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What do you think the twist is with Sam and Hannah?

  • Sam & Hannah had an incestuous relationship with Frank as the result

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • Sam is Wes's father

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Hannah was working with the Mahoneys and Sam knew

    Votes: 7 21.9%

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DC123

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So apparently the next episode (4/30) supposedly has the biggest twist of the series that involves Sam & Hannah.

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Thoughts?
 
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They had an incestuous relationship. Annalise called it out in season 1. The only thing beyond that is that they had a child or maybe Hannah was somehow involved in the death of Annalise's son via Frank.
 

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Voted for incest. (Or that she isn’t his sister at all!)

Could be the main reason Vivian didn’t want him around Gabriel. The affair was terrible, but it always felt deeper than him having an affair to me. She must have some serious dirt on him.
 

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I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)
 

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I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)

Isn’t Frank suppose to be in his 40s? I think he is way too old to be Hannah and Sam’s son.
 

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I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)

CONNOR?! Oh my....

What if Connor is Bonnie’s son
 

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I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)

Oooh that's a good one!
I figure Sam would have been about 45-50 by now , if he and his sister had a child together when they were teens Frank could fit that age range. Connor spin is good too! I cant wait!
 

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You’re right, it’s just something I would never even think about, not even writing a show, I don’t understand how something like that pops up in someone’s mind for entertainment
Because nothing new is under the sun, these shows are all true events in a large capacity. Reason they hire "consultants"
 

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Since incest is being implied I wouldn't be surprised but I don't see why Annalise would have such a strong reaction. Pete re-writing history by Sam being Wes's father or Hannah being involved in her son's death definitely would.
 
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I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)

Connor was chosen for his activism which appealed to Annalise. The real draw though was his activism towards LGBT issues. Annalise has struggled with her sexuality and owning it and Connor makes no apologies. I think she admires that about him and that's why she really chose him.
 

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Connor was chosen for his activism which appealed to Annalise. The real draw though was his activism towards LGBT issues. Annalise has struggled with her sexuality and owning it and Connor makes no apologies. I think she admires that about him and that's why she really chose him.

Bonnie picked Connor or so she says.
 

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Connor was chosen for his activism which appealed to Annalise. The real draw though was his activism towards LGBT issues. Annalise has struggled with her sexuality and owning it and Connor makes no apologies. I think she admires that about him and that's why she really chose him.
It rankles me though because it epitomizes that Connor is the show runner and writers' darling. None of them were chosen on their own merits except for their beloved Connor. Like dang, Michaela, who is demonstrably smarter than Connor, was chosen not because of her intelligence but due to her father. If Oliver is an FBI informant, that would be balm for how they have treated Connor with kid gloves.

Isn’t Frank suppose to be in his 40s? I think he is way too old to be Hannah and Sam’s son.
As of now, Frank is 32. If he weren't, the writers would come up with a forged birth certificate if their plans for the plot required it. They have not shown themselves to be above retroactively altering the plot for better or for worse.


What if Connor is Bonnie’s son
I would be down with this too. Loool if Bonnie has known the entire time, her indifference toward Connor is at least consistent with her character. If she hasn't, I can see Sam having pulled strings to make it happen. It would fit with the Sam apologism I have a gut feeling we are going to get with that episode about him where it turns out Sam was good and trying his best and it was big bad Hannah all along.
 

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Y'all keep fukking each other unprotected? Thats why yall getting wiped out.

How are we getting wiped out when we are still here boo boo? You do realize that straight people get HIV and every other STD right? You do realize that there are HIV meds that are keeping people alive? So alive that they live just as long as if they didn't have the disease right? They will probably outlive you. You do realize that heterosexual people die every second of every damn day? Do you think that you are special? Do you really think we care? As long as heterosexuals exist, gay people will exist.

#heterotears #bigotry #ignorance #goaway
 

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They had an incestuous relationship. Annalise called it out in season 1. The only thing beyond that is that they had a child or maybe Hannah was somehow involved in the death of Annalise's son via Frank.

I said in the watch thread that the theories that Frank is their secret son may not be far off base when you consider the precedent already set in the writing. There's another theory that Connor is their son, and that Sam convinced Annalise to pick him, thereby explaining what the ulterior movie of Connor being the Keating 5 is (else, Connor is the only one that got in on merit. That would be fitting for the favoritism the show's writers show toward him.)

Not if he was one of those “had him when I was 13 and mom sent me to live down south for the summer to hide it” babies lol

You’re right, it’s just something I would never even think about, not even writing a show, I don’t understand how something like that pops up in someone’s mind for entertainment

CONNOR?! Oh my....

What if Connor is Bonnie’s son

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Yikes. Not homophobia entering the chat on this beautiful Saturday evening. Come on now.
 

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It rankles me though because it epitomizes that Connor is the show runner and writers' darling. None of them were chosen on their own merits except for their beloved Connor. Like dang, Michaela, who is demonstrably smarter than Connor, was chosen not because of her intelligence but due to her father. If Oliver is an FBI informant, that would be balm for how they have treated Connor with kid gloves.
The ironic aspect about this is that it turned Connor and Oliver in two utterly superfluous characters. I've noticed this from the beginning - if Connor and Oliver where never introduced in the show, the main plots would be completely unaffected by it. The same goes for Michaela who's the black best friend trope to Connor most of the time - this is especially evident now. In the last episode her conversation with Solomon was juxtaposed to Oliver and Connor talking about how her decision affects them.
This also means that their storylines up to the end will be boring, useless and add nothing to the plot. They've been reduced to a minor nuisance to Annalise.
 

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The problem is that Hannah is so unimportant. She holds no position of influence to be able to manipulate a governor, the feds and an organized crime family.
The one thing she could be is manipulative. This is what i think Vivian is hinting at - that she was a strong negative influence on Sam.

Vivian said something about Hannah knowing Frank's family. I don't think he's her son and i don't think they're going with incest.
The thing is Annalise got Frank out of jail after Sam pressured her which means there's little sense in Hannah resenting Annalise in that angle even if she was jealous of her.
I didn't really remember how Sam got interested in Frank but google got me this:
Frank Delfino

Early 2005, Frank is in prison when the guards visit his cell and tell him that he has a visitor. The two guards then led Frank into the visitation room where Sam is waiting. Unaware who Sam is, Frank asks for his name and Sam tells him it's Dr. Keating and tells him to sit as he does. Sam tells him that his aunt Bev knew his sister in high school and that Frank's family is worried about him.

This is interesting because it implies Hannah and Frank's aunt are about the same age making it possible for Hannah to be his mother but i wonder if aunt Bev was his biological mother which Hannah knew. This would also explain why Frank's father seemingly resented him as a kid. This opens up the possibility of Sam being the father. But this only means Sam's always been a reckless ho. It's ultimately just a cheap meaningless twist. Hannah would figure into this as being the one who convinced Sam to give Frank away and than resented Annalise for reuniting them later.
 

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I would be mad if the twist is incest because Annalise said Hannah was overly attached to Sam in earlier seasons. That wouldn't be much of a big twist to me. I also think adding an incest storyline would make this show seem like such a damn soap opera.
If Vivian stayed while she knew Sam was having incestuous relations with his sister then Imma side-eye her, because why would it take Sam having an affair with Annalise to finally push you out the door?
 

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Frank's family definitely did something to Hannah but as someone has said, she has no influence or pull so how is she organizing the governor, the castillos, and fbi?

Also Xavier gave up information way too easily so there has to be more. Nate is annoying AF whew lord when he killed Xavier I was so pissed at how insufferable and hotheaded the writers have caused him to be.
 

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Hannah & Sam did it & Nate is their son. The Castillos adopted Nate. Nate is like Liam from Shameless & their inbreeding caused the recessive Black gene to become dominate. However Nate identifies as a White Mexican like Laurel that's why he switched up on Anna so fast. He killed Xavier for saying he'd sell out their dad. That's also why him & laurel are cool.
 

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