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  • Hell fµck!ng yeah, Asher is dead
  • Tegan helped Laurel escape.... lol at her lil legs tryna speedwalk to catch up with AK
  • Oliver annoys me
  • Michaela needs black friends because this mufucka doing shrooms and getting arrested in her cap and gown
  • I've been over Nate
  • Frank went from being in love with Horel and getting friendzoned to being in love with Bonnie
  • Who was on the other side of the door when Gabriel answered? I'm glad he audio recorded Frank
  • Again, yessir Asher is dead....
  • What if Tegan helped Wes escape and fake his death, just like she helped Horel?
See yall in April
 

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So I remember when Wes died and the morgue lost his body.

This show got me all over the place. I know the very last episode will probably send me to my grave.
 

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Maybe thats not Wes, its Christopher when he is an adult and Annalise have died frfr.
 

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Asher won the class prize money, too. SMMFH that was probably foreshadowing, there won’t be a body at Annalise’s funeral. I just don’t like how the informant story was his family recruiting him to snitch. It would’ve been stronger if Asher was informing since s3 in exchange for immunity for killing that prosecutor.

I agree with those saying Wes is probably a dream sequence and a fan service appearance. There’s too much nonsense going on in this season already, and not enough episodes to properly write Wes in.

WTF is the point of the Castillo / governor / Nate refusing the money story THIS LATE in the game??

Was Gabe’s mom necessary? Michaela’s dad? Tegan’s wife?

Setting a reminder to watch in April.
 

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And Nate has some mfn nerve. You cheated on your dying wife and beat a innocent man to death.
 

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But why is Pete and the official HTGAWM twitter still using the hashtag

#WhoKilledAnnalise

if she's not dead? They've got some explaining to do.
 

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Recap of episode 8:
  • Annalise's tries to tank the case against the governor to protect Bonnie but her attempts don't work. She even pretends to show interest in Tegan's life.
  • For a final exam Annalie's gives an exam that references Snow White. It seems to mirror her life by having the queen fake her death. Asher takes home the cash prize.
  • Oliver's unemployed ass decides to hack into the university to get the K3's application essays and possibly kidnaps a litter of puppies to make them feel better.
  • Great Value Wes tells Michaela about herself and Asher takes it upon himself to kiss Michaela when she's attempting to have a moment of clarity.
  • We're forced to another cringe date scene Robert where he's taken a particular interest in Nate's abs.
  • After Bonnie's breaks are cut AK has Frank threaten the guard into telling the truth. Naturally Nate still won't take a deal like he didn't participate in killing an innocent man. Tegan possibly believes that Nate is shady but still is defending him. :unsure: Bonnie kicks Frank out of her hospital room.
  • The episode ends with a distraught looking Annalise making plans to start a new life but we do not see the driver when the car drives away.

I was going to list all of the plot holes of the season but that would take me all year... I think this has been one of their worst seasons with no structure and throwing things at the wall hoping it sticks.

What are you're final predictions? Here are mine from another thread.:


The cast sans Nate were recently at an event at the Paley Center.:
mRdv6Pj.jpg


VDX0IQf.jpg


Who is Nate and was the (she) Mexican white killed off? And if that person was offed what season and/or episode name/number, please and thanks OP.
 

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Recap of episode 8:
  • Annalise's tries to tank the case against the governor to protect Bonnie but her attempts don't work. She even pretends to show interest in Tegan's life.
  • For a final exam Annalie's gives an exam that references Snow White. It seems to mirror her life by having the queen fake her death. Asher takes home the cash prize.
  • Oliver's unemployed ass decides to hack into the university to get the K3's application essays and possibly kidnaps a litter of puppies to make them feel better.
  • Great Value Wes tells Michaela about herself and Asher takes it upon himself to kiss Michaela when she's attempting to have a moment of clarity.
  • We're forced to another cringe date scene Robert where he's taken a particular interest in Nate's abs.
  • After Bonnie's breaks are cut AK has Frank threaten the guard into telling the truth. Naturally Nate still won't take a deal like he didn't participate in killing an innocent man. Tegan possibly believes that Nate is shady but still is defending him. :unsure: Bonnie kicks Frank out of her hospital room.
  • The episode ends with a distraught looking Annalise making plans to start a new life but we do not see the driver when the car drives away.

I was going to list all of the plot holes of the season but that would take me all year... I think this has been one of their worst seasons with no structure and throwing things at the wall hoping it sticks.

What are you're final predictions? Here are mine from another thread.:


The cast sans Nate were recently at an event at the Paley Center.:
mRdv6Pj.jpg


VDX0IQf.jpg


Who is Nate and was the (she) Mexican white killed off? And if that person was offed what season and/or episode name/number, please and thanks OP.
 

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Maybe thats not Wes, its Christopher when he is an adult and Annalise have died frfr.

Now THAT would be a twist! I never even considered that one but given the haircut Alfred Enoch had, I can definitely see it.
 

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Asher won the class prize money, too. SMMFH that was probably foreshadowing, there won’t be a body at Annalise’s funeral. I just don’t like how the informant story was his family recruiting him to snitch. It would’ve been stronger if Asher was informing since s3 in exchange for immunity for killing that prosecutor.

I agree with those saying Wes is probably a dream sequence and a fan service appearance. There’s too much nonsense going on in this season already, and not enough episodes to properly write Wes in.

WTF is the point of the Castillo / governor / Nate refusing the money story THIS LATE in the game??

Was Gabe’s mom necessary? Michaela’s dad? Tegan’s wife?

Setting a reminder to watch in April.



This season was all over the place and rushed trying to close made up story lines. Asher being an informant since earlier season would've made more sense then bringing his family in this season.

The laurel show went on too long seasons prior with her whole damn family. I liked that Michaela meet her dad and wish that been explored or played out better last season vs now. I wish she wasnt so insufferable this season. Just annoying as hell.

I think its a dream too or Christopher is grown in the future. As much sh!t as I talked about Wes in the 1st two seasons I was happy to see ole long neck.


Im going to say this like I said about scandal. Im tired of these shows diminishing their black women leads and propping up others. They all are talking out their neck like crazy tp annalise when in the end she has no blood on her hands and was helping them get away with murder.

They did nate so wrong and I didnt like him turning his back on anna mae. There was no need for gabs mom. I couldn't stand her and annalise dialog and all this crying over Sam who we never gave a fawk about.


I hope the last half finishes strong bc whew chile.....the mess. The only people im liking about now is tegan and bonnie shmurda. Frank is on his bs. Hes been up laurel cooch all series long now shes gone you are in love with bonnie!?!?! We will see how deep that love is now that laurel will be back this last half of the series. Smdh.....but see ya in April lol
 

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Even though I knew he was gonna die after Oliver bashed misters head in. It was obvious he was dying a slow death from the blow. He was getting gray from the loss of blood. Him showing up to Bonnie’s was the red herring.

fµck these writers. This show always disrupts my Thursday nights. And fµck them for making us wait until April for answers.

I think you're right. No way someone is going to live after being stabbed in the back of the head. Thats why Oliver confessed and said he did it at the police station..cause he did. All of them were high so none of them had sense to realize and Asher is just plain stupid.


Also some of y'all are saying that Annalise's funeral in the future...why would they use a young picture of her and not one that would be "current"?
 

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So I watched it again and just doesn’t make sense that Wes would be alive though I love seeing Alfie. There are too many loose ends to tie up and where is Anna Mae’s mother? Eve? Bonnie? Why would he of all people be the special guest speaker? And how does Annalise being killed per his hashtag wrap things up? Wouldn’t it open more questions?

Pete has a lot to tie up in 6 episodes and I honestly don’t see how he’ll get it done winging things.

1. Where are Laurel and Christopher?
2. What did Teagan do to get the Castillo money?
3. Why is the fbi so focused on the one person who actually hasn’t murdered anyone? Conspiracy and covering up yeah but compare that to capital murder of an ada or beating an ada to death with your bare hands...
4. What’s the governor's end game?
5. What happens to Nate and his pursuit of what happened to his pops? (Who knew he killed a man in cold blood btw. Nate forgets Annalise got him off easy)
6. What happens to Bonnie Schmurda? Even though she was mad she still pointed out Annalise was the cleanest of them.
7. What’s up with Oliver and his strange behavior?
8. Who killed Doucheface?
9. Does NuWes find out more about his dead dad?
10. What happened to Xavier Castillo?

And so many other loose ends to tie up.
 

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So I have got to shave hair again because my hairline was pushed way back thanks to this episode. I have been telling everyone that Wes never died for years, but no one believed me. I think it was a set up by Wes, Laurel and Tegan. Killing Sam was an accident, but when Laurel and Wes found out she was pregnant they put everything in motion to get rid of Laurels family and keep Wes free. So with the help of her father henchman or probably Tegan, they faked Wes murder. Then Tegan knew that Annalise was the key to beat Laurels father and brother. It's Tegan, she knows where all the bodies are buried and wanted to get all the power. If you noticed the actors who played Wes and Sam, were kept on character list even after their characters died. I knew Wes would come back eventually he was kind of the Male lead in the first season. Pete also said in the past that he has already written that last episode of the serie. P.S.: Wes did look very dashing.
 
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So that stock money from the Castillo’s that Nate found when he believed Tegan was being shady...given in exchange for protecting Laurel?
 

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I'm commenting as I am watching, but where did all this love Frank has for Bonnie come from? I know they hooked up one time, but not more than him & Laurel. Wasn't he trying to be with Laurel a season or two ago?
 

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Also, I don’t think Asher was killed by Bonnie, Frank, etc.

I believe that blow to the head he initially survived from Oliver hitting him is what he succumbed to. The fact that he died just a few steps from entering his apartment tells me he was going home after everything but his injury was more severe than he imagined. Oliver was wearing Laurel’s cozy mittens when he used the weapon so I suppose that’s why his prints aren’t on the murder weapon

ETA: @mmmbop you just axed this theory. Good point
 
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There was too much blood for Asher to just die from the initial hit from Oliver. Plus it showed the fire iron hitting someone repeatedly & I believe someone did murder him. Gabe possibly? Gabe was looking good with the low cut too.

I got chills and almost cried when I saw Wes.

I am still standing by Annalise faked her death.
 

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I'm commenting as I am watching, but where did all this love Frank has for Bonnie come from? I know they hooked up one time, but not more than him & Laurel. Wasn't he trying to be with Laurel a season or two ago?

Hell, he was searching everywhere for her ass just 3 episodes ago.
 

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Hmmm okay. That beautiful shot we got of the camera entering the apartment building and walking up the stairs could have been through Asher’s eyes? I was thinking maybe it was him who knocked on his door but that doesn’t make any sense I guess. Gabriel’s reaction to whoever was at his door was very relaxed. A bloody Asher would get a different expression


I’m back to thinking Frank. Frank and Bonnie wanna drop the K5 and set up two of them for murder. They’re just saving theirs and Annalise’s ass now perhaps


Me making up theories that lead to nowhere is making me remember how much I truly enjoyed this show early on and how lacking it has been prior to this episode
 

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This season was so bad I almost decided not to watch this episode while I got ready for work like I usually do. I'm happy I stuck to my routine in the end, I might even rewatch the episode.

I think deep down - apart from being mad at his death - there was a part in most of us HTGAWM viewers that just knew Wes wasn't dead.

We had no solid reason to think so, there have been ZERO hints, except his death was almost too shocking to be true.

Also, they never resolved why he was meeting with Laurel's mum. If Tegan helped Laurel escape and Wes isn't dead, maybe there's someone in that family with a connect to help people disappear. Will explain why Tegan helped to, as an employee of the Castillos.
 

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Also, I don’t think Asher was killed by Bonnie, Frank, etc.

I believe that blow to the head he initially survived from Oliver hitting him is what he succumbed to. The fact that he died just a few steps from entering his apartment tells me he was going home after everything but his injury was more severe than he imagined. Oliver was wearing Laurel’s cozy mittens when he used the weapon so I suppose that’s why his prints aren’t on the murder weapon

ETA: @mmmbop you just axed this theory. Good point

agreed. I also think the fire poker with the blood splatter is another red herring. And not connected to Asher being killed.

I think another murder went down that we haven’t seen a flash forward for yet. Maybe Annalise going back to kill Nate. They keep emphasizing that she’s the only one with no blood on her hands.
 

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Damn. Asher really dead. He's been around this group long enough (4 whole ass years), to know well enough that snitches get stitches. He thought he was going to come out alive with Bonnie and Frank watching every move of the Keating 4? Asher died at the building though, so my money is on Gabe or Frank killing him.

Annalise has spent years trying to cover their dirt. I don't think she would've sold them out to save herself after all those years. Asher really played himself. I agree with the comments that Nate being the informant would've made more sense, but I don't think this was completely out of character for Asher. Nate pissed me tf off trying to come for Annalise. He's been placing blame on her for his own actions since the first season. He even blamed her for HIM stepping out on his wife while she was dying from cancer. I can't stand his bald head ass.

That video call from Laurel wasn't needed, but I am stunned at the arrival of Wes. I hope it isn't a dream sequence. Best episode of the season thus far.
 
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The writer of last night's episode said she loves Annalise and Nate together.:confused5 These writers are on shrooms. So Wes may be alive or it's his son in 20 some years or a dream, Asher is dead and supposedly,Annalise is going to die. So many questions...so little answers and just 6 episodes left.
 

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The writer of last night's episode said she loves Annalise and Nate together.:confused5 These writers are on shrooms. So Wes may be alive or it's his son in 20 some years or a dream, Asher is dead and supposedly,Annalise is going to die. So many questions...so little answers and just 6 episodes left.
:unsure: She needs to seek help. Nate is garbage! Annalise is not going to end up with Nate or a man period. Her flashbacks on the plane were essentially all traumatic except for the ones with Eve.
 

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:unsure: She needs to seek help. Nate is garbage! Annalise is not going to end up with Nate or a man period. Her flashbacks on the plane were essentially all traumatic except for the ones with Eve.
Right,that Nate and Annalise ship has sailed.
 

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I think Annalise will have a good ending. She wont die or be killed. I hope she will get to live her life in peace.

So many unanswered questions but 6 episodes is enough time to cover them all.
 

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Now that I’ve grabbed my snatched wig, I can start thinking about what happened a bit more clearly.

that really was so out of character for Asher. He’s been on that THIS was his family and that he’d do anything to protect them. If anything, he’d say “fµck y’all” to his mom and sis who abandoned him after his father’s death and ran back to Murder House to give them the deets to make a play. Honestly, I thought it’d be Connor. Every other season, he has a “we deserve to have horrible lives” mental break and I thought this year might finally be the time he sticks to his words.

I bet it is that Asher succumbed to his injuries and because the murder weapon is literally in the house, K2 + 1 get blamed. We just need the gap of what happened between Bonnie and Frank’s call and how Asher got to Gabe. We saw him take a last breath so we know Bonnie didn’t kill him, she smothers her victims. It wasn't Asher and probably not Frank who stopped by his place (too calm of a reaction from Gabe) so there’s a time chunk there between that interaction and how Asher ended up there.

And what is Oli now? This should have happened after they shot and deported that Pakistani classmate, not a season later. He’s so out of character and not really giving a reason why.

We still have no follow up on who Anna called (I’m thinking her bf from the app) or who she picked up/did on the way. They subtly didn’t show who was sitting in the front seats of the car or plane, passenger or driver.

Didn’t Anna already get tried for Sam’s murder? What did she go to prison for? And honestly after everything, the FBI better have complete concrete evidence since Anna basically took her own case to the Supreme Court and WON. Hearsay and coercion is not gonna do it, and all those kids would get the death penalty before Anna ever saw another cell.

I really want it to be Wes. I totally forgot they lost the body at the morgue. I even hope it was Wes who helped her escape. The only thing is Pete’s hashtag #WasItHim... why not say his name? Unless that was for west coast people.

What is the point of Nate, Gabe’s momma, Gabe (really, his story was done awhile ago)? And where was the henchlady who knocked at Anna’s door and working with Xavier? Michaela’s daddy who’s fronting Anna money? How are Connor’s parents gonna work into why his was chosen for the K5, which seems to be the parents are all the deciding factors? Sins of the father and all that, literally.
 

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Did my baby Wes kill Asher and Gabriel knew him all along? Whew! I squeeled like a pre-teen at a b2k concert when Wes emmerged. We all knew he wasn’t dead. Are Laurel and Wes Together in hiding???

Also here is my weekly question: who killed emmett?

Will there be any justice on this show?

at this point they need to give wes the rest of the episodes because that’s the only way to redeem this final season.

also maybe I missed something but why did the castillos and the governor begin working together and kill nate sr?

i still need more tea on teegan her character seems so underdeveloped.
 

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