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General Debbie Rowe discussion Part IV

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I think the kids were Michael’s main concern, he had his reasons to keep Debbie away from them because he knew she didn’t care to see the kids, she wanted to see him in my opinion. If she was genuine about wanting to see her kids, i would feel sorry for her because people can change their minds and regret their decisions.

Oh I agree with your assessment. She wanted to be in MJ’s life, not the kids, so he had to protect them from such a confusing situation. And when Debbie realized that he was done, she got even with the Sneddon shenanigans.

But the fact she sued for custody, moved to get her parental rights back but in the end walked away from the kids without visitation, proves money was very important to her as well. Overall, it’s just immoral that she used the trial as a means to an end.

After reading that hearing where she relinquished her rights, I’d honestly never believe she had any regrets about her decision.
 

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Plus...after the trial, when Michael left for Bahrain, Debbie had contacted FBI to accusing him of used illegal passports and kidnapping children.
 

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Oh yeah I forgot about that. And even the FBI told her that that are his kids and he could take me where he wanted. He didn't need her permission.
 

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I really wish Michael had found a more trustworthy woman to have his kids. Like even if her only motive was to make Michael's dream come true of fatherhood I wish the b!tch wasn't so evil and vindictive. I'm glad Prince doesn't acknowledge her.
 
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She is crazier than I ever realized.

my butt was shocked when I read all the sh!ts she put him through.

And I don't know why anyone expect the kids to acknowledge her when she went on tv telling the world that she doesn't want her kids to call her "mom". smh! both ex-wives were terrible! I'll be worried for mj if they ever get to write a tell-all because you can't tell what they gonna write about 'n how. it's always hot 'n cold. just like their behavior during the trail. you don't know if they will trash or praise him. such twisted women.
 

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Not exactly. Debbie was suing Michael in court asking for the alimony that was cut off by Michael because she spoke with the press betraying her confidentiality agreement. Debbie was contacted by the police because she participated in the rebuttal to Bashir’s documentary as the Arvizo’s family. Sneddon wanted to prove Michael "forced" them to lie to defend him in that rebuttal. Debbie said to the detective who talked to her that Michael was a sociopath who treated his kids as possessions. So she was called by the prosecution as witness, but she didn’t betray Sneddon and she didn’t particularly defended Michael. Debbie simply told the truth.

Wow, I did not know that. F- her
 

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I'm glad some of you guys remember the crap Debbie pulled during the trial.

MJ fans like to see red about what LMP did during the trial but put on rose tinted glasses for Debbie. Honestly I think MJ didn't give a fµck about what Lisa was saying,he was over her, but Debbie's lawyer on tv hinting at custody battles caused him major pain.

I'm not convinced MJ would have married Debbie if her pregnancy hadn't got leaked to the press. But knowing now how shady Klein,Marc and Debbie are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was one or all them that leaked it to the tabloids.

The most common myth about Debbie is she hated the spotlight. She gave a ton of interviews and even appeared on TV crying while she had an op on her eyes. WTF?

She is just as crazy as Karen imo. She caught MJ at a low point and took advantage.MJ probably thought she was trustworthy since they had a years old friendship and she turnout to be as batshit as the rest of them.
 

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Edit I don't think Marc was around when Prince was born but I still stand by what I said that I wouldn't be surprised if Klein or Debbie leaked her pregnancy to the tabloids.
 

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T-Mez about Debbie (55:55) and Lisa (58:17) - trial 2005

 

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Edit I don't think Marc was around when Prince was born but I still stand by what I said that I wouldn't be surprised if Klein or Debbie leaked her pregnancy to the tabloids.

It was Debbie who leaked the pregnancy. She claimed it was by accident because she didn’t know the man she was talking at the plane was a reporter for The News of the World tabloid. I used to believe her story, but after Paris’ suicide attempt where she was the first person to confirm it to the media, I believe she leaked the pregnancy on purpose to make Michael marry her due to the pressure of public opinion.
 

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I remember during the trial, a tv crew followed her around. She had a facial done before she appeared in court which I thought was odd.

I didn't know she did all that. I now understand why Prince wants nothing to do with her. I guess the only good woman in his life was Blanket's mom. I wonder sometimes if Blanket knows who his mother is and has a relationship with her but they managed to keep things under wraps.
 
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I remember during the trial, a tv crew followed her around before the trial. She had a facial done before she appeared in court which I thought was odd.

I didn't know she did all that. I now understand why Prince wants nothing to do with her. I guess the only good woman in his life was Blanket's mom. I wonder sometimes if Blanket knows who his mother is and has a relationship with her but they managed to keep things under wraps.
I remember this document, but I can't find it anywhere.
 

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Entertainment Tonight

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Earlier this week, we accompanied her as she received micro-dermabrasion, lash tinting, eyebrow and eyeliner tattooing and Thermage at the Woodglen Institute of Aesthetics in Glendora, CA. "I said yeah, bring it on," reports Debbie. "This procedure was great." But Debbie also has a few choice words on extreme makeovers.

"I don't like the extreme makeovers; I have a serious problem with those shows," she says. "I think they're dangerous. Everything that I've had done has been done over a course of four months, and it's very little, because a little bit at a time can make a big difference."

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Yeah I used to think that Debbie was way better than Lisa but I now realize Michael made a mistake marrying both of those b!tches. He was cheated out of a lot of things in life, like not having a good marriage for one thing because I think neither one of those b!tches were in the marriage with Michael for the right reasons.

Debbie is scum I see that now. Prince was right to keep a distance and Paris did say awhile ago on Instagram that Debbie wasn't a positive person to have in her life so she cut her off. I guess they reconciled only when Debbie was diagnosed with breast cancer. I hate that Prince and Paris basically never had a mother in their lives. I can only give credit to Debbie for giving Michael children but I wish that would have came from a woman who truly loved him.
 

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Entertainment Tonight

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Earlier this week, we accompanied her as she received micro-dermabrasion, lash tinting, eyebrow and eyeliner tattooing and Thermage at the Woodglen Institute of Aesthetics in Glendora, CA. "I said yeah, bring it on," reports Debbie. "This procedure was great." But Debbie also has a few choice words on extreme makeovers.

"I don't like the extreme makeovers; I have a serious problem with those shows," she says. "I think they're dangerous. Everything that I've had done has been done over a course of four months, and it's very little, because a little bit at a time can make a big difference."

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She looks hideous.
 

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Wow, I did not know that. F- her
Does anyone think MJ on the low, tested the parternity of the kids to see if Debbie was truly honest? Because if he paid her and had to go through with the sh!t she did in ‘05, I’m sure he had to be sure.
 

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Does anyone think MJ on the low, tested the parternity of the kids to see if Debbie was truly honest? Because if he paid her and had to go through with the sh!t she did in ‘05, I’m sure he had to be sure.
For years, it's been said that he did have paternity tests done on the kids, however, I don't know the source of this story or whether or not it's true.
 

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For years, it's been said that he did have paternity tests done on the kids, however, I don't know the source of this story or whether or not it's true.

The news came out in the article of one british tabloid in '97, it said that MJ had DNA test for Prince in London.

I should have the screenshot somewhere. When I have time I look for it and post it.
 

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Does anyone think MJ on the low, tested the parternity of the kids to see if Debbie was truly honest? Because if he paid her and had to go through with the sh!t she did in ‘05, I’m sure he had to be sure.

Months ago, I was reading an article online and I could have sworn it mentioned that Michael had a prenatal paternity test done when Debbie was pregnant with Prince. If true, it's likely he did the same with Paris as well.

It's too bad I can't remember where I saw it. I was hunting for it a few weeks ago and couldn't find it. :/
 

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Months ago, I was reading an article online and I could have sworn it mentioned that Michael had a prenatal paternity test done when Debbie was pregnant with Prince. If true, it's likely he did the same with Paris as well.

It's too bad I can't remember where I saw it. I was hunting for it a few weeks ago and couldn't find it. :/

I’m just wondering because I keep seeing all these post about Paris and prince and everyone saying dumb things, just because they pass. Since Debbie is doing shady stuff I’m wondering if she could’ve been shady enough to not be truthful with the children.
 

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I always thought it was so bizarre that she practically begged him to have his children. Who does that? Debbie knew his weakness and used it to her advantage. It's so sad that she used the children to get close to him. Maybe now, she's changed. During the AEG trial, she broke down in tears while she talked about Paris' suicide attempt.
 

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It's so sad that she used the children to get close to him.

She was already in his life, in her capacity as Arnold Klein's assistant and she and Michael had a friendly relationship, so I don't think getting close to him was her main motivation.

Personally, I'm glad she offered to have his children for him, otherwise he might never have become a father. I have read that they planned to have a lot more than two, as well....except there was some kind of damage to her uterus, after giving birth to Paris and could no longer conceive.
 

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I always thought it was so bizarre that she practically begged him to have his children. Who does that? Debbie knew his weakness and used it to her advantage. It's so sad that she used the children to get close to him. Maybe now, she's changed. During the AEG trial, she broke down in tears while she talked about Paris' suicide attempt.

After I read the Rabbi‘s book and just keeping up with the MJ, Lisa, and Debbie thing, I don’t find it weird at all that she offered to have his children. That type of thing happens everyday, literally. What was different is legally Michael and Lisa were still married by the time Debbie gave Michael his first (allegedly) but if u care for someone and want to do what you want with your body I don’t see what’s wrong with that.
 

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Nah as much as I am glad MJ had children. Debbie offering to have his babies like "gifts" while he was still married was just plain wrong.
 

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After I read the Rabbi‘s book and just keeping up with the MJ, Lisa, and Debbie thing, I don’t find it weird at all that she offered to have his children. That type of thing happens everyday, literally. What was different is legally Michael and Lisa were still married by the time Debbie gave Michael his first (allegedly) but if u care for someone and want to do what you want with your body I don’t see what’s wrong with that.

Surrogacy is normal and happens but that wasn't my issue. It's the fact the she begged him. Michael was unsure as he was still married to Lisa. When Lisa dared him to (according to Lisa during her Oprah interview), Mike ran with it.
 

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