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If you go onto another one of those podcasts online, Scottie is arguing with people on the comments section. LOL.

Anyhow, Scottie rubs me the wrong way in his talking down to fans.... here are some of his corrections in the comment section...
Scottie Baldwin10 months ago
I was never fired by Prince and have never said so. That is incorrect. I left three times. 1994, 2001, 2016. Facts. Prince initiated contact via with me via email {he referencing their last conversation and the person's assumption Prince had fired him}. My response to him was an offer to “meet and discuss.” Prince was acting strange, that is true. However, this was not any type of strange I said seen before. I got paid every cent from Bremer Bank. In my dealing with artistic behavior, I did not recognize his behavior as an addiction issue. I will not apologize for not seeing it. I never have never made contradicting statements. Go back and carefully listen to my words. You didn’t hear my words clearly. Calling any of us “losers” says more about you than it does us. Obviously you are hurt/broken-hearted/confused/angry about the loss of Prince. In time you’ll heal. I wish you well in your recovery.

One thing he revealed here is that Prince was acting unusual, but Scottie just wrote it off as artistic temperament. Obviously, the guy is really jaded about artists to think unusual behavior, weight loss, crying, a history of pain issues, Prince putting his hands in ice water every night, a recent loss of an ex-girlfriend (leading Prince to delete a show) and a longing/nostalgia... all just was artistic temperament. Dude needs to take a break from artists then.
 
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It's not the money really, it's Scotty's pride. His arrogance. He's so insecure he's STILL trying to put Prince beneath him.
Scotty constantly puts himself above everyone. Just listen to the way he talks. There's no humility. It's ridiculous!
What we don't get to hear is Prince's side of it, what a pain in the ass Scotty was to be around, how difficult it was to put up with someone who was excellent at what they did and familiar with how you worked, but SUCH a pain in the arse.
Prince was a lot older than Scotty and VERY experienced. Yet Scotty is always saying what he "showed" Prince, and making P sound like a clueless little child. Wendy, Sheila and some of the others do the same.

Prince wanted confident people with talent around him so he probably did endure some of Scottie's crap (and visa versa). I personally don't like people who come off like doormats when discussing Prince and his treatment of them. Its martyrdom. At least, Scottie doesn't do that. But Scottie is indeed arrogant. His arguments over sound were not about Prince's best interest but his own. He didn't want anyone complaining about the sound and knowing he was the one responsible for doing it.
 

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If you go onto another one of those podcasts online, Scottie is arguing with people on the comments section. LOL.

Anyhow, Scottie rubs me the wrong way in his talking down to fans.... here are some of his corrections in the comment section...
Scottie Baldwin10 months ago
I was never fired by Prince and have never said so. That is incorrect. I left three times. 1994, 2001, 2016. Facts. Prince initiated contact via with me via email {he referencing their last conversation and the person's assumption Prince had fired him}. My response to him was an offer to “meet and discuss.” Prince was acting strange, that is true. However, this was not any type of strange I said seen before. I got paid every cent from Bremer Bank. In my dealing with artistic behavior, I did not recognize his behavior as an addiction issue. I will not apologize for not seeing it. I never have never made contradicting statements. Go back and carefully listen to my words. You didn’t hear my words clearly. Calling any of us “losers” says more about you than it does us. Obviously you are hurt/broken-hearted/confused/angry about the loss of Prince. In time you’ll heal. I wish you well in your recovery.

One thing he revealed here is that Prince was acting unusual, but Scottie just wrote it off as artistic temperament. Obviously, the guy is really jaded about artists to think unusual behavior, weight loss, crying, a history of pain issues, Prince putting his hands in ice water every night, a recent loss of an ex-girlfriend (leading Prince to delete a show) and a longing/nostalgia... all just was artistic temperament. Dude needs to take a break from artists then.

I think he thought Prince was getting older and for some reason extreme in some things at that time. I don't think he considered the addiction issue.
But there is a sensitivity chip missing with Scotty, yes. It's not that it's not there; it's that he's afraid to be vulnerable. And yes he does really like the money too. A lot of people around Prince did, unfortunately. Including women.
And yes it is funny that Scotty is arguing with fans online.
 

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Prince wanted confident people with talent around him so he probably did endure some of Scottie's crap (and visa versa). I personally don't like people who come off like doormats when discussing Prince and his treatment of them. Its martyrdom. At least, Scottie doesn't do that. But Scottie is indeed arrogant. His arguments over sound were not about Prince's best interest but his own. He didn't want anyone complaining about the sound and knowing he was the one responsible for doing it.

Yes, Scotty basically said it was all about him (Scotty). This is NOT the example P conveyed in the music industry. Yes, you protect yours, but also be a part of.
Scotty is VERY concerned with how people see him and wants credit (to be "thanked") by P.
P thanked him once, but didn't validate people seeking that kind of thing from him.
How about Scotty thank Prince for the opportunity?? See, these are the things people don't think of when they're angry.
 

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Which artists has Scottie worked with since P died? Who else was he working with while Prince was alive? These folks seem to get hung up on Prince, but they they have to have had experience with other people.
 

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I get the feeling the vertigo-type thing was just temporary, or maybe as a part of his self-detox or not feeling well in general. But dizziness doesn't always have anything to do with hearing loss. Vertigo and dizziness are middle ear issues, not inner.
Vertigo is a symptom of epilepsy or partial seizures.
 

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Which artists has Scottie worked with since P died? Who else was he working with while Prince was alive? These folks seem to get hung up on Prince, but they they have to have had experience with other people.
Madonna, Lady Gaga and others. Truth is that he probably didn't get to say two words to those folks but the pay was probably better and the hours were probably shorter. Prince emboldened these folks but contrary to popular belief had a massive overhead and not the funds to pay them the way they liked. Working for Prince is like working for the most successful mom-and-pop store in town rather than working for a chain store.
 

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Madonna, Lady Gaga and others. Truth is that he probably didn't get to say two words to those folks but the pay was probably better and the hours were probably shorter. Prince emboldened these folks but contrary to popular belief had a massive overhead and not the funds to pay them the way they liked. Working for Prince is like working for the most successful mom-and-pop store in town rather than working for a chain store.


Prince seemingly treated all of his employees as friends. Good for morale I guess, not so much business.
 

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Prince seemingly treated all of his employees as friends. Good for morale I guess, not so much business.

Prince wasn't always friendly and it took a while for him to warm up to folks...and he did do the pull-push-pull thing that Scottie described in his relationships...a mixture of abandonment issues, trust issues, and a need for control all probably motivating it. So, he definitely wasn't a low maintenance kind of dude. But they knew that and dealt with it over and over again and they have free will. So, I have no sympathy for them in that regard. They need to remember to explain why they kept coming back and why they call him a friend and not just a boss whose work they admired.. They want our pity but I don't think they are entitled to it since they either don't feel or won't admit any pity for him.
 

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Prince wasn't always friendly and it took a while for him to warm up to folks...and he did do the pull-push-pull thing that Scottie described in his relationships...a mixture of abandonment issues, trust issues, and a need for control all probably motivating it. So, he definitely wasn't a low maintenance kind of dude. But they knew that and dealt with it over and over again and they have free will. So, I have no sympathy for them in that regard. They need to remember to explain why they kept coming back and why they call him a friend and not just a boss whose work they admired.. They want our pity but I don't think they are entitled to it since they either don't feel or won't admit any pity for him.



I think people expected Prince to behave like everyone else. People going through life at that level don't. And tbh, I really don't care if Scottie may have gotten his feelings hurt a few times. So what if Prince could be moody? He had a fleet of people, past and present, riding his coattails. He was tired.
 

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Prince wanted the show erased because it was too personal, esp about Vanity.
Thank God for bootleggers.
 

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Agree with previous poster. He was vulnerable and quite personal so he probably wanted it deleted because of that
 

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I heard it was 2004 and he was hitting on the girl while doing it. So none of these folks are without their egos or faults. But Prince could be frustrating as well obviously especially if he thought the sound was crap due to hearing issues. That all being said, Scottie sometimes lacks a sense of humor. Prince's faux competition is sometimes taken a bit too seriously by him. Prince liked a bit of trash talking and banter...those who hung with him knew how to joke back. It was often harmless and funny. Morris Hayes understands that. Scottie, I sense, could geek out with Prince and talk about music but the banter wasn't his strong suit...although there are a few stories where he engaged in some with Prince; it didn't seem to be his strength unlike Morris Hayes or Ruth.
You need to knock off the excuse making for this jerk. Making fun of hearing loss and asking for ridiculous sums of money while P was upset about Vanity. I told you watch his eyes in that interview he is cold MoFo.
 

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Opioid use in high doses especially can and probably will cause hearing loss and can lead to deafness. My poor baby :pensive: I can relate - hearing loss as you get older even is a b!tch...
Oh knock it off. I am so tired of drugs being blamed for everything. We did not see Prince wearing ear plugs until the One Night Alone tours. Loud music I am sure caused the problems.
 

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I think people expected Prince to behave like everyone else. People going through life at that level don't. And tbh, I really don't care if Scottie may have gotten his feelings hurt a few times. So what if Prince could be moody? He had a fleet of people, past and present, riding his coattails. He was tired.
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But how does everyone else behave? In my world people problems are aplenty. Prince brought magic to the mundane, a lot of these folks are just... a bore.
 

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You need to knock off the excuse making for this jerk. Making fun of hearing loss and asking for ridiculous sums of money while P was upset about Vanity. I told you watch his eyes in that interview he is cold MoFo.
Assuming those things happened the same night. Scottie said he had already decided to leave before his last night and his last night was the night vanity died.
 

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That was the first night of the tour. Lol
Yeah, I guess you are right. She died on the 15th. The first show was the 16th. He stayed until Auckland which was the 24th. I doubt Scottie will admit other facts like being over seas in Australia with just Prince and Kirk were factors and of course the pay. I imagine his other job opportunities were more fun.

Who was the other sound engineers after he left? Apparently, they did fine whoever they were? Were they just affliated with the venues?
 

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Yeah, I guess you are right. She died on the 15th. The first show was the 16th. He stayed until Auckland which was the 24th. I doubt Scottie will admit other facts like being over seas in Australia with just Prince and Kirk were factors and of course the pay. I imagine his other job opportunities were more fun.

Who was the other sound engineers after he left? Apparently, they did fine whoever they were? Were they just affliated with the venues?



She died on the 15th, which would be the 16th there. I just think it's funny he made up his mind to leave the first night. Prince must have really been on a streak.

I've never heard of who the other sound people were. They must have just came in and did their jobs. Like pros.
 

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Now we get to the real reason you posted this thread. Andy Allo. lol
Agree, plus I think his state of mind and his emotions on that nights performance speaks volumes of his feelings for Denise versus AA.
 

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She died on the 15th, which would be the 16th there. I just think it's funny he made up his mind to leave the first night. Prince must have really been on a streak.

I've never heard of who the other sound people were. They must have just came in and did their jobs. Like pros.

Actually, it makes Scottie sound more whiny. How much of a streak could P had been on in such a short time? He already made up his mind by the 15th? They barely started. And then he stuck around for ten more shows even after he had decided to quit. Sounds odd. Maybe we misunderstood him. Did he actually say he had decided by Melbourne? If so, it makes him sound dubious...like he didn't really know how to handle all of his duties. Prince and Scottie got along fine during the Gala event a couple weeks earlier. I don't imagine Prince had to do a lot of rehearsal in between. So when did this streak happen?

To be honest with you, it is making it sound more and more like a money issue he won't cop to--maybe a legit money issue because he felt he was doing so much more than sound engineering. Still considering Scottie's jaded nature about artistic temperament and having seen Prince in the past, how much of a "streak" could Prince have been on and if it was the ultimate "streak", shouldn't that have been a red flag?

Something tells me Scottie is spinning this stuff at least a little in his favor.
 

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Oh knock it off. I am so tired of drugs being blamed for everything. We did not see Prince wearing ear plugs until the One Night Alone tours. Loud music I am sure caused the problems.
Check the side effects.
 

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Loud music probably was to blame also, but regular use can contribute also. Why does it have to be all or nothing?? Nobody knows for sure besides the fact it was his personal business. Possibilities and opinions can be presented when theorizing.
 
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Agree, plus I think his state of mind and his emotions on that nights performance speaks volumes of his feelings for Denise versus AA.


Well, I've heard from fans that he dedicated TBO that night to Denise just to make Susannah jealous. Lol. People just don't want to think that he was genuinely sad that Denise had died. A lot of P fans are disturbed.
 

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Well, I've heard from fans that he dedicated TBO that night to Denise just to make Susannah jealous. Lol. People just don't want to think that he was genuinely sad that Denise had died. A lot of P fans are disturbed.
Why would he care about Susannah being jealous they were not a couple anymore? Crazy ass people
 

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Warning: Opiate Painkillers Can Damage Hearing - Drug Rehab Options

Opioid Drugs and Sensorineural Hearing Loss

There are a number of articles regarding studies done where they are finding in focusing on hearing impairment to complete loss with those taking high doses and long term opioid use.
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Well all I can say is that I saw 5 great concerts within 12 months of Prince's death. So he was obviously able to work out the sound with someone. All of us who work for a boss understand the meaning of being respectful, especially if we don't agree. Why should Scottie be any different?

Beethoven was deaf in his 40s, how would Scottie have dealt with him?
 

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Well all I can say is that I saw 5 great concerts within 12 months of Prince's death. So he was obviously able to work out the sound with someone. All of us who work for a boss understand the meaning of being respectful, especially if we don't agree. Why should Scottie be any different?
You are soooo lucky to have seen those ....
 
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Back to our boy Scottie. He's on twitter right now..retweeting this Baron3121 guy's tweets about Prince giving crap to bad sound engineers and telling them how to fix the sound while on stage.. and Scottie is answering questions. There are some interesting factoids. But what is also abundantly clear is that Scottie thinks (and is being told) that he is a better engineer than pretty much anyone who ever worked for Prince. LOL. I do recall him giving P some sh!t for calling out engineers (saying it was unprofessional and uncomfortable--which is not totally wrong) but now he is somewhat blaming the engineers and reminding everyone that P would call HIM immediately after tours or shows with bad sound...LOL. He is a bit of a hypocrite about that kind of thing. About a month ago, someone asked him on Twitter who John was (an engineer who Prince called out by his first name for bad sound). Instead of saying "I don't want to call out another sound engineer", he answered with the guy's last name. Dude is something.
 

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Back to our boy Scottie. He's on twitter right now..retweeting this Baron3121 guy's tweets about Prince giving crap to bad sound engineers and telling them how to fix the sound while on stage.. and Scottie is answering questions. There are some interesting factoids. But what is also abundantly clear is that Scottie thinks (and is being told) that he is a better engineer than pretty much anyone who ever worked for Prince. LOL. I do recall him giving P some sh!t for calling out engineers (saying it was unprofessional and uncomfortable--which is not totally wrong) but now he is somewhat blaming the engineers and reminding everyone that P would call HIM immediately after tours or shows with bad sound...LOL. He is a bit of a hypocrite about that kind of thing. About a month ago, someone asked him on Twitter who John was (an engineer who Prince called out by his first name for bad sound). Instead of saying "I don't want to call out another sound engineer", he answered with the guy's last name. Dude is something.
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Well doubt he'd be doing that if Prince were alive. As long as folks keep tuning in, he will continue.
 

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But Prince doesn't need defending -- his 40+ year career speaks for itself.
Who said he did. I am just saying that sometimes Scottie acts like he actually likes Prince. Sometimes, it's like pulling teeth to get him to compliment the man other than his music.

I guess the point I am making by referencing these recent tweets is that Scottie (like many others) is probably relatively truthful about Prince but never mentions his own faults, or ego trips or mistakes. The dude acts like he is perfect at what he does and who he is. He obviously thinks Prince is a genius and has said so...but he also makes sure to "humanize" him by pointing out faults etc...but then never shows regrets or mentions any mistakes or shortcomings he himself definitely has...because to err is human as they say--and Scottie and Prince are both human.
 

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Well, I've heard from fans that he dedicated TBO that night to Denise just to make Susannah jealous. Lol. People just don't want to think that he was genuinely sad that Denise had died. A lot of P fans are disturbed.

Oh! NOW I see what your aim is on this thread! Making it about Vanity again! :wink2
 

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Back to our boy Scottie. He's on twitter right now..retweeting this Baron3121 guy's tweets about Prince giving crap to bad sound engineers and telling them how to fix the sound while on stage.. and Scottie is answering questions. There are some interesting factoids. But what is also abundantly clear is that Scottie thinks (and is being told) that he is a better engineer than pretty much anyone who ever worked for Prince. LOL. I do recall him giving P some sh!t for calling out engineers (saying it was unprofessional and uncomfortable--which is not totally wrong) but now he is somewhat blaming the engineers and reminding everyone that P would call HIM immediately after tours or shows with bad sound...LOL. He is a bit of a hypocrite about that kind of thing. About a month ago, someone asked him on Twitter who John was (an engineer who Prince called out by his first name for bad sound). Instead of saying "I don't want to call out another sound engineer", he answered with the guy's last name. Dude is something.

Yup!
 

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Who said he did. I am just saying that sometimes Scottie acts like he actually likes Prince. Sometimes, it's like pulling teeth to get him to compliment the man other than his music.

I guess the point I am making by referencing these recent tweets is that Scottie (like many others) is probably relatively truthful about Prince but never mentions his own faults, or ego trips or mistakes. The dude acts like he is perfect at what he does and who he is. He obviously thinks Prince is a genius and has said so...but he also makes sure to "humanize" him by pointing out faults etc...but then never shows regrets or mentions any mistakes or shortcomings he himself definitely has...because to err is human as they say--and Scottie and Prince are both human.
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I listened to an interview a long time ago, and don't feel a need to be tuning in every time he speaks or tweets. Prince did hours and hours of sound check before every concert. Even in 2016, listening to him outside the concert hall checking sound and playing before the concert was amazing. The reason Prince's concerts were amazing was because of Prince.
 

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