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While i have nothing against HER, they keep saying she makes traditional grown folk R&b and I disagree. Ari Lennox music is more Traditional grownfolk type R&b, Ari Lennox even has real instruments in her tracks.
Im mad these young kids and the PR delegate in this thread trying to play people like they don't know music when they're trying to defend HER. How ignorant and pretentious.

I know my classics and I also know the current trends pretty deep, and HER fails to stand out from either end of the spectrum.

Ari has a voice and can sang sang. Can HER's music even sit at the table with this?

 

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Anyways idk what y’all like cause one minute y’all swear y’all want artist to be like they used to be and that’s strictly promote their music and not drama and always tweeting, on social media over sharing but when you get an artist that is exactly like the old days, private, mystique, no drama y’all hating on her.

HER is for a bomb artist, strictly about her business you don’t hear her saying crazy stuff, y’all can’t find nothing about her past to cancel her about (stupid to do anyways but y’all do it so)
She’s actually talented and don’t make vulgar music


Like what’s not to like? Y’all the reason Ariana grande can make this unseasoned ass rnb album and outsell our black girls cause YALL black women tear down each other so bad. Damn. She can sing, write, guitar etc. what more? Black women artist have to work so hard, twice as hard, just to be loved by their own people. Meanwhile Taylor Switft can’t sing or dance and the biggest pop star ever. Whew Chile y’all not ready
her is biracial.
 

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Im mad these young kids and the PR delegate in this thread trying to play people like they don't know music when they're trying to defend HER. How ignorant and pretentious.

I know my classics and I also know the current trends pretty deep, and HER fails to stand out from either end of the spectrum.

Ari has a voice and can sang sang. Can HER's music even sit at the table with this?


So she's a bigger singer just because she yells an belts? oh
 

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But anyways Queen Naija debut album drop tonight and idc how y’all feel this girl music is bomb asf. She is the opposite of HER she overshare which is good and bad cause that’s how she became who she is. But the talent is undeniable
she can belt and sang her ass off
Listen to this


Plus pack lite is the best rnb song out right now.
She’s slept on but tonight her album gone make doubters into believers
Pack lite is a HIT these girls ain’t making tracks like this anymore. They are either mumbling or whispering.
 

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yall say this about everybody is who isnt bussin it open and ratchet
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SZA is both sexualized and associates with dark magick. Sadly, those two things are what's in with thei generation. They like their thots demonic and being side-chicks. It's more relatable and exciting to them. Plus, I think SZA is being pushed because she's probably doing all kinds of nasty, perverted sh!t behind the scenes and since she's open with dark magick, that's probably giving her leverage.

Some of you really tell on yourselves. You're not even confident in H.E.R. so instead of discussing the trajectory of her career you attack other female artists who are successful. If you actually believed H.E.R. was more talented and supreme to other female R&B artists you wouldn't even need to deflect by mentioning them at all. lol
 

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industry snoozefest/plant who has been around at least 10yrs and still no one cares. yes i'm irritated bc she fµcked up Jhene's song B.S. thank God for Kehlani's remix.

She has all this backing by the industry and all these nominations and awards thrown at her I’m sure it’ll get redundant.

Maybe let her music do the talking and let the general public decide who they like instead of forcing her down our throats
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I can’t understand the rest of your post but you need to chill. The delusion is kind of disturbing.:arrogant

I used to be a fan of hers (I liked one of her performances at the bet awards) but her musical output is very same-y. She just pumps out singles hoping one of them will stick instead of, you know, crafting an album with unique sounds and storytelling.

and the way she sings is not conducive to have a full, clear voice. She sings through her nose a lot of the times. Drop your jaw girl!

this isn’t talked about enough. I like a select few songs but most are monotone and boring (sing/talking in the same key, sounding like an album filler track). with the amount of obvious push from her team/industry and award accolades (like winning album Grammys off EPs that were thrown together to make an “album”), folks would think her music is selling and streaming high but it’s not. She drops so many singles yearly and most don’t make any noise AT ALL. why?

In r&b, CxH, Summer, and Sza are doing way better but people wouldn’t think that if they didn’t look at the numbers. I know numbers are not everything, but it makes you wonder how she’s being pushed as someone who is “killing r&b”. The math ain’t mathing. signed since forever, but why hasn’t HER dropped her debut album yet?
 

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So she's a bigger singer just because she yells an belts? oh

Ari’s voice is anything but monotone here. Can’t say the same about HER

HER is for a generation of people that want moody vibe music to do the emotional heavylifting and so that’s why her vocals are kept at a minimum.
 

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I like H.E.R . I can listen to her music all day long because that's the kind of vibe I like. Smooth with lyrics that makes you reflect on your current situations.
 
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LOOOOOL nah someone need to come out with this name. I could see him with dreads, dark sunglasses, struggle vocals, and playing dim lit concerts. He would probably look like that Daniel Ceaser dude when takes off his glasses lol.

Or Musiq Soulchild without sunglasses.
 

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this isn’t talked about enough. I like a select few songs but most are monotone and boring (sing/talking in the same key, sounding like an album filler track). with the amount of obvious push from her team/industry and award accolades (like winning album Grammys off EPs that were thrown together to make an “album”), folks would think her music is selling and streaming high but it’s not. She drops so many singles yearly and most don’t make any noise AT ALL. why?

In r&b, CxH, Summer, and Sza are doing way better but people wouldn’t think that if they didn’t look at the numbers. I know numbers are not everything, but it makes you wonder how she’s being pushed as someone who is “killing r&b”. The math ain’t mathing. signed since forever, but why hasn’t HER dropped her debut album yet?

Yes, CxH! How could I forget my girls??

We always been on the same page when it comes to this. You got people in this very thread saying she’s better than her peers because she isn’t overtly sexualized. What does that have to do with the music? Lyrically, sonically, vocally, HER is doing the bare minimum in ALL departments.

The Grammys she has been nominated for/won were just ridiculous. It’s all courtesy of aggressive management. I don’t outright call her industry plant, but she moves through the industry like one.
 

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However, musical theory is only half of the battle. You still have to figure out to sell a compelling story to the listener.

This is the truth. So many technically gifted musicians can barely get any attraction for their work but you have other musicians like Kurt Cobain who only knows 4 chords but were able to touch millions? Why is that?

They were able to connect with people and it sounded authentic and genuine. It didn't sound try hard. They had a brand and it sold.
 

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Yo when Janelle came out With that tuxedo, I sat up straight. I was a teen, so I can't speak on previous generations impactful artists, but for me at the time I felt was the first time an artist had an image that was truly breaking the mold. I always think what her career would have been like had she maintained that lane creatively. She don't feel the same to right now tho.

I agree. Janelle dropped the ball. Arch Android and Metropolis had me shook. Just phenomenal bodies of work
 

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I guess. People can have mentors but still flop. I just get this vibe from her that she just has no personality. When you don’t have a personality, it reflects in the music. She strikes me as the type to have dry phone conversations and gets left on read a lot because she texts one word replies like “k.” “Oh.” And “damn that’s crazy.” Like talk to me Sis!!:emoji_rolling_eyes:

Right, and Esperanza is not the best example. Esperanza tried to do that Reiki stuff with her album and people were not biting as they used to.
 

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This is the truth. So many technically gifted musicians can barely get any attraction for their work but you have other musicians like Kurt Cobain who only knows 4 chords but were able to touch millions? Why is that?

They were able to connect with people and it sounded authentic and genuine. It didn't sound try hard. They had a brand and it sold.
You've just simply articulated what i've been trying to say this entire thread.

I'm so annoyed with fonts who keep taking critique of HER's musical output as bashful, where they respond with the statement that she plays multiple instruments.

The pretentious recording academy, along with bedroom pop scene, has kids confused as to what's most important to a record.

Sure, it is most organic when artist themselves write and or produce their own music. Nevertheless, there are still so many more dimensions to be discussed when analyzing great artists and great records.

At the end of the day, the music must compel emotion and convey a unique message. One may be able to create the most intricate pieces from scratch, but if it doesn't connect with audiences then it fails the very fundamental purpose of music which is to convey a specific message through song.
 

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yall say this about everybody is who isnt bussin it open and ratchet


No. Her music is boring. I don’t care for ratchedness because I don’t listen to that crap. Her music is one note. I listen to soul/neo soul and don’t care about interactions with the artist(they are not my friend) and I couldn’t care less about what they look like which is why I have not commented on her racial identity or skin tone. Her music is just boring and it’s okay for people to like other things without assuming that we like trash because it’s not the case
 

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I Like some of her songs but baby, I wish they could open the flood gates for other talented women in RnB. It's like there are a select few chosen for the top in this industry. So many talented women all over the country.

H.E.R's music is not extremely different. Got to keep it real. She's talented though.
 

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Same.

So talented but so...eh.

She'll get pushed by the industry and do well though; like Alicia Keys when she first came out. She's the right color, look and hair type to get put on.

I said what I said.

No lie told. I'm tired of this industry game. I wish people can hype up their local talent and put their people on. They are pushing so many mediocre people down our throats. It's annoying.

Can you imagine a Aretha, Michael Jackson (before surgery), and so many other's not being chosen for their raw talent because of featurism, color, and etc.
 

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HER is not for everybody, but she really is super talented. she has one of the best "low key" voices in the game, imo. i can see how ppl can say shes boring though. its not too many songs of hers that get a lot of replay from me. but i've always chalked that up to me never diggin deep into her discography, but yall goin in lol

my thing is, if yall the same ones who somehow made jhene aiko same exact song making ass a thing, i'm not sure i can take ur opinions on HER serious
Jhene Aiko is a pδrn singer with a filthy mouth. I’m sure they all eat ass but she needs to learn to be discreet in her lyrics ion like her but rumor has it her and HER had a 3way with CB!
 
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I love h.e.r, sing olay instruments, non problematic have a whole cool misterious persona. Y'all need stop saying thar just because the person its boring just because the person its not twerking or screaming in a song, when someone do this y'all say the person ia doing too much.
 

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Some of you really tell on yourselves. You're not even confident in H.E.R. so instead of discussing the trajectory of her career you attack other female artists who are successful. If you actually believed H.E.R. was more talented and supreme to other female R&B artists you wouldn't even need to deflect by mentioning them at all. lol
She’s plays instruments really well. I like her music but I do not like Skip and she seems to love him and Chris brown. Skip seems like a fake liar and comes off like a mooch and if she’s so into ppl like that I can’t dig her that’s y ion don’t like any of the other girls and Sza my number 1. Ella Mai is a fan of CB as well but they must be use to men beating their ass to supply chauvinistic black women abusers. I wonder do they support Trump too!
 
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Not feeling her and notice all of the "stars" today are biracial? That sh!t is by design. I don't like this little b!tch and she's said sh!tty things about Black people in the past. That other no rapping chick Saweetie is also half Asian. Not to mention Farti who doesn't even have a Black parent. Stop supporting these frauds while you shut real Black women out.
 

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Y'all alwaus make hard for black, black (ish) girls but whites put girls like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish (eho habe some talent but are overrated) on a pedestal, "she is a plant" let her be, let girls shine being average, not eveybody is janet, whitney, Lauryn, i bet that theres more talented peoplw than H.E.R, but some people make succes and some dont, its is what its is.
 

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But anyways Queen Naija debut album drop tonight and idc how y’all feel this girl music is bomb asf. She is the opposite of HER she overshare which is good and bad cause that’s how she became who she is. But the talent is undeniable
she can belt and sang her ass off
Listen to this


Plus pack lite is the best rnb song out right now.
She’s slept on but tonight her album gone make doubters into believers
Pack lite is a HIT these girls ain’t making tracks like this anymore. They are either mumbling or whispering.

You must be a baby mama with 3 kids!
 

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I remember she made comments about black people/black Americans on twitter so that made me dislike her. If it wasn't for Rihanna playing Focus on a IG clip she would be an unknown artist.

She's a mix of Asian and Black so that helped her with a little push.

She talented but so are a lot of singers.

What did she say about black people?
 

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Anyways idk what y’all like cause one minute y’all swear y’all want artist to be like they used to be and that’s strictly promote their music and not drama and always tweeting, on social media over sharing but when you get an artist that is exactly like the old days, private, mystique, no drama y’all hating on her.

HER is for a bomb artist, strictly about her business you don’t hear her saying crazy stuff, y’all can’t find nothing about her past to cancel her about (stupid to do anyways but y’all do it so)
She’s actually talented and don’t make vulgar music


Like what’s not to like? Y’all the reason Ariana grande can make this unseasoned ass rnb album and outsell our black girls cause YALL black women tear down each other so bad. Damn. She can sing, write, guitar etc. what more? Black women artist have to work so hard, twice as hard, just to be loved by their own people. Meanwhile Taylor Switft can’t sing or dance and the biggest pop star ever. Whew Chile y’all not ready
I want more HER and less ratchets Ella Mai is right in the middle but all those a n word loving hood dudes broke My heart songs are played out.
 
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I’m a fan but still confused on how she went from nobody caring to a success by simply putting on sunglasses
 

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