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HTGAWM 5x03 - “The Baby was never dead” 10-11-18

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Connor will be a thot for life, I don't care if he getting married.
yep. I thought it was real fµck!ng weird how both Ollie and Connor were making obvious statements and gestures that they wanna eff NuWes. And right in front of each other no less? To me that means the relationship is skating on thin ice or maybe Pete is writing them as a hypersexual gay couple. A stereotype. Smh.

In my opinion, that would be a lazy reveal. At least make the twin look a little bit different than Bonnie. Different hair style, color, or something.
Tbh I don't want OG Bonnie dead. It's great Liza will still be on the show but I don't want ha dead.
 

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Tbh I don't want OG Bonnie dead. It's great Liza will still be on the show but I don't want ha dead.

It has to be someone we’re not expecting. Wes was definitely unexpected for me. I’m leaning towards Nate & possibly Laurel’s mom. I don’t see what her sister has to do with Christopher.
 

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In my opinion, that would be a lazy reveal. At least make the twin look a little bit different than Bonnie. Different hair style, color, or something.

Maybe she cut her hair to look like Bonnie once she showed up. Lol. She did look really nice in that dress at the wedding. Either Bonnie got a stylist or that ain’t Bonnie. Jk! Lol

I don’t know I’m just joking but yes I agree with you. I don’t like the idea of twins in mystery books/movies/shows anyway. It’s too easy. “The twin did it.” Boooo Lol


ETA: I can’t wait to get off work, get home and watch it again. I was cuttin up on here too much last night. I know I missed things. Lol
 

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yep. I thought it was real fµck!ng weird how both Ollie and Connor were making obvious statements and gestures that they wanna eff NuWes. And right in front of each other no less? To me that means the relationship is skating on thin ice or maybe Pete is writing them as a hypersexual gay couple. A stereotype. Smh.

Tbh I don't want OG Bonnie dead. It's great Liza will still be on the show but I don't want ha dead.

Oh please gay men are the biggest hoes out there.
 

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY BOO OLIVER!!!!!!

Oh Ollie...

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*calms down and thinks rationally*

Ok, I don’t think they’d reveal this too soon... I’m going to assume he’s safe for now. Damn this show for sucking me in again.
 

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What the hell is going on with Tegan and Michaela? It's like this weird xesual tension.

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And then she says "I'm not giving up on us." all teary eyed. I was so confused. Tegan got emotional about it too.

I swear if they kill off Oliver, I will be so fµck!ng happy. I can't stand that lil b!tch.

This season is lit though.
 

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I wonder if Mikayla is going to try reaching out to Cora in order to get back in Tegan's good graces. I can totally see her no boundaries ass trying to fix her personal life after messing up her professional one.
 

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yall im late to the watch thread but i realize why i dont like the new kid! his face been bothering me all season cause he looks like a muppet from the dark crystal. there. i said it.! do something >_>
 

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Missed live watching with y'all last night!

Aja needs to play a stalker in one of those "girl goes crazy and stalks ex and their new boo" movies because she was giving me those vibes in every scene involving Tegan lol. She needs to let it go.

I liked the case. The asshole got what he deserved going to jail. He was a misogynistic narc and I was happy with the end result.

The AK/Tegan scenes were good. Been loving the AK/Bonnie scenes as well. Timothy Hutton's a good actor, but he's just kind of "here" on this show. Now they're trying to have us wonder what the "misconduct" in London was about.

I will holler if NuWes/Laurel happens. I won't be shocked and I won't care so it is what it is tbh. Frank will kill his ass tho.

So Bonnie has a twin, huh? That theory sounds semi plausible, but I don't want the OG Shmurda to die so I rebuke that lol.

A solid episode though. See y'all next week!
 

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I liked the episode/ this season so far but it's defenitely missing something .

Bonnie having a twin sister sounds like something that would happen in a telenovela ... Wonder if Karla pitched this idea (n)
 

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Teagan is definitely there for pretty eye candy and nothing more I am afraid. Michaela needs to just stop. Hell Annalise needs to give her the Asher speech "Get your life together instead of being all Single Black Female". Sorry it isn't a good look and she only worked there about two months if that, so why is she acting like her and Teagan had this great bond. At this point, I much rather see Michaela with very little screentime then these weird emotional outbreaks.

Annalise is so going to try to save her boss. Now she will the emotionally stable one helping other people. Not even sure what direction they will go in.

Frank is doomed to stay in Laurel orbit, so I think Wes 2.0 is going to befriend Laurel. He is going to go crazy thinking they are hooking up.They aren't going to hook up though. I still question if Wes 2.0 is going to used in the Oliver/Connor relationship.

Connor and Oliver will never have a happy ending. Hopefully Oliver dies If Wes can go so can he.
 
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I still very much enjoy the show but the comments in here are mostly about how boring it is.

Like, it's episode 3. Give it a min to set some groundwork.
 

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I don't think it's Oliver in the snow because the flash forward scene needs to move along. There's no way they can make everyone's eyes wander around the room and the MC say "Oliver? Oliver?" Over the mic for the next 12 episodes.
 

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Question: Maybe I need to go back and watch. But for the DNA sample, only Bonnie's cup was taken for DNA, right? Did they show a scene where the DNA for New Wes was taken? Because I'm thinking there are going to be two revelations, not one. But I may be way off if I'm missing something. Not very sure how it all works (DNA sampling), but I feel like it was a match for another baby and there will be a twist. Frank is going to find out something and Nate will find out something.

I'm thinking there's another twist too. ATM it looks like Frank and Nate are looking into the same people from different angles so they're bound to cross paths. I really don't see them working together and swapping notes so I think there's a third or fourth person.

Notice how the DNA woman didn't name names and we didn't see any names on the files either? We know Nate is looking into bonnie and Frank is looking into Gabriel but there's nothing to solidly say they're the mother and son.
 

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Bonnie's boyfriend looks so damn weird


I'm just here for Viola at this point.

They pushing this FTM trans and Bonnie so hard but I am NOT convinced.
Listen y'all they keep selling us this FTM transexual and Bonnie but I'm not buying it. Why would he be all over her? He knew from last season that she's not with him for the righ reasons.
So glad I’m not alone! He looks FTM so much that I actually went and googled him. No kids,but there’s a pic from high school in which he is “male-—

I'm calling it right now! Teagan is gonna get with Annalise and Mikayla.
What a love triangle this would be!

I been hoping it's Oliver in the snow, but that'd be too obvious right now. I want him gone. I can't stand him.
Sadly it won’t be Oliver; I don’t think they’re going to kill a gay man or another man of color.

Why would anyone wanna kill good ol Oliver?! He's the most innocent at heart one in the show.
Oliver sabotaged Connor’s shot to transfer to another school. That’s abuse. He knew Connor really wanted it and that life here was stressing him the fµck out and he still trapped him.

Oliver has no room to ever judge what anyone else does. He is trash.
Waittttttt whatttttttt??? So um anyway are they going to explain why Bonnie was in Scandal under another name? Was that the twin?
Lol, that girl is dead, so prob no relation to Bonnie.
 

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This show is just starting to get good this season! They lost me with the wes/laural/laural's dad drama, but I'm back. I do think the twin story line is super unrealistic and reminds me of PLL and my disappointment with the ending. lol but still.

I think Bonnie's twin stole the bby and probably raised it as her own, but it doesn't make sense to me if they were teens at the time. & how is the baby black if it's her father that was raping her?

I think it is either Asher, Bonnie, or Oliver who was in the snow and Bonnie's twin is the one who killed them, or either Bonnie killed he twin.
 

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Sadly it won’t be Oliver; I don’t think they’re going to kill a gay man or another man of color.
Yeah, I know it won't be. It would've been too obvious, especially with the way the editing was alluding to it being to him. That would've been some real sloppy writing and directing if it were the case. I really wish it was though. He's been working my nerve. :mad2
 

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What the hell is going on with Tegan and Michaela? It's like this weird xesual tension.

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And then she says "I'm not giving up on us." all teary eyed. I was so confused. Tegan got emotional about it too.

I swear if they kill off Oliver, I will be so fµck!ng happy. I can't stand that lil b!tch.

This season is lit though.
Annalise said it last season or the season before, Michaela looks for a mother in women she gets close to. She was adopted and her adopted mom wasn’t sh!t. I wish we can go more into her background but no it’s the Laurel show.
 

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Finally saw it. The episode was ok to me but Tegan got a mean a** walk. She needs to be featured WAY more than anybody from the Keating 5. That walk is memorable. ;););)
 

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I'm thinking there's another twist too. ATM it looks like Frank and Nate are looking into the same people from different angles so they're bound to cross paths. I really don't see them working together and swapping notes so I think there's a third or fourth person.

Notice how the DNA woman didn't name names and we didn't see any names on the files either? We know Nate is looking into bonnie and Frank is looking into Gabriel but there's nothing to solidly say they're the mother and son.
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I’m curious why Frank is looking into Gabriel. Nate looking into Bonnie’s case makes sense, since he’s a detective at heart, and is trying to get to the bottom of DA Denver’s searching into the files. But with Frank, I am curious if he’s involved in the kidnapping of Bonnie’s baby. The fact he knows Bonnie’s son is alive and she doesn’t tells me there is something sinister going on. Also last season, it was assumed Frank was talking to Annalise, but now it’s clear it was someone else. I’m worried about the DNA woman's safety. I think she’s going to figure out what Nate is up to.
 

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I think it was Bonnie's sister that Michaela was talking to. They dressed her differently....i see a difference in her body language...I'll be very surprised if that's actually Bonnie.

I don't like the fact that Nate is going through everyones file. He'll be the death of them in the end. I just know it.

There's some ish going on with Laurel's mom too. She's keeping secrets.
I hate how there is no one honest on this show. They all deserve the worst because they're all horrible people.

Oliver is obviously not dead...they're making that too simple.
I'm still enjoying the show.
 
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Went back to Ep.1 clip (1:26)
After listening to it repeatedly.
IT SOUNDS LIKE TEGAN. She has this slight rasp to her voice. I heard it in the gasping..
Laurel's dad could have put a hit on her for being the "mole" or
Maybe Tegan was going to take Christopher forced my Laurels mother. Or changed her mind about handing him over and Laurels mom stabbed or shot her. Seen Bonnie coming and left the scene????
LOL idk. My brain hurts now.
 
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Went back to Ep.1 clip (1:26)
After listening to it repeatedly.
IT SOUNDS LIKE TEGAN. She has this slight rasp to her voice. I heard it in the gasping..
Laurel's dad could have put a hit on her for being the "mole" or
Maybe Tegan was going to take Christopher forced my Laurels mother. Or changed her mind about handing him over and Laurels mom stabbed or shot her. Seen Bonnie coming and left the scene????
LOL idk. My brain hurts now.


It sounds a lot like Tegan!
 

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I’m really enjoying this season. Don’t know why you guys are complaining.
This case was pathetic though. Imagine going to jail for a cheating wife.

I don’t understand the purpose behind Frank & Nate looking for Bonnie’s child. Why do they care at all?

I actually like this new Asher. Based on his family background he’d be well suited to a job like this. No idea why they made him so pathetic in the last few seasons. He actually seems sharp & intelligent now.
 

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I knew the b!tch was crazy when she told Annalise she suffocated Rebecca for her.
Right. They are dragging out this Gabriel and death plot but I'm sure neither will be a surprise.


He is not intimating at all. I don't take him seriously as a character.



Michaela looks batshit crazy right now. The storyline with her mom left a bad taste in my mouth. That was not a one episode arc.:no2



Would have made for a much better show. i would love to see Annalise starting a new firm with Bonnie away from the peasants .


Pete is literally just recycling plots at this point. How Asher has the audacity to go against Annalise after she covered up for him is ridiculous.



Emmett is probably a rapist.



Once again Tegan is being wasted on Michaela. Why can't we see Tegan working on some cases or with Annalise?



I'm 99.99% sure it's going to happen. I've seen at least three pictures with Karla and Rome posted on social media.



He's a bore to watch.



She's needs true therapy because Sam and Issac were not it

I'm sure he cried on the inside when Annalise wished him well.



This. The cases (not really strong) and episodes are not flowing together. So far this season is better the s4 but it's a shell of it's former self.



Annalise and Bonnie are the only characters keeping my attention. It's a shame that BonBon is being wasted on the new D.A.



This case was just stupid.



I'm not too surprised. Last season was Connor's redemption for how he was written in s3.



I guess Pete had to give Nate something do other than stalk Annalise. :twitcy



Yes! At least the other client wasn't disrespecting her left and right.



I was excited to see the return of Annalise but they are still writing her as weak in some aspects. I doubt that Asher will be properly dealt with and the OJ belt recommendation is not something she would do.



It really is and even then sometimes it hard to watch.


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I could get behind it if the reason why Famke hasn't been back was because she was booked up but I really believe it's because Pete has paid her dust since her last visit. Of course if she never comes back I would have to deal :Cry lol If done right I could get behind AK/Tegan pairing but I'm really rooting for a true friendship between them. You don't see too many positive black female relationships anymore.

Sorry for the 20 million quotes. :laugh2

I agree with this. The legal clinic sh!t has been done and dusted in the previous seasons. Annalise starting her own firm with Bonnie & Teagen should have been the right thing to do. It would give Frank and Nate a role to play as well as investigators or something.
 

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I agree with this. The legal clinic sh!t has been done and dusted in the previous seasons. Annalise starting her own firm with Bonnie & Teagen should have been the right thing to do. It would give Frank and Nate a role to play as well as investigators or something.
Thank you. In this episode the students did nothing but talk about how hot they think Gabriel is and how the baby never laughs so why are they needed? I also think this clinic is just another way for Annalise to get blamed for something..again. This case was just a poor man's version of s1 where AK's client covered up for his daughter. :unsure: I don't care about the baby story line but at least Nate is not stalking AK anymore. Frank is really pointless now that Annalise and Bonnie have outgrown him. I just read the synopsis for this week's episode and Amirah is being wasted on Aja again. :no2
 
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So I just watched this episode and I just want to say...




I WAS fµck!ng RIGHT! BONNIE'S SISTER IS INVOLVED! I had forgot to me tion that Bonnie's voice sounded weird in the flash forward. Too whispery (although that may actually be Bonnie), but holy sh!t! I knew that chick had to be Bonnie's sister when I saw it! (I didn't think she was a twin though. Just a younger sister)...
 

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Why was Oliver looking at new guy like that towards the end? Was he trying to read his lips? He was staring sooo hard. It was strange.

Oliver realized that it was Gabriel’s phone that Frank asked him to clone. He saw Gabriel with his old school flip phone.
 

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Was President Soraya Hargrove (played by Luna Lauren Velez) made a series regular? I was trying to figure out why we haven't seen her at all this season (I know we are only 3 episodes in).
 

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All I know the person in the snow was a woman.


I chuckled when he said "if it doesn't fit you must acquit" arrogant asshole.

Do you think Bonnie's sister killed Bonnie? What other woman would Laurel trust with her son other than Mckaylah, Bonnie and Annalise? We already know it wasn't M or A in the snow.
 
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Honestly I'm wondering if it's the Governor in the snow. She's actively trying to keep Annalise from working through sabotage.
But that doesn't explain Annalise's reaction in the flash forward.
Hmmm...

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Catching up with this in the UK. Always late lol

That Gabs boy, Rome Flynn, seems to be comfortable with gay roles.

I first saw him on Drumline a new beat in which he had a very steamy on screen gay kiss with another very good looking black dude.

He was also flirting with a guy on haves and have not...

His mom is very stunning black woman but as someone said he loves himself a lot too. He also has a daughter.

Looking fwd to seeing how his character develops.
 

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