I am not here to verify or confirm what FC has written. Everyone must draw there own conclusions, should they read the book. RT @harthrown: @wingheart once again thank you for answing me So you think that what Frank says about this "Emily" is true? If it is I´m impressed he could keep it away from all people working at the ranch, very impressive and for a whole year also. And I thought his relationship with LMP and Brooke were longer than 1 year, guess that is wrong then. An last, did he really get intimate with his fans? I thought he said he would never be with a fan.Maybe he lied then.
Around this time, Michael had another friend - I'll call her Emily - who visited the ranch regularly. She was a nice, cute girl, slender, with brown hair, in her early to midthirties. Emily didn't want or need anything from Michael. They just liked spending time together - talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn't tell anyone about Emily but me. Michael kept her a secret - she didn't stay in his room because he didn't want her to be seen coming out in the morning - and even I didn't see real evidence of the romance. That's how I knew he was telling the truth. He wouldn't have been so secretive if he hadn't had something to hide. That was the longest relationship I saw Michael have: Emily was at the ranch frequently over the course of about a year.
“He was a bachelor and wanted to get married. All he ever wanted to do was have a home of his own, get married, and have children. A wife to come home to. He tried,” says Gloria Rhodes Berlin, a neighbor to the Jackson family at the time of the sale.
Berlin had become friendly with Katherine Jackson and first met Michael at age twelve. She had been living in Encino for ten years when the Jackson family arrived from Gary, Indiana. Her book shares several sweet, little anecdotes that we have yet to hear elsewhere; and there is no doubt that the author is someone who genuinely cared for the entertainer.
“Michael Jackson and I had a very wonderful relationship… I always thought he was going to wind up being a box-boy at Gelson’s because he had a crush on a very beautiful young lady who was about 4 ˝ feet tall who was working there. [She had] very white porcelain skin with big blue eyes; real red-haired, that she wore in little pigtails and he used to come over and act as a box boy for her; pack the groceries for the people who came through her aisle. I always came through there and he would say, ‘Hello Mrs. Berlin’. My son, Will, used to play with the Jackson Five, basketball, at their home.”
“I think they hired him (laughs). He … would come [to the market] dressed up as The Wiz; wearing these shoes that were like on stilts…He came to see that pig-tailed, red-head girl….He loved her. He knew everyone that came to Gelson’s.”
Prior to becoming his real estate agent, Berlin had contacted Jackson on another matter.
“I wrote him a letter about a family that was losing their home. The man was 87-years-old, Black and married to a White woman. They had three children, young teens. The father had heart disease…and died finally and there was no burial money. Michael Jackson paid for the burial of that man he didn’t even know.”
This exchange opened the door for Jackson, who had worked unsuccessfully with other realtors, to seek Berlin’s assistance in finding his dream home.
Michael’s frame of mind during this time, according to Berlin, was to become independent of his parents – and for them to become independent of him. He wanted to be alone, away from prying eyes, street traffic and noise. He wanted a place where he could look out the window and see bluebirds, do his own farming and feed his animals. He specified the place had to be accessible to deer, so they could prune his trees.
A former actor who once shared the same theatrical agent as Elizabeth Taylor, dated Frank Sinatra for two-and-a-half years, and had roles in movies like “Guys and Dolls,” “Gentlemen Prefer Blondes,” and “There’s No Business Like Show Business,” Berlin lists some of her fondest Michael Jackson memories:
* When he played ‘I Just Can’t Stop Loving You’ on the Boesendorfer grand piano in the living room of the main house
* When he ran along the top of a wooden fence on the Neverland property as if it were a balance beam
* Developed new dance steps on the stones in the middle of a stream
* Planted flowers in the flowerbeds around the main house at Neverland using different color schemes for each season of the year
* Slid down the banister and hid in the secret room inside the mansion
* Played “Ghost” using a Casper ghost costume in the playroom with moving walls
* Held my hand and walked with me throughout the entire ranch
Jackson had actually been on the ranch before.
“Paul McCartney had been a guest of Bill Bones,” said Berlin of the man who had originally developed and lived on the ranch with his family. “Then, without authorization, [McCartney] decided to start shooting video and invited Michael Jackson to come there and be in the video. And Michael Jackson had… been driven there…and then removed when they were kicked off after a manager phoned Bill Bones and told him they were filming and [had] brought film crews on the ranch.”
Berlin says that she happened to locate the same ranch Jackson had previously visited, as a guest was a coincidence. He needed a ranch of that size. At the time of his visit there, it was not for sale. But after a divorce between Bill Bones and his wife, it was. Bones-a realtor, broker, builder and developer himself- did not list the ranch. In order to see the house you had to register. Berlin found out about the property – which had an original asking price of $35 million dollars - by contacting the Chamber of Commerce.
But the transaction, says Berlin, did not progress without its share of drama from Jackson’s people.
“John Branca wanted to offer them $9 million…He didn’t want to listen to me; and then he said $10 million…11…12 and finally we presented an offer. Mr. Bone went crazy and said if I had been a man, he would’ve punched me out!”
After all was said and done, Michael Jackson laid down $17 million dollars and walked away with a ranch that housed part of the Los Padres National Forest in its back yard. He was there for 15 years.
Lee Bailey asks Gloria Berlin her thoughts about what is going on with the estate since Michael’s passing.
“My thoughts are that Mrs. Jackson is an amazing woman. She’s…a true beauty…I saw her about 2 ˝ weeks ago and she told me the story about Michael and his death…For me it’s a heartbreak. I can’t even think about it without crying because I knew him since he was 12. But she is his mother. I told her Dr. Conrad Murray should be prosecuted for murder. She said ‘No, he can’t be prosecuted for murder he’s only going to be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter’. She… was very calm, very polite. She hugged me and squeezed me.
"I ended up becoming one of his playmates. We had too much fun! We were two young adults that were real childish, but we had so much fun! I would travel with him sometimes, and we would torture the press, we would hide and do things and just have a lot of fun. He wanted me to sing on some records, and I ended up doing the song “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” that he did with Siedah Garrett. Well, Michael put me on the record, I recorded that, and I was so excited, and I came back to the studio 3 days later and Quincy had taken it off and put Siedah on there"
Becky Barksdale, guitarist on Dangerous Tour
“I came out front with him and we were dancing around and playing guitar, and he was right next to me. We never really had any contact with each other. We’re doing the show, night after night after night. One night, I think we were in Buenos Aires, or Chile, I can’t remember which … I had my eyes shut and I’m playing guitar, doing a guitar solo. All of a sudden I feel something on my butt. I was like, ‘Oh my God, some crazed fan had somehow gotten past security and was on stage. But he was just having fun with me. I turned around and I saw that it was him, and my jaw dropped. And the drummer, I think he skipped a beat because he was laughing so hard.”
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Re: Ladies in Michael's Life VII
Originally Posted by really
What time period was this? Like what year? This is interesting...
Frank worked for MJ beginning 1999 and finishing in 2003 and then he didn't speak to MJ for almost 4 years until 2007 and they still weren't close (spending time together) when Mike died in 2009. Seems like the physical time MJ saw Frank from after the arrest in 2003-2009 was in NJ with his family in 2007
Until 1999 Frank had been a kid around Mike, doesn't know anything about that side of him
So all the stories about relationships he's discussing take place in the 4 years from 1999-2003
"Casual girlfriends" in 1999
Kissing fan in the back of a car
A woman he'd known for years with him in a bedroom in London (can't be 1999 then)
"Emily" (a year long relationship which would mean sometime either: 2000-2001, 2001-2002, 2002-2003)
I'd say that's at least around 5+ women involved in those years?
Frank was with a girl called Valerie in 2003, I say that because that was when Karen Faye said Frank hooked up with Joanna Thoamae in the hot tub (or in the bedroom, there's two versions of that story), so did he cheat on his GF? Or did MJ and Joanna really hook up?
She was a fan, Frank said MJ hooked up with fans
In her story doesn't she say when she got in the car with MJ she sat on his lap and they kissed? If she does that means she's the first person to speak about his back of the car make out sessions...
“He also prophesized that I would one day be a film director bigger than Steven Spielberg. As far as I was concerned, Doe 1 had written my fate.”
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Re: Ladies in Michael's Life VII
So I'm trying to figure out something about Madonna...
The hand holding took place on their first date according to Madonna.
The interview where she said that she keep saying to Michael to cut his hair and hang out with her Vogue dancers was conducted before the Academy Awards. She was rehearsing her number back then.
Her dissing kids and them saying each other to shut up was before the Oscars too. Michael said they went to other dates in- between.
Their date as they were pictured coming out below was on March 16:
The Academy Awards was on March 25. Its that night that they went to her place and she shown him those spanky books.
Spago Restaurant, April 9, 1991
And then this:
Newsday, April 18, 1991
Are Madonna and Michael Jackson up to the kissing stage yet? As unbelievable as it may seem, we hear Madonna has confided (OK, blabbed) that she and Jackson “suck face,” but that’s as far as their relationship goes.
Chicago Tribune, May 14, 1991
… about her on-again off-again cross-dressing video with Michael Jackson (it’s off again)-”He ran away from me,” the Material Girl told reporters Monday at the Cannes Film festival.
Joe Mantegna, talking about the filming of MJ’s Pepsi Commercial, sometime May 4th -22nd 1992
Joe Mantegna who worked on a commercial with Madonna in 1992 remembers that Michael was also working on a commercial in a studio nearby. He said that Madonna walked in and Michael was telling him something like, “You know Madonna can be naughty, a bad girl. Sometimes she needs to be spanked.” He hadn’t realized Madonna was standing right behind him.
“Director Joe Pytka tells US she [Madonna] visited him [Michael Jackson] on the set of an ad once: “They hung out for a while. It was a big surprise!”
LAWRENCE: She goes, ‘If you can do this, I will give you the bike -’ the bike that’s in the movie. Then I made it and you never gave me the bike. We’ll talk about it later.
PETTY: I didn’t not give you the bike.
LAWRENCE: I know. Somebody put it on a truck and lost it or whatever.
PETTY: Okay, that’s what I’m saying. I would not do that. Madonna did that to me.
LAWRENCE: About a bike?
PETTY: No, about Michael Jackson. She was talking to Michael Jackson on the phone. I said that number twenty three was Michael Jordan’s number which was my number which was why I picked number twenty three in ‘A League of Their Own’. She said, ‘Nuh uh.’ I said, ‘Uh huh.’ She said, ‘No it isn’t.’ I said, ‘Yes it is -’ because no matter what she’s saying she thinks she’s telling the truth which is just not true. I said, ‘This is Michael Jordan’s number. If this is Michael Jordan’s number, then I get to talk to Michael Jackson on the phone.’ She said fine. Then she found out that it was Michael Jordan’s number and I said, ‘Call Michael Jackson.’ And she said, ‘No.’
PETTY: Take that Madonna.
We don't know the time for this:
From Kit Culkin’s (Macaulay’s father) book Lost boy:
In a moment of unintended self-revelation, he [Michael Jackson] told me (with his hand cupped over his mouth in a gesture of ”I shouldn’t”) about how a highly popular female entertainer (I’ll withold the name) had once exposed herself to him (his words) just to see how he would react; a confession that caused him to visibly blush.
And now from Frank Cascio's book:
May 13 1993
Michael & the Chandlers leave Monaco By helicopter and in Nizza transfers to a plane to Paris where they spend three day visiting Disneyland .
Frank Cascio says he and his brother was there with them, when they got back they all went to NL together:
Michael, Eddie, and I stayed up late that night talking. We lay on the floor in front of the fireplace, flipping through magazines while Michael filled us in on some entertainment world gossip, telling us how he'd gone to Eddie Murphy's house for dinner and how Madonna tried to seduce him. Mindful of our ages, he delicately tried to explain Madonna's invitation to accompany him to her hotel room without resorting to words like "seduce."
"She... she asked me to join her in her bedroom." He put his hands over his face. "I was so shy - I didn't know what to do," he confessed.
"You should have gone for it. I would have done anything for one night with Madonna," I told him. I was young, but already girl crazy.
So when was this party? Back in 1991? 1993?
Was their back and forth was going on for longer than we thought?
And we still don't know what this was all about:
May 14, 1994 - Alex Oliveira of Hasting-on-Hudson, New York, is seeking $5 million from Jackson and two unnamed bodyguards. The suit, filed in Manhattan federal court, alleges that Oliveira photographed Jackson on March 31 and that one of the star's bodyguards then threatened to break his neck if he refused to hand over the film. The guards then allegedly began to push and choke Oliveira before taking his camera and removing the film. The suit further alleges that Jackson, who was present, made no attempt to stop the attack. Oliveira said he suffered permanent injuries from the assault and that his film was destroyed.
But just wait: The Father Christmas already know who's stocking Germs will be on December 25. The absurdste weekend of my life have greater con stalte got to Adder Viljee my Yankee connection that just three weeks of community service in New York served after he (out of sheer excitement, he assures me) a seat by the fire while A Pearl Jam concert, reliably learned that Michael Jackson a blitsromanse with Madonna had days before his marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. The two were apparently the back of a limousine in a tangled grip seen. A photographer who now wanted to capture on film, by two gorillas gekarnuffel. Later, MJ and Madonna logged in an obscure hotel, a room attendant apparently unearthly noises heard through the wall. Creepy thought, if one nasty rumors about the boyfriend's preferences into account.
The guy said he was in New York for only 3 weeks for a Pearl Jam concert, the concert was in late February