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RuPaul Comes Under Fire For Comments About Openly Trans Contestants On ‘Drag Race’

Former competitors on the show have added their voices to the fray.

RuPaul, the world-famous drag queen and host of VH1′s critically acclaimed “RuPaul’s Drag Race” franchise, is facing backlash for comments made last week about allowing openly transgender contestants to compete on his hit reality program.

The initial comments appeared in a profile of RuPaul in The Guardian. “Drag loses its sense of danger and its sense of irony once it’s not men doing it, because at its core it’s a social statement and a big f-you to male-dominated culture,” RuPaul said in the interview. “So for men to do it, it’s really punk rock, because it’s a real rejection of masculinity.”

The interviewer then asked about Season 9 contestant Peppermint, the first openly transgender woman to compete on “Drag Race.”

“Mmmm. It’s an interesting area,” RuPaul responded. “Peppermint didn’t get breast implants until after she left our show; she was identifying as a woman, but she hadn’t really transitioned.”

The interviewer then followed up, asking Ru if he would accept a contestant who had “really transitioned” onto the show. The “Drag Race” host responded by saying, “Probably not. You can identify as a woman and say you’re transitioning, but it changes once you start changing your body. It takes on a different thing; it changes the whole concept of what we’re doing. We’ve had some girls who’ve had some injections in the face and maybe a little bit in the butt here and there, but they haven’t transitioned.”

Over the weekend, Ru began facing backlash for these initial comments. But the reality star then doubled down on his statements, re-sharing The Guardian interview Monday morning on his Twitter and posting a series of controversial tweets.





RuPaul almost immediately faced backlash from fans and former contestants alike. Many accused him of being a gatekeeper of sorts for the idea of “what drag is,” and lobbed accusations that the star was excluding women ― cis and trans alike ― from the prospect of competing on “Drag Race.”





 

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Gia Gunn, who appeared on Season 7 of “Drag Race” and came out as transgender in 2017, also spoke out.



Monica Beverly Hillz, another former contestant who came out as trans during the fifth season of “Drag Race,” told Into, “I’ve always been a woman, so what I’ve done to my body or that I hadn’t started hormones while on the show doesn’t take away my identity. Our bodies do not equate our identity.”

“Drag Race” faced criticism in the past for using the phrase “she-mail,” which many viewers perceived as transphobic. The show’s producers stopped using the controversial phrase in 2014.

RuPaul addressed the controversy on Twitter Monday evening, saying he regretted “the hurt I have caused.”

“The trans community are heroes of our shared LGBTQ movement. You are my teachers,” he said. On “Drag Race,” he noted, “the only thing we’ve ever screened for is charisma uniqueness nerve and talent.”

“And that will never change,” he concluded.

 

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I was just thinking about this.
I don't think Ru is transphobic, but You can tell he is a little old fashioned.
The thing for me is, if its the breast implants he has an issue with, why let Aja and Violet and others come out on stage without breastplates.
Why accept all these queens that have had work done to LOOK more WOMANLY whilst still being men?
 

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It does become something different. There's already been that tension there, but everyone has a right to protect their space. When it's trans parades, they're the gatekeepers(as they should be). People in the drag world have a right to express their opinions and run their events/shows/etc. like they want, and be the gatekeepers there. I've seen drag artists discriminated against, and then, they understood the distinction, so understand it, now. I don't even mess with Ru like that, but people aren't being consistent.
 
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Where's the scandalosity in his statement?

The whole point of drag is men dressing as women. Trans women claim to be women so dressing as women is not drag for them, its supposed to be something they do every day.

Are they women or not?
 

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Where's the scandalosity in his statement?

The whole point of drag is men dressing as women. Trans women claim to be women so dressing as women is not drag for them, its supposed to be something they do every day.

Are they women or not?

It would only make sense if they were then dressing up as men. They only want the title when it benefits them.
 

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So the trans want to compete against men and women?? They claim to be women but want to be in a show specifically for men who do drag. Probably also want to be in shows specifically for women too. Pick a damn side.
 

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It would only make sense if they were then dressing up as men. They only want the title when it benefits them.

Exactly. Trans who claim to be women are going to go on the show and wear make up and dresses? How TF is that drag if you are already a woman?
 

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Where's the scandalosity in his statement?

The whole point of drag is men dressing as women. Trans women claim to be women so dressing as women is not drag for them, its supposed to be something they do every day.

Are they women or not?
They're not women and they know that, which is why they react the way that they do period.
 
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I mean it is RUPAUL's drag race.
He's not the gatekeeper for drag, many other shows can and have propelled based on drag race.
If it's such an issue start your own shows.
RuPaul gonna do what he wants on his show.
 

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I don't get it. What did he say that was wrong?

Drag is literally about unbinding stereotypes and mocking identity. Rupaul is not being the "gatekeeper" of that. That's literally why it was created.

Drag is ironic comedy. Transgenderism is a real symptom that affects people emotionally and physically. At the end of the day both of them do not preach the same thing: Drag is against identity norms while Trans embraces it. So I'm failing to understand where this disconnect is coming from??

At this point in time people are SJW'ing just to be an SJW. But if people actually step back and look at the history and content, then they would understand that Transpeople shouldn't even want to be considered "drag". So I'm really failing to understand why actual trans contestants are turning their backs against Rupaul as well??

And lastly Rupaul can do whatever the fµck he wants it's his money and his show!
 

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These trans people get on my damn nerves.
It's Ru's show. He can do what he pleases.
Trans always trying to intrude on other people's sh!t.

MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN SHOW.

"Trany's Drag Race. Start your engiiiiines! Trany's Drag Race. Let the best Trany wiiiiiin!"
 

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His tweet was transphobic and drag is for all trans or not , but I get what he was trying to say in the magazine interview.

RDR what a show created for people that identify as men to take part in a competition that allows you to dress like what people deem as 'feminine' and 'for women only'

It was a show created to break societie's standards on what a man should look and act like by acting 'feminine' and rejecting masculinity. If you were to allow women on there whether it being cis or trans, the idea of the show would be tarnished being that women acting 'feminine' is something that society sees as normal. If there was a portion of the show , or a new fracnhise where cis/trans women reject femininity and gender roles , then thats a diff story.
 

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This will blow over because unlike dumb women men aren’t about to let trans women take over their spaces. If you’re a “woman” then it’s not drag it’s literally you just dressing up and intensifying your makeup. I will say though it’s not always the trans community causing the chaos as much as it is these hardcore supporters.
 

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This will blow over because unlike dumb women men aren’t about to let trans women take over their spaces. If you’re a “woman” then it’s not drag it’s literally you just dressing up and intensifying your makeup. I will say though it’s not always the trans community causing the chaos as much as it is these hardcore supporters.

This is what I'm thinking.
I dunno how everyone is rushing to kumbiya and "inclusivity". Forgetting that Drag Queens including the ones that are on the shown can promote misogyny in their methods of drag.

not only that, if you look at examples of trans competitions like the Atlanta ballroom scene, you will see that transwomen in cases detach themselves from the idea of drag altogether. it's not a costume to these women there's often no padding to remove when they go home.

it's a serious lifestyle and part of their identity.

When you peel behind the layer of SJWs and young drag race fans you'll find that transwomen and drag queens would rather be happily separated in their life and their craft, than meshed together on a tv show
 

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This will blow over because unlike dumb women men aren’t about to let trans women take over their spaces. If you’re a “woman” then it’s not drag it’s literally you just dressing up and intensifying your makeup. I will say though it’s not always the trans community causing the chaos as much as it is these hardcore supporters.
I agree. Their supporters are even dumber than they are.
 
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There are a lot of layers going on here.

I don't believe Ru was excluding Trans women when he made the comment. They've had trans women on there before. People have began to question if women should be allowed to compete but they're not talking about trans women.

Many of the first Drag Queens were actually trans women in a time when dressing as a woman 24/7 wasn't as easy to get away with. I think they feel like they've always been in the scene so there is no reason to exclude them.

A lot of them are still in their feelings about the "She-mail" term and how Ru got an attitude when they asked him to change it.
 

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This will blow over because unlike dumb women men aren’t about to let trans women take over their spaces. If you’re a “woman” then it’s not drag it’s literally you just dressing up and intensifying your makeup. I will say though it’s not always the trans community causing the chaos as much as it is these hardcore supporters.
This. The only people affected by the sh!t trans women cry about are biological women. Men don’t play that sh!t. Trans women in drag is just a “woman” in makeup. Y’all wanna be women or men? Pick a side pick a side.
 

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Ru will continue to slay. Goodbye Carmen Carrera.

I think trans women are jealous of the popular success of RuPaul and his show about men dressing up as women.
 

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Fighting over who can play dress up. Because that's what both sides do, just play dress up. If you are already playing dress up everyday and mimicking women as your lifestyle then why go prancing around a stage doing it for a show. Doesn't make sense, that's not what drag is about hence why you don't see biological women doing it.
 

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They are not women and they know that which is why they react the way that they do period.
This. Otherwise it wouldn't be offensive. Drag is about men challenging their feminine side by being more fashion expressive and channeling femme styles and mannerisms. This is the main reason rupaul never got a trans reconstruction because he understand the concept of drag. The trans mtf group is really bullyish but makes since because they still have the entitlement issues of real men. They feel like the should control all vices surrounding them. I barely hear any bitching from ftm groups. No hate btw.

Drag is mean't to be another personality and xes different than yourself. It's a different step to get a transition because drag is men who love being men but don't mind dressing as a female clothing once in a while.
 

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I don't have a problem with what he said. He's right. Drag Queens are men who dress like women. If you're a trans-woman, then you're not a man dressing like a woman. You're a trans-woman dressing like a woman. Yes, it is different. I'm a biological woman, I can't be a drag queen. It's not the same. They'd call me a faux queen. I can do another type of drag- dressing like a male.

The topic of trans-men doing drag gets complicated though, depending on how much they've transition themselves. Do they look like a man normally or do they still look like a woman, thus not making it really drag, imo. It's like, they're cheating. And I know some trans-women who haven't transitioned yet may use drag to express themselves like Peppermint did and Carmen Carrera when she was on the show way back when. I think that's fine.
 

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my goodness, those men who wanted to be a woman are exhausting

they want to be women and want the real women to be called cys-women, and they want to compete on a DRAG queen race, when drag queen always meant a man dressed as a woman.
 

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I'm confused, drag race is about men who identify as men wearing women's clothing. WHY are men who identify as women mad they aren't allowed on a show about men dressing as women?

Women aren't even on the show .... Soooo, what's the point of this outrage?
 

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If someone calls a transwoman a drag queen, isn't that offensive? I don't get it.


Oxymoron lies dormant in there somewhere.

I still believe if your chromosome does not identify as a woman, you are N O T a woman. Not in this life time and certainly not the next. What you are is someone who played dress up seeing their moms and sisters dress up. You were in awe with the female beauty and thought you could be them. You mentally never grew out of that because no one taught you that you cannot BE them. You can emulate them as if it's Halloween, but to be a woman??? Wearing tight dresses and heels does NOT define you as a woman. Wearing makeup, having to perfect the contour and highlight does NOT define you as a woman. And being a woman is NOT a mental state. It is your chromosome alone with an entire being that cannot be mimic. :arrogant
 

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Oxymoron lies dormant in there somewhere.

I still believe if your chromosome does not identify as a woman, you are N O T a woman. Not in this life time and certainly not the next. What you are is someone who played dress up seeing their moms and sisters dress up. You were in awe with the female beauty and thought you could be them. You mentally never grew out of that because no one taught you that you cannot BE them. You can emulate them as if it's Halloween, but to be a woman??? Wearing tight dresses and heels does NOT define you as a woman. Wearing makeup, having to perfect the contour and highlight does NOT define you as a woman. And being a woman is NOT a mental state. It is your chromosome alone with an entire being that cannot be mimic. :arrogant

I'm just going by what I've read of transwomen. They state that they are women, so why are they mad about not being welcome on a drag queen program? How can they be both transwoman and drag queen? I bet if the show was about transwomen and some men who just dressed up as women were accepted on the show they would be salty.
 

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just a few years ago, everyone was up on twitter and on tumblr writing thinkpieces about how RPDR and drag in general invalidated transwomen. Now, they wanna be all up in the kool aid and don't even know the flavor. How you wanna swear you're a woman but wanna be on a show about gay cis men dressing up as women? Clearly, deep down inside, they know that all they are are gay men. Any woman that is complaining about RPDR not being inclusive of women obviously doesn't know what the hell drag is. You can't make them happy. Not everything is for every and anybody and people need to be able to have their own spaces and things. Forcing inclusivity is insane, and it creates a monolith where cultures can't thrive or even exist.

and I saw on various platforms people are saying transwomen created drag (apparently, they created everything) and that Marsha p. Johnson pioneered it. they just wanna pin everything on that dead man.
 

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a drag queen is a MAN dressing up in traditionally women's clothings.

i thought "trans women" were women? :disdain if this is how they're gonna do it they might as well let real women on the show too if anyone can be a drag queen.

also typical of the trans community to harass him so badly he was forced to apologize in fear.
 
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a drag queen is a MAN dressing up in traditionally women's clothings.

i thought "trans women" were women? :disdain if this is how they're gonna do it they might as well let real women on the show too if anyone can be a drag queen.

also typical of the trans community to harass him so badly he was forced to apologize in fear.
Drag has never been exclusive to men dressed as girls, it has always included everyone in the gender spectrum. That is why the Drag Balls in Paris is Burning have different categories that include men dressed as "unclockable"/ straight men, women dressing as over the top drag queens, etc, and the iconic Venus Xtravaganza was going through the process to become a trans woman. It's all about blurring gender lines, something RuPaul constantly mentions. I'm not sure how he forgot what he preaches. Must be old age.

In the words of Ru:
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and I saw on various platforms people are saying transwomen created drag (apparently, they created everything) and that Marsha p. Johnson pioneered it. they just wanna pin everything on that dead man.

Isn't it amazing how the "most marginalised and oppressed people EVER" managed to create everything, get women the right to vote, pioneered and pushed through gay rights but somehow failed to free themselves e1. When most of the people from the civil rights ere are dead, they will claim to be the driving force behind that too, just you watch.
 

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Isn't it amazing how the "most marginalised and oppressed people EVER" managed to create everything, get women the right to vote, pioneered and pushed through gay rights but somehow failed to free themselves e1. When most of the people from the civil rights ere are dead, they will claim to be the driving force behind that too, just you watch.

the march on Washington? marsha p Johnson. harriet tubman? was actually a transgender pansexual acegender demigirl. Robert Mueller's Russian interference investigation? it was actually marsha Johnson.
 

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