of the actual confrontation. At the time TM was as close to GZ as GZ knew TM would ever be that night, GZ didn't so much as roll down his window to verbally confront him. I'd say it's pretty clear that had GZ desired a confrontation, he had the perfect opportunity to confront TM when he was just outside his door/window, yet he chooses not to. Maybe because GZ never wanted a confrontation to begin with?

And just to clear at least one thing up, GZ didn't call 911, he called the non-emergency number (NEN) that the Sanford PD provided to him, and told him to call when he noticed anything/anyone he viewed as suspicious in his neighborhood that had a recent history of burglaries/thefts/etc. He did what he was told to do in that regard.

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How are you so sure that Trayvon started the physical altercation? Yes he probably engaged in a physical altercation because he was standing his ground. More than likely, Trayvon was physically attacked by Zimmerman, who was fueled by racism and rage because in his own words, "they always get away".
How are you so sure he wasn't? Are you aware that TM had ZERO defensive injuries? So unless TM was some sorta ninja, and deftly evaded all of GZ's attacks, why didn't TM have so much as a scratch on him? Was TM an experienced fighter or wasn't he? Oh, and just to correct myself, TM did have a scratch, or an "abrasion" on him; it was on his left hand ring finger, right below the knuckle, the kind of abrasion you'd get if you hit someone with your fist in the wrong spot. There's zero physical evidence that GZ ever tried to lay a finger on TM.
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He felt confident because he had a concealed gun, and wanted to flaunt his "pseudo authority" by confronting an innocent, unarmed person.
And you know this, how? GZ had a perfect opportunity to confront TM, if that's what he wanted to happen, when TM approached GZ in his vehicle, but GZ didn't do that. Why didn't he? Couldn't have possibly been because GZ didn't actually want a confrontation, could it?
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Although Zimmerman's friends and family claimed that Trayvon followed and attacked him, forensic investigation will indicate the distance from where Trayvon's body was found, and the distance of Zimmerman's car, since it was ascertained that Trayvon was only several feet away from his father's apartment when he was murdered. Clearly, Zimmerman kept pursuing Trayvon.

TM was approximately 70 yards (210 feet) away from Brandy Green's townhouse (where he and his father were staying), and 35 yards (105 feet) away from GZ's truck. Clearly, TM was much more than "several feet" from where he was staying.
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And what if Trayvon was confrontational? It is not inconceivable for someone to confront (your word) and to at least inquire as to why you are being stalked by a crazed, deluded, angry individual, especially when you are minding your own business. Your use of the word "confrontational " is really telling.

There would have be nothing wrong with TM confronting GZ to try to find out why he was following him. There's nothing illegal about "confronting" anyone with a question. The point where it became a "problem", and became illegal, is when one of them became violent. GZ had all the injuries, TM had none. You connect the dots.
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How does a kid who is minding his own business suddenly become the aggressor?
How do kids do any of the stupid things they do, or make any of the stupid choices they make? Are we, as adults, supposed to pretend that kids are no longer kids, capable of stupid decisions?
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He didn't think he would be charged because of family connection.
His father had been retired for 5+ years as a magistrate in Virginia. There were no connections to the Sanford PD.
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The prosecutor is able to get the taped conversation from the phone records to prove what Trayvon and the young lady discussed as he was being stalked by this murderer.

I wish you were correct here, but that was a conversation between two personal cell phone numbers. Nothing was recorded.

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So she just gave Zimmerman his walking papers??

Why even lie about BS like that?
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