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Why Latinos Have NEVER Been Discriminated Against As Bad As Blacks...

Arnaz and Ball were actually married to one another which is one reason why few back in the 50s was 'offended'. They toured relentlessly, working their routine to mostly white


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Arnaz and Ball were actually married to one another which is one reason why few back in the 50s was 'offended'. They toured relentlessly, working their routine to mostly white audiences before the show was made because of fears of mixed race objections. Seriously you have to give up on using Arnaz to make your bigoted point.

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I actually asked some Hispanic friends parents how things were for them back in the 50's, 60's, etc. One of my friend's whose mother grew up in the 50's actually told me that they faced discrimination but it wasn't to the level faced by blacks. For example, they didn't have seperate schools, they were allowed to go to the same schools as whites, sit where they wanted on the bus if they rode the bus, etc. That right there let's me know, they had it better than my people. Did they suffer discrimination? Yes, but there's no way that it compared to what blacks went through.
Wow. I didn't know all that.

I don't even get why they are bitching and complaining now? They get free healthcare, free food, they're not forced to learn English since Americans are now expected to start speaking Spanish to accommodate them. They have it better than anyone else...
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How come you people won't answer the other question posed? How come Latinos want us to help them fight, but weren't willing to help us fight? Can't find an answer that would spare their feelings huh?
I don't think the OP is saying Latinos haven't been discriminated against. Everyone should know that they have. That isn't the question she posed. I understand EXACTLY what she is talking about. I've been involved in civil rights a looong time, since the 70's and my parents from the 50's through the 60's. While I have witnessed some productive "black/brown" alliances, I have also seen many Latinos want to be a "minority" when it is convenient for them, and be "white" when it is convenient for them. Even to this day, I don't see Latino-based organizations reaching out to black folks the way I have seen the NAACP reach out to Latinos. So, having been around a long time, I understand the OP's point and where she is coming from.


 
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Arnaz and Ball were actually married to one another which is one reason why few back in the 50s was 'offended'. They toured relentlessly, working their routine to mostly white audiences before the show was made because of fears of mixed race objections. Seriously you have to give up on using Arnaz to make your bigoted point.

You can't possibly know what someone else experiences unless you are that person.

But blacks and whites weren't even ALLOWED to get married to each other in the first place. Mildred and Richard loving, a black woman and a white man (can't imagine how bad they would've lynched and burned him had he been black man marrying a white woman).... were arrested for getting married.

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Nat King Cole wasn't flukking and impregnating a white woman on television though...
Have you lost your senses Desi WAS WHITE CUBAN. He was not a BLACK Cuban.
His people were White European Spanish from Spain who settled in Cuba.
White folks in 1950+ were not going to be sensible about a Mixed Black Cuban on their TV screen sleeping with a red head. It seems you are bent on his nationality that's fine. His race is white..... Find me a black Spanish man in his same situation perhaps then the comparisons would be fair.
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A lot of Hispanics can pass as white, that's why. I think there are more white Hispanics than Afro-Latinos. Black people can't do that. There are some that "pass", but a majority of blacks simply can't.
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And Rita never mentioned her Mexican heritage... if it came up at all she would say she was mixed with European Spanish rather than Mexican.

Not that it would've made much of a difference since people didn't hate Mexicans like they hated blacks.
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Latinos didn't help US fight because who in their proper mind would want the white man to start burning down their schools and churches. It really is that simple. White Latinos here in America have assimilated well.
So you don't want to help, but want to reap all the benefits?

Affirmative Action wasn't only for blacks...

it makes me sick to my stomach to think how they're benefiting off the backs of my people. Especially when these Mexican gangbangers come over here murdering blacks...
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The whole learn to speak english to get certain jobs,bothers my fucking soul.

Seriously I work with a man that's over 60 and he can barely speak two words in english.

I don't care how hard the english language is,it's a matter of respect and culture.I have to learn your culture but you can barely relate to mine?

It's straight bullshit.

Some spanish people even look down upon our culture.But I should speak spanish...smh.Hell no they don't get the treatment we've received and still recieve.And don't let them have white skin....Whites look at them like they're exotic and shit.A little spice in their accent.

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Also, Raquel Welch.
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But blacks and whites weren't even ALLOWED to get married to each other in the first place. Mildred and Richard loving, a black woman and a white man (can't imagine how bad they would've lynched and burned him had he been black man marrying a white woman).... were arrested for getting married.

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The whole learn to speak english to get certain jobs,bothers my fucking soul.

Seriously I work with a man that's over 60 and he can barely speak two words in english.

I don't care how hard the english language is,it's a matter of respect and culture.I have to learn your culture but you can barely relate to mine?

It's straight bullshit.

Some spanish people even look down upon our culture.But I should speak spanish...smh.Hell no they don't get the treatment we've received and still recieve.And don't let them have white skin....Whites look at them like they're exotic and shit.A little spice in their accent.

Craziness.

It also bothers me that jobs are requiring Americans to speak Spanish. I was looking the other day for a certain position in the medical field just to scope out salaries and such... and I came across few that said fluent Spanish was required. WTF?

Why should 300 Million Americans be forced to learn another language for the sake of accommodating 50 Million Hispanics... most of which shouldn't even legally be here in the first place.
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The whole learn to speak english to get certain jobs,bothers my fucking soul.

Seriously I work with a man that's over 60 and he can barely speak two words in english.

I don't care how hard the english language is,it's a matter of respect and culture.I have to learn your culture but you can barely relate to mine?

It's straight bullshit.

Some spanish people even look down upon our culture.But I should speak spanish...smh.Hell no they don't get the treatment we've received and still recieve.And don't let them have white skin....Whites look at them like they're exotic and shit.A little spice in their accent.

Craziness.
I have run into more store clerks lately, most recently at Sally's Beauty Supply, who have told me that Hispanics have been coming into the store requesting clerks who speak Spanish, and then have the nerve to get upset when one is not available.

We are not helping them learn the language at all because we are accommodating them. We're all familiar with the old "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish." And I was at the customer service desk the other day in Home Depot, and they had a whole list of associates posted who spoke Spanish that Spanish-speaking customers could request. Any other country you're in, you learn the language damn it!


 
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Old Re: Why Latinos Have NEVER Been Discriminated Against As Bad As Blacks...
ricki ricardo and lucille ball definitely did face bigotry and outrage in their day, the thing is american society's unspoken rule that many abide to subconsciously is that "white is right".
ricki was a white cuban who had spaniard ancestors.
spaniards are from spain=white
black folks are from africa=black
if ricki was celia cruz's complexion for instance, i love lucy definitely would not have been picked up on television and their marriage would be forbidden in most if not all states at the time.
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