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Spin-off of: White Hispanic Journalist Writes Tasteless Article About Black Female Murder Victim Breonna Taylor

I hate the term "Spicy" White, especially when referencing Hispanic or Latinx people. It does nothing but create the illusion that these are non-White people or "people of color". They spend all of their lives trying to look Whiter and we continue to give them spice to keep them in close proximity to us. Why?

These are regular degular White people with some curls, light tan, and maybe some features that look different- that is ALL. Nothing more. They may look ethnic but they identify as White. Or they WANT to identify as White.

Then when these White Hispanics/Latinx people SHOW their racism, we say, "these spicy whites think they are White!"

THEY ARE WHITE PEOPLE. What is spicy about them besides a little texture to their hair? Olive skin is spicy now? Fuller lips and fuller noses are spicy now? Can we stop? POC solidarity does NOT exist - let them remain in the unseasoned aisle where they want to be.

To YOU they are spicy but to themselves they are WHITE.

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I have decided that whites now come in "spicy" and "classic".

I swear you always make me laugh when I wanna stay mad! Lmao

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I hate the term "Spicy" White, especially when referencing Hispanic or Latinx people. It does nothing but create the illusion that these are non-White people or "people of color". They spend all of their lives trying to look Whiter and we continue to give them spice to keep them in close proximity to us. Why?
That's not what most of us are doing when we refer to white and others as spicy white. We are only talking about their features/aesthetic as being spicy white. Most of us who us the term don't see these people as allies, trustworthy, p.o.c, etc. I as well as many fonts I've seen use the term in a joking, condescending, tongue-in-cheek kind of way. We ain't claiming them hoes to be in proximity to us or them, like wtf.
 
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Some people say that light skin people are still black,but cannot fathom darker skinned people can be white.

People downplay the diversity of white people.

This!!!!

White people can come in ALL SHADES just like Black people can come in ALL SHADES.

Keep them OVER THERE in aisle 3 with the rest of em!

When the census results come out, many people will finally SEE the division.
 

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White people come in only one flavor...mayo

LSA still won't let us use the white spreadable condiment to describe our clear brethren, eh?
 

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Can’t speak for others but I don’t use spicy white for Hispanic people. I use it for balkans, Persians and Other non-anglo Saxon Caucasians and it’s usually in reference to their looks and nothing more.
 

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Soooooo, the whites disagree with that assertion
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I don't like the tone of that post but I'm using it to highlight a point. They're mixed race and I will not validate their (or anyone else's) delusion of whiteness

POC solidarity does NOT exist
The only part of your post I agree with.
 

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I thought spicy white referred to Italians,Greeks,Iranians,northern Indians,and Arabs?

Spicy white is a term for white people that look "exotic".

And Iran, Northern India and some Arab countries are in Asia and they are Asian. I guess people should be asking why we have to call East/Southeast Asians "Asian" and not "yellow people" but they can still call us black and every racist term in the book. I mean, Asian isn't really a "race", because then "European", "North American" and other continental demonyms should be "races" too.
 
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Spicy white is a term for white people that look "exotic".

And Iran, Northern India and some Arab countries are in Asia and they are Asian. I guess people should be asking why we have to call East/Southeast Asians "Asian" and not "yellow people" but they can still call us black and every other racist term in the book.


GeograpHic wise they are Asian.
But they are of the Caucasian race.
Just like people from Morocco.
 

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I like "spicy white"

Because it admits that these people are ultimately white.

Arabs
Mediterraneans
White Jews
Greeks & Italians
White Hispanics
Diluted Indigenous peolle

These are WHITE people, so sick of the POC term. It means NOTHING. All those groups are racist as fµck, and have nothing to do with black people.

But black folks wanna claim and be adjacent to these folks. When will we learn?
 

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Spicy white still white.. that’s just how my knowingly ignorant ass describe them white people that have cultural backgrounds. (Ex: Turkish, Dominican/ PR, you smell meee?!)
 

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This has nothing to do with wanting hispanics to be black adjacent. It's just reality.

With what white women were all these south American countries breeding this white population with?

To quote myself...
Nope. Not what I support at all. To be mixed is to look mixed. They don't look white, they look mestiza. With what white women where they building these all white families with?

Maternal admixture and population structure in Mexican-Mestizos based on mtDNA haplogroups. - PubMed - NCBI

Finally, the comparison of paternal and maternal lineages provided additional information concerning the gender bias admixture, mating patterns, and population structure in Mestizos throughout the Mexican territory.

This is particularly interesting in Mestizos, which constitute the main population in Mexico (∼93%) resulting from post-Columbian admixture between Spaniards, Amerindians, and African slaves, principally.

Admixture and population structure in Mexican-Mestizos based on paternal lineages

In agreement with historical records, these results confirm a strong gender-biased admixture history between European males and Native American females that gave rise to Mexican-Mestizos.


Meaning the remaining 7% of Mexicans are European, african descent or other. Majority being mestizos like the rest of South and central America (save those who immigrated generations after- which make up a small percent of these countries populations). Not white.
 

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I consider spicy whites to be the whites that Anglos don't perceive as caucasian even though they are: dark-featured eastern Europeans and some asians.

The Kashmiri people from the Kashmiri Valley (Indian region) are "spicy white"; caucasians
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Eh I use spicy white to downgrade them from thinking they are "POC", not to upgrade them from white lol. I mean, white is the operative word in that phrase.
 

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It is because white people (American whites) dont view them as white really. They are white but with a qualifier "hispanic white". It is white, but American whites make sure to put that distinction because they consider themselves pure and Hispanic whites ----even if they look like spaniards ----might have something in their blood that is non-white, and traditionally being white in the US meant you were purely white western european.
 

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I don't really think the term people of color should be used at all. It diminishes the role, influence, uniqueness and power of black people and their special status as the founders, builders and creators of America, Americana and American culture and justice.

Just because they are not black doesn't instantly make them white either. I don't use the term spicy white because calling those ethnic non-whites, non-black, people white fulfills their dream.

Calling Iranians white and other types of Asians and latinos who are all mixed ethnicity people, white is like calling biracial black/white spicy white (on average they are probably more genetically white and many are white passing too).

I've encountered similar views from whites who don't know any blacks, when I would say I'm the only black person here, they'd literally point to any dark skin Iranian or Indian and say they are black, but look they are darker than you!


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I can't see the average white person looking at a group of people, many who are darker than blacks seriously thinking they are white. Several Iranians I went to school with were darker than blacks in the school. Only they think they are white, but from what I saw whites viewed them as not white and were hostile towards them.
 

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just want to remind everyone most of the slaves crossing the atlantic were dropped off in the caribbean and brazil, this will forever be a fact.

i get the sense some of you want to be overly-simplistic because you hate your local hispanic/latino.
 

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Eh I use spicy white to downgrade them from thinking they are "POC", not to upgrade them from white lol. I mean, white is the operative word in that phrase.
I'm telling you, if you tell these people they are white, they will love you for the rest of their life, they want to be white soooo bad. POC doesn't exist to me, it is a fake term used to exploit blacks and benefit probationary whites.
 

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just want to remind everyone most of the slaves crossing the atlantic were dropped off in the caribbean and brazil, this will forever be a fact.

i get the sense some of you want to be overly-simplistic because you hate your local hispanic/latino.

What does that have to do with this topic? And most people know that. And most of those slaves who were shipped to the Carribean/South America died within 5 to 10 years of landing from being worked to death.

So I never understand why people think they are really saying something when they say most ships came to the carribean or south america. WE know. That woman in the OP is MExican and not black at all.
 

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just want to remind everyone most of the slaves crossing the atlantic were dropped off in the caribbean and brazil, this will forever be a fact.

i get the sense some of you want to be overly-simplistic because you hate your local hispanic/latino.
I think they are trying to make it clear that probationary whites are not "fellow POC" which is true, POC is a myth, every human has a color, even pink people and gingers have red color or pink color or whatever. There is no POC. There are just blacks, and white and probationary whites
 

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I'm telling you, if you tell these people they are white, they will love you for the rest of their life, they want to be white soooo bad. POC doesn't exist to me, it is a fake term used to exploit blacks and benefit probationary whites.

Listen I already know. THEY want to be "POC" when it benefits them, and they want to be white when it benefits them.
 
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Ridiculous when they themselves call white people Anglo, makes sense because those Anglos are looks wise and culturally totally different. Next!

ETA: POC, please stop it already : unamused:
 

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Some people say that light skin people are still black,but cannot fathom darker skinned people can be white.

People downplay the diversity of white people.
No such thing as a white person really.

Even the term caucasian is sketchy. The term is used by some scientists to describe people from global ethnic groups who have similar skeletal structure; Horners are sometimes included in that group.

If you're going by the literal definition of caucasian then it's just referring to the Caucus Mountains that stretch from Europe to Asia and was thought by white scientists to be the origin of modern humans.

There really is no biological "race," just different and distinct ethnic groups across different regions worldwide.

I would disregard the concept completely if not for the fact that, socially, people do embrace the concept of "white people" and it is built deep into our society and weaponized against black people.

The funny thing is whites (especially Europeans) are fully aware of their ethnic distinctions but, they flex on black people as "whites" because they want that white privilege. Go to Scotland or Ireland and tell them they're practically the same as an Englishman and you'll probably get a reaction like this:

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