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yeah i like surprises and i dont mind the ending but it was wayyyyyy too much. way too much going on for the season finale. it was a super cram session
All that time wasted on Laurel....
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Omg I just watched it. Omg

Bravo Viola! She acted her ass from from episode 1 to the finale. Bravo! I'm going to miss her so much.

I love Analise omg.
 

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I still didn't like Laurel

Eventhough Michaela was trash, Conor was too so Oliver had no reason to be upset with her.

I'm confused about the Bonnie and Frank scene. How did Bonnie not realize she got shot at first?

I'm glad Nate didn't tell on Annalise for framing him for Sam's murder.

The flash foward to the future was kind of corny.

What happened with Annalise and Teagan?

I knew that wasn't going to be Wes.
 

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I still didn't like Laurel

Eventhough Michaela was trash, Conor was too so Oliver had no reason to be upset with her.

I'm confused about the Bonnie and Frank scene. How did Bonnie not realize she got shot at first?

I'm glad Nate didn't tell on Annalise for framing him for Sam's murder.

The flash foward to the future was kind of corny.

What happened with Annalise and Teagan?

I knew that wasn't going to be Wes.

Bonnie was too in shock so she didn't realize she got shot. This happens in real life.

I think Anna ended up with Teagan. There's a scene of them dancing together in old age.
 

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Laurel being right after Frank and Bonnie when it came to being "ride or die" for Annalise is laughable.
 

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did y’all notice how they strategically put that huge ring on Michaela’s middle finger so we couldn’t see whether or not she had on a wedding ring SMH

I hate how there’s so much left up for interpretation & for the most part, everyone’s theories are good
 

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The ending wasnt the best but was better than expected. Im glad Analise was free and lived to old age. It would have been nice if they had shown her settling down with Tegan orthough instead of it being so ambiguous. I wasn't upset that Frank and Bonnie died. I liked the characters but I don't think Frank would have ever been at peace after all he did and what was done to him I don't Bonnie would have either, so I just like to think of them dying with each other and holding hands in the after life. I am okay with Nates ending. Connor is an idiot,and. I don't find his actions that redeeming. It would have been different if he had took responsibility and never agreed to testify in the first place. Yeah he took his five years but he still participated in the prosection of Annalise. As for Mikayla, she did what was best for her. She could have refused to testify but would that have helped Analise's case considering Connor's testiomony. Would anyone have believed her over Connor? As for her being alone Oliver and laurel were not her friends in the first place. Im okay with Laurels ending.
 

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I just watched the finale. I thought they did a GREAT job with it! I was so emotional starting with Conner and Olivers original break up. The build up to seeing who Frank was gonna kill had me GLUED. Then the funeral switchoff with Wes as Christoff was BRILLIANT! I don't think I've ever been this happy with a finale... well done to the Norwalk crew.
 

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Can’t believe I cried at the last 30 seconds

as over this show as I was for like three seasons, this ending truly was great.
 

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The last few shots were Tyler Perry-esque, bad wigs and all. Were we supposed to play "guess the hands" with those shots showing everyone walking into the tunnel of light?

It's crazy that some of you idiots were so obsessed with long neck Wes to the point where Pete had to bring him back. He was an unlikeable boob. So was his "son" who looks exactly like him (lazy writing and lazy costume department) with his stupid fake Spanish accent. He annoyed the hell out of me in the last scene with that long neck at an angle like a curious giraffe. His reappearance added nothing to the finale except fan service to the deluded black female fans. Go ahead and groan me.
 

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Pete Nowalk said he left alot of things in the finale up to the viewers' interpretation and imagination...but for me, I would've liked if he gave us direct answers and closure, since it was the series finale and all, ugh.
I hate this new way of “open to interpretation” for movie and tv shows. It’s ridiculous! Also seems lazy
 

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Would’ve been better if laurel was shot and Annalise got to raise Christopher and THEN he followed in her footsteps, would’ve made a whole lot more sense. Should’ve ditched the incest SL as that did absolutely nothing and had frank get intel that the governor was gonna run to a non extradition country. He shoots her, ends up killing laurel and has to deal with that but ends up with Bonnie and gets over it and they have their own kid
 
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lmao how did you recognize the hands? this whole time i thought it was jesus hand she was holding while she was walking into the light. i was def high watching this last night. i missed everything. i need to watch again

I just screamed at you thinking it was Jesus!
 

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LMAO, my emotions are all over the place. It's like they wanted to be done with this show so badly, they just threw a few things together and didn't even care.

I'd really like a spinoff series. Please Pete, make it happen.

Also, I didn't understand the whole mentor thing. If that's supposed to be Baby Wes, he didn't know Annaliese.

It would have been great to see Frank tell Gabriel that Sam was his father too since he was going to end up dying anyway.

I don't get it.

I get why Frank didn't tell Gabriel. He felt like Bonnie burdened him with a lifetime of pain by telling him that. Like she took the pain he already lived with and made it 10 times worse because now he knows his own father asked him to murder someone and manipulated him over and over again. Gabriel had his own issues with Sam's legacy already. To then reveal even more hurtful truths of the craziness that he was born from would be cruel in Frank's opinion. So he gave him a bag of money, because he is his brother, that same bag of money he had been holding on to for killing Annalise's son and their own brother, and hoped that he would be able to do what Frank was never able to do and start a good life. Then he proceeded to murder the governor in plain sight so that he could commit suicide by cop. Frank wasn't murdered, Frank committed suicide, and just like the mess his life had become he took someone with him that he didn't intend to die. sh!t wasn't Frank ready to take out Gabriel at one point? Frank would have then killed yet another brother. You know he was spinning with guilt just thinking about it. What good would it have been to have told Gabriel when he knew he was intending to die? They would never know each other. There would only be more loss for Gabriel to deal with. So he gave his brother the money that he thought would change his own life at one time but instead it ruined it and left him with guilt and in a debt he would never be able to repay to Annalise, and he hoped it would help Gabriel become free like he could never be.

As for the mentoring thing, I'm guessing Annalise and Laurel stayed in some sort of contact, especially if she was with Tegan for a time who had her own twisted relationship with the Castillo family. Connor clearly lost touch as did Michaela. Christopher looked at his mamma and asked who those people were, which means she probably didn't even speak of them to him.
 
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I binged the last part of the season and I think I enjoyed it more that way. I was able to see the overall picture of where they were going versus just watching it one episode at a time.

The only important character to me was Annalise and she was exonerated, freed, and got to live out the end of her life happy with many lovers. I actually cried when Viola was doing her closing argument about taking the mask off. I guess I got all that I could ask for.

I must be the only one not mad at Michaela for choosing herself.. More black women need to do it.. and I am happy a character like that was able to exist. I also hope that Tegan found a happy ending as it seems that Ana spent the end of her life with Eve.

Bonnie and Frank's death was horrible but I don't think there was any way that either one of them could live a truly happy life with all that had happened to them. Sam didn't want Frank with Bonnie because he knew that he was a messed up incest baby. In the end, they were the only two that could actually understand and provide comfort to each other. So dying together was as good an ending as possible for them.

The rest of the characters can kick rocks.
 
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Why they have Annalise looking the most aged though.... :arrogant

I guess they cut old Nate from the final cut. Amirah said she filmed scenes for the funeral too. I guess Tegan being in the audience with Eve giving the eulogy would confirm if they did have something it did not last (thus Tegan's status being ambiguous):spinny I hope they release all of the deleted scenes.
 
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Annalise looks worse in the pics than she did in the actual scenes [to me]. They really piled on the "old folk" makeup SMH.
 

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My face was shook at the ending montage lol! It ended well for what it was. It was nice that Laurel let Annalise be Christopher's mentor and stuff like that because she missed that chance with Wes. Alfred Enoch is fine as fµck, I hope we get to see him in more roles soon.

Still don't understand the whole sh!t with Who Killed Annalise, like what was the purpose of that just to let her die of Old Age lmao! oh well.
 

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Nah that's just some "evil Michaela being Michaela" sh!t. I liked the fact that she wasn't a perfect black woman who didn't see the light in the end and become an angel. As in real life, some folks stay the same until the day they die and do not change. Michaela told everybody she was about herself, FIRST so I'm not surprised how she turned out especially with her horrible childhood (no excuse but I understand).

I don't know about your experience but there are a lot of black folks like Michaela (in the words of Funky Dineva) "who black like this (points to the top of hand) and not like dis (points to the inside of hand)". Or "Skinfolk ain't always our kinfolk"!

She probably got her dad to hook her up and it looked like maybe she became a judge. I wanted to see if she adopted those girls or got married and divorced.

Nobody is going to prison when there is an immunity deal offered unless they're taking that sentence for their child(ren).

Everything is all good until the authorities come knocking, then every person will take whatever deal is offered unless they know with certainty they can win at trial.

The characters on this show all had symbiotic relationships that were always going to implode. They formed an enmeshed family dynamic whose foundation was rooted in childhood abuse, dysfunction, mental instability, and toxicity while covering up murders and crimes.

The main cast of characters had good backstories that would've enhanced the show if they had a better showrunner and writing staff. This is a very good cast when you look at network television casts.

Viola should've had more Emmy, Golden Globe, and SAG nominations for this role. Lisa should've had a supporting nomination or two for Bonnie. The same could be said for other actresses/actors on this show. Pete never put them in a position to showcase their abilities, and wasted the show's potential. Pete turned what was what a show with an interesting premise into a silly soap opera.

I hope the entire cast gets good residual checks.
 

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I also hope that Tegan found a happy ending as it seems that Ana spent the end of her life with Eve.

Eve said at the funeral that Annalise did not choose her. The camera then jump cuts to Tegan. They are later seen dancing together, and a picture of their first date is on Annalise's funeral board. They nbever say how long it was, but at some point, Tegan *did* get the girl.

IIRC, the next time we see Annalise, she is drinking heavily. We never see Tegan again (young or old). Since Pete is a choose-your-own-ending hack, here's a way to satisfy both ships: Annalise chose Tegan, Tegan died (apparently quite young) and then Annalise got back with Eve until her death.

I don't see Viola not winning an Emmy this year. Charlie Weber should be up for Best Supporting Actor - his portrayal of Frank in the finale was amazing.
 

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Eve said at the funeral that Annalise did not choose her. The camera then jump cuts to Tegan. They are later seen dancing together, and a picture of their first date is on Annalise's funeral board. They nbever say how long it was, but at some point, Tegan *did* get the girl.

IIRC, the next time we see Annalise, she is drinking heavily. We never see Tegan again (young or old). Since Pete is a choose-your-own-ending hack, here's a way to satisfy both ships: Annalise chose Tegan, Tegan died (apparently quite young) and then Annalise got back with Eve until her death.

Yeah, I was confused by that old white hand. I just assumed it was eve. Eve said something like she was happy the times when Annalise did choose her, so I assumed they were an elderly couple. But like you said, knowing Pete, he wanted to appease both fanbases.
 

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I only caught the last 15 minutes of the show. I wanted to see how the Wes thing played all. All I could do is roll my damn eyes...especially with “Christophe” closing the show (or whatever his son name is, I done forgot now!)

Pete can kiss my ass with that wack ending. You should’ve never killed Wes off just to call the actor back and play his son with a Latin accent. Thanks but no thanks, I will always pay him dust for ruining my former favorite show!

I don’t even know what was happening this season and who was on trial for what. Frank and Bonnie dying blows me too, I mean...I guess their stories had to end that way? The writing just been some trash since mid season 2.

Nate got a whole lil community center now? Didn’t he beat a man to death or some ish? Chile...and all that old makeup they had everyone in was awful! I guess the writers of HTGAWM wrote this finale the same night Courtney wrote the Power finale.

I’m sorry, I don’t mean to bust this happy thread. I am a OG fan of the show, well up to season 3. Kudos to Viola, I am sure she was great on this episode.
 

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The writing just been some trash since mid season 2.
This is what I said...the writing started to not be as good around this time for me and definitely not as good season 3 and beyond. I stuck it out to end though even after they killed off Wes.
 

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I didn’t make it to the finale yet, but I’m shocked at this season so far. Can’t believe they turned on Anna and she is not playing with them, she is coming at them hard, as she should. I’m on her side. Bbl after I’m done with the season. I mean series, wow.
 
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Now that I’ve done some more thinking, it would’ve made sense to ditch the incest storyline and have NATE shoot the governor. After all she’s responsible for “MY POPS” death. Then the bullet should’ve accidentally hit laurel and with Christopher being an only child and Oliver being willed to be his parent, he allows Annalise to care for him since he’s devastated now.
 

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@Maxine Shaw @Pearlfection :laugh2 The debate on social media is real and I don't even know why. Everyone wins. The funeral board was missing a lot of people that Annalise loved so I don't even know what the picture is supposed to mean. Even after Pete confirmed that the hands represented different people I'm still seeing that Annalise and Tegan grew old together but she died comments. This is why Pete never should have introduced the crush plot if there not going to be resolution within the season. I think that's why he never wrote present days scenes with Eve...
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Charlie's best scenes have always been with Viola. He has definitely been underutilized in terms of what's he's capable of. I remember being pleasantly surprised in the scene where Annalise tells Frank to kill himself.

@Dorothy Zbornack I think Nate should have died too. Everyone else who killed someone was.
 
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@Maxine Shaw @Pearlfection :laugh2 The debate on social media is real and I don't even know why. Everyone wins. Even after Pete confirmed that the hands represented different people I'm still seeing that Annalise and Tegan grew old together but she died comments. This is why Pete never should have introduced the crush plot if there not going to be resolution with in the season. I think that's why he never wrote present days scenes with Eve...
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Charlie's best scenes have always been with Viola. He has definitely been underutilized in terms of what's he's capable of. I remember being pleasantly surprised in the scene where Annalise tells Frank to kill himself.

Yeah, I took it as Annalise loved and was loved by many people. Tegan was clearly a moment and then like Anna was known to do she circled around to another lover.
 

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Yeah, I took it as Annalise loved and was loved by many people. Tegan was clearly a moment and then like Anna was known to do she circled around to another lover.
Exactly. I think it's a fair assumption that Annalise possibly dated Tegan (or maintained a friendship) and others in her long life but Eve has always been established as the one who got away.
 
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Exactly. I think it's a fair assumption that Annalise possibly dated Tegan and others in her long life but Eve has always been established as the one who got away.

I hate this stupid leaving things to the imagination. You're the writer! Tell us what happened to the characters. Regardless, I agree. This conclusion makes the most sense to me with what we knew of her character.
 

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I cried
I ugly cried
Everytime I rewatch final scene.... I ugly cry..Wesley, Christopher.... PAPI :( :(:( What a scene, what a moment, what a connection.

Man Proff Keating SALUD , you overtook Dr Mark Green (from ER) as my favourite TV persona of all time, you beauty, your finesse, your grace, your power, your big heart to stand by those fifty eleven children time after time.

RIP Bonnie Schmurda & Sexy frank.. ya'll were ride or die till the very end.

MAMA Keating.... you were the real OG of this series.

Nathaniel... the moment I saw you blowing out Anna Mae's back, I was hooked

I am going to damn miss this show. Wheww, here goes another ugly cry. :( <3
 

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Ok, so Im done with the season now, and OMG!! I hate that Frank and Bonnie died, that almost got me. They had me thinking Wes was alive too, but really it was just his son lol

I didnt like the incest story at all bc it wasnt believable, Frank wouldve been slow, but at least its not as bad as Pretty Little Liars A team transgender evil twin thing. :joy:

Glad that Annalise won the case, but I hate that Michaela had to be the only one still against her lying too. She was all alone at the end as a consequence. Got her career, but nothing else. And who was Annalise with at the end? I know it was a woman, but what woman? Was it Tegan? Also, did anyone see Tegan at the funeral?
 
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