Vanessa Long speaks out & explains why she stayed!!!

Wait...she thinks SHE failed the people, She made the bad decisions and SHE felt condemned and is in need of forgiveness??? Her husband is a hypocrite, lies, cheats, and molests young boys turning them "out" and she is the one who was wrong because she left him???? Who counseled her? I need to know because I do not want to end up under their counsel by accident??? SMH...she seems like a "stepford wife"...smh!

Man, he sure did a number on her head...

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I guarantee it was the so-called elders of the church. I had a friend whom they brainwashed. She and her hubby went for counseling and they had her feeling like everything was her fault (he cheated, he stole, he lied and he ruined her credit and ended up causing her to owe the IRS 50K). To this day, EL is still her pastor. SMH.

I know of at least three situations here in Austin, TX where the man is a pedophile and the female stayed with him, [2 are not Christians]:

1-Boyfriend molests granddaughters and goes to jail. When he gets out, she marries him stating he repented, [she is a Christian]...smh!

2-Grandmother's live-in boyfriend is her cousin and is on the pedophile webpage, [she states he didn't do it]. Now he molests her grandchildren. Quite possibly molested her children but I am unsure of this info.

3-Mother's boyfriend molested her daughters and she did nothing even after one of them told her. Went on to molest her grandchildren.

I reported the second situation however CPS did nothing but made him sign a document stating he would stay away from the children...smh!

I thought maybe this was just going on here, women who "stand by their man" knowing he is a child molester, however I see it is wide spread.

I am desperate for a man or money to stand by and allow this to happen!

Sis. Long can justify, take blame and excuse all she likes but one thing she can't do is counsel me on anything! I am not surprised though because I cannot believe that this went on all that time and she didn't have any idea what was going on.

Also, the "church" has been counseling women to tolerate the abuses of men under the guise of "submission" for decades so what is new? When she left I thought "good for her" thinking she would make a stand however I knew she would come back because she was double minded and yes, I think it had to do with the money and lifestyle she has grown accustom to living.

She, and Eddie Long will give an account to the Lord for their actions and the people they have led and are leading astray. They should enjoy their "prosperity" now because hell is for eternity. Sad shame...

I don't feel sorry for the members either because there is no way I would continue under that leadership. They will not be able to stand before the Lord and say "I was deceived" because they had their Bibles and if they would read them, they would be delivered.

If Jesus was first in their heart and minds they would not follow a wolf in sheep's clothing...Jeremiah 5: 30-31, Romans 1: 25-32, esp. 27 and 32.

All of this is a "hot mess" however there is a God, not cannot be bought, manipulated, or intimidated.

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I don't get this...the Lord gave me common sense and no one can make me take blame when I did nothing wrong, especially while excusing the one who did.

Many years ago I married a man at Bishop Blake's church, in fact Bishop Blake married us. Several months into the marriage I found out he was on the DL, [also in position to join the many elders in the church who I found out at the same time were also on the DL with wives as a front].

I went to the elders because I wanted a divorce and one told me they would give him some "directives". I was shocked and said "who was going to come live with us to endure that he followed them"? I also said he didn't need "directives", he needed DELIVERANCE! I left him, that church and everyone else in the mess. I got a divorce so fast it even surprised me!

God was with me and I was so glad he never had opportunity to be alone with my children because I would have a prison ministry to this day!!!

No one can use scripture to imprison me to the abuse of anyone...and if I will fight my flesh to keep from going to hell from the pew, I most certainly will not follow someone else there...smh!

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I don't get it either. And she has the nerve to question me every so often to see if I go to church - lol. She is a very smart woman with a successful career, makes good money and is a very caring person. I just have no idea. I broke it down for her but she cannot see and after that she refused to see. I just pray for her. If only she had 1/10 of your strength and clarity.

It must be some deep seated need to belong somewhere and be abused.

Riva Tims said the same thing in her book "When It All Falls Apart". When Zachery Tims' affairs became public they began marriage counseling. It didn't take her long to realize that restoring the marriage was not a priority. Getting Zachery Tims back in the pulpit was the priority. She was told to suck it up, put on a happy face for the people and deal with her pain as quietly as possible. SMH...

Correction above...

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Money talks...

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I watched this movie on Netflix last night entitled "Red Hook Summer" and I feel sick in my soul.

Any man that would molest a child, any man that would use his position of trust to sex the women in his church, any man that would use his position and title to defile another person's soul should NOT be in a pulpit anywhere in this world.

He has left that child with some severe damage and that child will need counseling for a very long time in order to get over this trauma. Also, at times, these children, [as children],end up sexing other children because of what was done to them and if they are not counseled and healed, they will grow up to be a molester as well. He has started a terrible cycle in a child's life...smh!

Yes, IF he sincerely repents the Lord will forgive him and I would even forgive him however I would not allow that person to be around my child, grandchild or any other child again. He has blown the trust imparted to him and the risk of allowing him to prove himself again is too great and a chance I wouldn't want to take.

Other sins can be forgiven to the degree of allowing him to minister again after a time, however in my book, this one blows his ministry right out the water because it depletes his credibility.

He could still be a church member, however he would not be allowed a position of trust over people and/or of leadership. He could minister with a team [only] as a layperson in order to fulfill his calling however I certainly would not cover for him as though it never happen.

I must say this is just my opinion and how I feel about it.

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If you are a Christian, you believe God is always there - it is just whether or not we choose to follow him or follow our own desires. I can't speak for Truth but only guess that she loved her husband and family but when she REALIZED he was gay and the elders of the church supported this man, God opened her eyes and helped her get away.

There is no need to attack her.

AMEN!!! ...200%

I missed this before however I will be tuning into her broadcast...blessing s!

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*yawn* you stay you choose to deal with whatever that comes... yes marriage is for better or worse so be grown and just be adult about your decision to stay.. You like your life! so what; don't justify it now. God looks at the heart (remember) who cares why you stay... only you knows why you do. Screw what folks think... If you can handle it, stay. No need to justify your union..... and then blaim God or the Devil for it... Folks really need to stop doing this cause you make outside forces look bad. God is great despite how He is represented and we give the Devil way too much power all at the same time.....

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