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I hate mainstream music. I hate what happens to music that is watered down for the masses.

Do you not realize how pretentious you sound lol?

Most artists have some A&R development before they get off the ground but people don’t like it when they can obviously see the puppet strings. When it’s done well, good artist development feels organic even though it isn’t. In this day and age
when young artists are building their own celebrity and fan base in a self directed fashion online well before they get picked up by a label, someone making music like HER feels even more contrived than normal. That’s why she’s getting the dreaded industry plant label. I feel like I can see the guitar and deportment lessons when she’s on stage.

Like I said before the music, image and marketing chosen for her feels like a middle age record exec’s idea of “good” music vs something a 23 year old came created and connects with.

for the bolded, who you see out here building up “organic” followings, bcus the idea that anyone can the way you said is a fantasy. but still, I’m curious as to who you are referring to bcus I don’t see none of that

I don’t think having a&r development means having “puppet strings”. You need to construct your vision and who exactly you are as an artist before being released out into the world, where if you don’t have neither of those, ppl will grow tired of you.
 

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You are mental. You need help. You have this weird obsession with HER where you promote her and boast about her but throw shade and drag her too.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you were apart of her PR team. I agree HER is talented and can sing well but she she leaves a lot to be desired despite all of that.

Lets not act like her awards weren’t basically given to her either. You also don’t have to shade other current artists to get your point across because as crazy and auto tuned Summer is, she still makes good music and writes too and she has been just as successful if not more and it didn’t take over ten years.
 
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HER is very talented with a beautiful voice but she’s so boring to me I can’t listen to her. I do wish her the best.
 

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industry snoozefest/plant who has been around at least 10yrs and still no one cares. yes i'm irritated bc she fµcked up Jhene's song B.S. thank God for Kehlani's remix.
 

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Do you not realize how pretentious you sound lol?



for the bolded, who you see out here building up “organic” followings, bcus the idea that anyone can the way you said is a fantasy. but still, I’m curious as to who you are referring to bcus I don’t see none of that

I don’t think having a&r development means having “puppet strings”. You need to construct your vision and who exactly you are as an artist before being released out into the world, where if you don’t have neither of those, ppl will grow tired of you. Constructing that with people more experienced than you doesn’t hurt and shouldnt be looked down upon

Anyone thinking mainstream artists have an "organic" following don't understand how the industry works.

She is signed to a major label. Of course there's going to be people somewhat pulling strings, it's the nature of the business.
 

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@Hopper
You are mental. You need help. You have this weird obsession with HER where you promote her and boast about her but throw shade and drag her too.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you were apart of her PR team. I agree HER is talented and can sing well but she she leaves a lot to be desired despite all of that.

Lets not act like her awards weren’t basically given to her either. You also don’t have to shade other current artists to get your point across because as crazy and auto tuned Summer is, she still makes good music and writes too and she has been just as successful if not more and it didn’t take over ten years.
I already admitted to my obsession and former crush on her imo she was an Angel..I got over my crush. I wish I was paid for promoting her but she’s a great talent that needs to be talked about instead of these trash ass artist she’s the real deal.. I’m over my crush so I’m praising one some bc it’s gonna be my last I have a guy feeling about that!
 
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Do you not realize how pretentious you sound lol?



for the bolded, who you see out here building up “organic” followings, bcus the idea that anyone can the way you said is a fantasy. but still, I’m curious as to who you are referring to bcus I don’t see none of that

I don’t think having a&r development means having “puppet strings”. You need to construct your vision and who exactly you are as an artist before being released out into the world, where if you don’t have neither of those, ppl will grow tired of you.
Most artist don’t come to a label as a blank slate anymore like they did back in the day. Sorry they just don’t. The first thing labels want to know about young artist now is do they already have fan engagement, even if they’re just a local artist. Next is how easy will it be to build it to the next level. That’s the jumping off point. After that they may be sat aside for 2-5 years of artist development. But the days of walking off the street into a music exec’s office saying “my momma said I can sing” with no fans, no shows, no nothing and having a record out 1 year later is over.

Also, I never said A&Ring is bad. I said good A&Ring should feel organic even when it isn’t. It should feel like it comes from the artist even when they have no hand in it. That’s just best practice. Half the icons of the past 5 decades have images created by someone else but it works because it doesn’t feel like it to the audience.
I feel like I can see Clive Davis’ hands all over her. It’s over shadowing HER natural talent.
 
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Most artist don’t come to a label as a blank slate anymore like they did back in the day. Sorry they just don’t. The first thing labels want to know about young artist now is do they already have fan engagement, even if they’re just local artist. Next is how easy will it be to build it to the next level. That’s the jumping off point. After that they may be sat aside for 2-5 years of artist development. But the days of walking off the street into a music exec’s office saying “my momma said I can sing” with no fans, no shows, no nothing and having a record out 1 year later is over.

Also, I never said A&Ring is bad. I said good A&Ring should feel organic even when it isn’t. It should feel like it comes from the artist even when they have no hand in it. That’s just best practice.

no one comes with a blank slate, but who do you know had to build a following before signing with a label, bcus almost everyone I know has been signed to a label since the jump. It doesn’t seem you know how the music business works, cuz no one is “organically” building up any fanbases lol
 

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no one comes with a blank slate, but who do you know had to build a following before signing with a label, bcus almost everyone I know has been signed to a label since the jump. It doesn’t seem you know how the music business works, cuz no one is “organically” building up any fanbases lol
:emoji_joy:If you only knew...
With that I’ll leave you with your opinions and poor reading comprehension.
 

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:emoji_joy:If you only knew...
With that I’ll leave you with your opinions and poor reading comprehension.

I asked you a question about who artists you know had organic followings before being signed to a label and yet you never answered and only gave me this....
 

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I listened to her first major mixtape (that somehow won a Grammy) and it was giving interludes. The other one she put out with the song “could’ve been,” Bryson Tiller ate her UP on her own track. I need a switch in tone, some emotion, more interesting production, and some authenticity to care
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I already admitted to my obsession and former crush on her imo she was an Angel..I got over my crush. I wish I was paid for promoting her but she’s a great talent that needs to be talked about instead of these trash ass artist she’s the real deal.. I’m over my crush so I’m praising her again u til I see her with her new man! Lol her send me 5k I put a lot of ppl up on u I’m talking ppl that bought ur singles :)
She has all this backing by the industry and all these nominations and awards thrown at her I’m sure it’ll get redundant.

Maybe let her music do the talking and let the general public decide who they like instead of forcing her down our throats.

I can’t understand the rest of your post but you need to chill. The delusion is kind of disturbing.:arrogant
 

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She still wears glasses but the lenses are more clear now


You lost me at dark skin

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She's a brown-skinned girl. I called her dark in comparison to the plethora of light-skinned/bleached chicks she is competing against in that colorist industry. Please stop. I am sick of you all always trying hard to discredit a brown-skinned Black woman's hue just because her hair is straight.

I have a cousin who is as dark as Lupita Nyongo but she has long bone-straight hair like an East Indian. And she's ADOS African American. Does that make her less dark skinned because her hair is straight and her features are small? You all have archaic, racist, outdated ideologies around African phenotypes.
 

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She is extremely talented and can actually sing LIVE unlike SZA who is extremely overrated.

I also think people call her boring because she’s no as sexualized as SZA, Summer walker and some of the other r&b girls. But i also think that what makes her stand out.
 

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She is extremely talented and can actually sing LIVE unlike SZA who is extremely overrated.

I also think people call her boring because she’s no as sexualized as SZA, Summer walker and some of the other r&b girls. But i also think that what makes her stand out.

SZA is both sexualized and associates with dark magick. Sadly, those two things are what's in with thei generation. They like their thots demonic and being side-chicks. It's more relatable and exciting to them. Plus, I think SZA is being pushed because she's probably doing all kinds of nasty, perverted sh!t behind the scenes and since she's open with dark magick, that's probably giving her leverage.
 

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She’s a great artist, I just haven’t gotten into her music..she is boring. I use to feel the same way about Jhene but I’m just now getting into her music and it’s good.
 

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I used to be a fan of hers (I liked one of her performances at the bet awards) but her musical output is very same-y. She just pumps out singles hoping one of them will stick instead of, you know, crafting an album with unique sounds and storytelling.

and the way she sings is not conducive to have a full, clear voice. She sings through her nose a lot of the times. Drop your jaw girl!
 

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I think what you’re saying is true for a lot of black r&b women artist but not HER. She’s a mixed raced woman with long curly hair and not dark skinned by any ones measure but maybe the whitest white folks. I would say a actual dark skinned mono racial black woman would not get the industry backing and Grammy stages or tour spots HER gets with no organic audience at all. Nor could she dress like her or play guitar on singles. She’s created by Clive Davis who brought us the screeching musical stylings of Alicia Keys. No monoracial black woman could screech their way through a career for a decade like she has and still be working.

But none of that has anything to do with her music being very generic and boring. There are things to sing about besides strip clubs and ass clapping but it doesn’t make anyone who bothers to do that actually interesting.

Ugh... :sick :poop
 

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Ari Lennox >>>>> Sza >>> HER

I can’t wait for Ari’s new album. Shea Butter baby was so good and deserves more recognition.
 

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The frustration concerning H.E.R. isn't necessarily her but the machine behind her. She's hailed as this child prodigy but has failed to garner any major traction for music alone post debut.

From the gate, she was granted a Grammy darling and a legend in the making. She won a damn Grammy from a mixtape. To put that in comparison, SZA was nominated for 7 awards for a smash hit album yet left empty-handed.

I personally have nothing against H.E.R. as I am rooting for her; however, her music in itself is basic as fµck. She's been in Lauryn Hill cos play but can't get one of her records to take off.

Her entire musical identity thus far screams pretentious.

Perfectly said. Her team has engineered accolades for her but when you look at the music’s performance on the charts and streams, it’s not adding up
 

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no one comes with a blank slate, but who do you know had to build a following before signing with a label, bcus almost everyone I know has been signed to a label since the jump. It doesn’t seem you know how the music business works, cuz no one is “organically” building up any fanbases lol
I think HER paid her dues in more ways than one. She’s was a “child” in the industry trust me she got on bc she didn’t run her mouth about something. I bet if we knew what she had to really do to get on we’d be shock by the ppl
She had to do “business” with but not shocked and what they had her doing!
 

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She has all this backing by the industry and all these nominations and awards thrown at her I’m sure it’ll get redundant.

Maybe let her music do the talking and let the general public decide who they like instead of forcing her down our throats.

I can’t understand the rest of your post but you need to chill. The delusion is kind of disturbing.:arrogant
Her older stuff is wine drinking & relax music!
 
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Ari Lennox's debut
While i have nothing against HER, they keep saying she makes traditional grown folk R&b and I disagree. Ari Lennox music is more Traditional grownfolk type R&b, Ari Lennox even has real instruments in her tracks.
 

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Both Jorja Smith and Ari Lennox's debut albums are miles ahead HER's artistically, but LSA ain't ready for that conversation.

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They have a few good songs not whole albums. HER a couple bad songs and entire albums u can play all the way through with I’m talking older eps not the new stuff!
 
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While i have nothing against HER, they keep saying she makes traditional grown folk R&b and I disagree. Ari Lennox music is more Traditional grownfolk type R&b, Ari Lennox even has real instruments in her tracks.
It’s overly xesual not as discreet as her but ion like comfortable by her or a couple of her more xesual songs like do to me it’s a few of them I can’t name but “every kinda way” yeah she was too young to being writing like that imo!
 
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You’re deaf bc if u listen to Damaged and her previous ep I’ll wait until u find an artist that makes adult music u can chill & drink wine too.. I’m. Done she’s not paying me but if an artist makes 90% hood song show them love than these hacks with 2 hot tracks on an album and the rest suck her might have 4 or 5 songs I don’t like out of like 60.. food for thought!
I’m not deaf. I’ve listened to her music. I prefer Ari Lennox to chill and drink wine to.
You are demented and bias.
This will be my last time replying. I can barely grammatically understand your replies either.
 

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I’m not deaf. I’ve listened to her music. I prefer Ari Lennox to chill and drink wine to.
You are demented and bias.
So this will be my last time replying. I can barely grammatically understand none of your replies either.
Name a few songs by Ari has that’s the can listen to that’s discrete. Like in Damaged Her states “giving me life all through the night” which means busting nuts in her but it’s discreet. Ari needs meds and kinda a butter face like Sza!
 

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HER is not for everybody, but she really is super talented. she has one of the best "low key" voices in the game, imo. i can see how ppl can say shes boring though. its not too many songs of hers that get a lot of replay from me. but i've always chalked that up to me never diggin deep into her discography, but yall goin in lol

my thing is, if yall the same ones who somehow made jhene aiko same exact song making ass a thing, i'm not sure i can take ur opinions on HER serious
 

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Anyways idk what y’all like cause one minute y’all swear y’all want artist to be like they used to be and that’s strictly promote their music and not drama and always tweeting, on social media over sharing but when you get an artist that is exactly like the old days, private, mystique, no drama y’all hating on her.

HER is for a bomb artist, strictly about her business you don’t hear her saying crazy stuff, y’all can’t find nothing about her past to cancel her about (stupid to do anyways but y’all do it so)
She’s actually talented and don’t make vulgar music


Like what’s not to like? Y’all the reason Ariana grande can make this unseasoned ass rnb album and outsell our black girls cause YALL black women tear down each other so bad. Damn. She can sing, write, guitar etc. what more? Black women artist have to work so hard, twice as hard, just to be loved by their own people. Meanwhile Taylor Switft can’t sing or dance and the biggest pop star ever. Whew Chile y’all not ready
 

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