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I don’t understand why the father wouldn’t just watch them while she’s at work in the first place. I’m wondering if she asked him and he said no, but called CPS on her.

I feel bad for her. She had a child early and most likely never had the proper support system in the beginning. Hopefully, she gets a support system set up and is able to get her children back.
WTH?? How did you get he called? You hate black men that much?
 

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WTH?? How did you get he called? You hate black men that much?

I didn’t say he DID call, I said I wonder if he called and he did call according to his sister so......

Read the thread. The 10 year-old and 2 year-old were not living with their mother, allegedly. They were living with their grandmother(the father’s mom).The only reason they went to the hotel was because the grandmother let the mother pick them up for a visitation. When the father had gotten home(lives with his mom), he was told the girls were visiting their mother. He fell asleep and when he woke up he realized she still had not brought them home. He allegedly called his 10 year-olds phone to find out where they were. His daughter said she was with the mom(mom was at work) but the dad didn’t buy it, so he called the police to get his daughters back.

It also seems like the 2 year-old wasn’t his BUT his mom had been caring for the toddler as one of her own grandchildren. After the incident hit the news and the GFM popped up, the biological father’s sister picked up the 2 year-old from the grandmother’s house despite never offering to care or help with the child before the incident.

So yeah, he called and that was probably the smartest thing to do because I don’t even want to imagine what could have happened if he had rolled up to the motel to take the kids back with him. I can already see a Karen calling the cops on him and telling them he was kidnapping the children.
 

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Read the thread. The 10 year-old and 2 year-old were not living with their mother, allegedly. They were living with their grandmother(the father’s mom).The only reason they went to the hotel was because the grandmother let the mother pick them up for a visitation. When the father had gotten home(lives with his mom), he was told the girls were visiting their mother. He fell asleep and when he woke up he realized she still had not brought them home. He allegedly called his 10 year-olds phone to find out where they were. His daughter said she was with the mom(mom was at work) but the dad didn’t buy it, so he called the police to get his daughters back.

It also seems like the 2 year-old wasn’t his BUT his mom had been caring for the toddler as one of her own grandchildren. After the incident hit the news and the GFM popped up, the biological father’s sister picked up the 2 year-old from the grandmother’s house despite never offering to care or help with the child before the incident.

So yeah, he called and that was probably the smartest thing to do because I don’t even want to imagine what could have happened if he had rolled up to the motel to take the kids back with him. I can already see a Karen calling the cops on him and telling them he was kidnapping the children.

I do think it was the smartest thing to do. I asked that question when the story first broke.

I wish the best for those kids.
 

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Where are you getting his age from? His sister said he was 13 when the first child was born.
It’s because we did not initially know the youngest child didn’t have the same dad as the 10 year-old. A font posted an article about a domestic violence issue between the mom and the 2 year-olds biological dad. The article said the dad was 26 at the time of arrest and Shania was 22. It was later cleared up the guy in the article isn’t the same guy Shania had a baby with at 14.
 

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It’s because we did not initially know the youngest child didn’t have the same dad as the 10 year-old. A font posted an article about a domestic violence issue between the mom and the 2 year-olds biological dad. The article said the dad was 26 at the time of arrest and Shania was 22. It was later cleared up the guy in the article isn’t the same guy Shania had a baby with at 14.

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. There must be two articles linked because the one I read didn’t have either of their ages, just their mugshots.
 
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Where are you getting his age from? His sister said he was 13 when the first child was born.
There is an article included in my quote. Logic would follow that I built on the info within it in my response.
 

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Read the thread. The 10 year-old and 2 year-old were not living with their mother, allegedly. They were living with their grandmother(the father’s mom).The only reason they went to the hotel was because the grandmother let the mother pick them up for a visitation. When the father had gotten home(lives with his mom), he was told the girls were visiting their mother. He fell asleep and when he woke up he realized she still had not brought them home. He allegedly called his 10 year-olds phone to find out where they were. His daughter said she was with the mom(mom was at work) but the dad didn’t buy it, so he called the police to get his daughters back.

It also seems like the 2 year-old wasn’t his BUT his mom had been caring for the toddler as one of her own grandchildren. After the incident hit the news and the GFM popped up, the biological father’s sister picked up the 2 year-old from the grandmother’s house despite never offering to care or help with the child before the incident.

So yeah, he called and that was probably the smartest thing to do because I don’t even want to imagine what could have happened if he had rolled up to the motel to take the kids back with him. I can already see a Karen calling the cops on him and telling them he was kidnapping the children.


Another element that is if we are believing everything the sister said is that this mother of the 2 kids moved out 30 days ago. It may explain why she was staying in a motel if she was trying to get on her feet.
 

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There is an article included in my quote. Logic would follow that I built on the info within it in my response.

I read the article that @Legs posted and you quoted. There are no ages listed in it.


YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – Police investigating a fight in Youngstown said they arrived to find a woman holding a knife in one hand and a baby in the other.

It happened early Sunday morning at a house in the 300 block of Marmion Ave., according to a police report.

Police said Shaina Bell dropped the knife when officers arrived. She told police that her boyfriend, James Brown, also had a weapon, according to the report.

Police said Brown was found with a box cutter in his pocket.

He told police that Bell pinched him and said he told her, “If you keep putting your hands on me, I’m going to put my hands back on you,” the report stated.

Brown said at that time, Bell went to the kitchen and grabbed a knife. He told police that she began to thrust it at him, as if she was going to stab him, the report stated.

Bell told police that the fight began because Brown was upset that she put Neosporin on their child’s buttocks. She said he pried the child out of her arms at which time she slapped him, according to the report.

Police said Bell told officers that she tried to get away from Brown, but he followed her around the house.

She said he pulled a knife on her, so she grabbed another knife to defend herself.

Bell told police that Brown threatened to slice her neck, according to the report.

Police arrested Bell and Brown, and they were each charged with domestic violence.

They confiscated the knife and box cutter.

The report does not specify what happened to the baby.
 

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Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. There must be two articles linked because the one I read didn’t have either of ages, just their mugshots.
I had linked one that had the ages, but deleted it when I realized there’s two different dads and that the one in the article is not the one she had her daughter with at 14.

Let me add: Even though I still want her to get help wherever she can, it does look like the children were actually living with the grandmother and dad. There’s so many pictures and videos of his children always with his family. I think out of desperation, Shania decided to let people believe the kids were living with her at the motel when she saw people willing to donate to a GFM. When this story broke we assumed the children lived with their mother and Shania probably thought the donations could get her what she needs to finally have her daughters live with her, so she chose not to correct our assumption.
 

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I had linked one that had the ages, but deleted it when I realized there’s two different dads and that the one in the article is not the one she had her daughter with at 14.

Let me add: Even though I still want her to get help wherever she can, it does look like the children were actually living with the grandmother and dad. There’s so many pictures and videos of his children always with his family. I think out of desperation, Shania decided to let people believe the kids were living with her at the motel when she saw people willing to donate to a GFM. When this story broke we assumed the children lived with their mother and Shania probably thought the donations could get her what she needs to finally have her daughters live with her, so she chose not to correct our assumption.

Thank you because I was asking a legitimate question as to where the ages were from because I didn’t see it mentioned in the other post that @Legs posted.
 

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I listened to this podcast that made fun of a woman who left her baby in the car to buy milk. The car was stolen. They called her stupid. She just finished a 14-hour shift, picked up her baby and said she could see the car the whole time.

The car and baby were recovered, but the car thief had the nerve to criticize the mother.

Listen maybe supporting moms like this, means not being a dirty thief.
 

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No one outside of a family member or close friend should be starting go fund for other people. This white lady whole vibe is off.
 

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Another element that is if we are believing everything the sister said is that this mother of the 2 kids moved out 30 days ago. It may explain why she was staying in a motel if she was trying to get on her feet.

From what I can tell, I don’t think Shania stayed with the dad’s family the entire time since age 14. I feel it was more of a situation where she may have lived with his family off and on. Think about it. In 2019, she had a child with an entirely different guy and was even arrested with him while they lived together. Jai’Sean(10 year-old’s dad) also had a relationship with a different woman in 2020 according to his FB and they too had a baby together.
 

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I'm not trying to come down on this young mother, but there are plenty of resources (at least where I live) for single parents. She should have been had low income housing, child care, and everything else. If I missed these details, then I apologize, but Go Fund me shouldn't be on the table.

ETA-Common sense aint common.

I pray for those kids cause this is multigenerational trauma and dysfunction.

The waiting list for section 8 is years long in certain places. I know this from personal experience.
 

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This is wrong. She was 14 with her first child and instead of sitting around being a bum mum she is trying to work. She probably doesn't earn enough for child care.
The ten year old is old enough to look after the 2yr old for a few hours
No. I’m sorry. I have 10 year old twins. My daughter is actually pretty mature for her age. She is NOT old enough to look after a 2 year old for ANY amount of time. In an emergency, she would panic, as would most children. Kids also react in unpredictable ways if a younger child won’t stop crying, for example. I know that my kids freaked out when I went to the market for a half hour and the electricity went out due to some weird neighborhood issue. And my kids aren’t unusual for their age. It is not appropriate for a 10 year old to babysit a 2 year old for hours. I would not leave my 10 years olds with a toddler for an an hour. Maybe 15 minutes... MAYBE but I’m not sure. Developmentally most kids are just not mature enough for that type of responsibility.

We need to do better for working parents in this country, not expect children to be responsible for other children.
 

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My mother used to leave me and my 4 siblings alone when my older sister was 8 and we hated it. We used to cry and cry all night with very little food. I would tell my teachers that we had been left home alone and never had breakfast. The sad thing is, she never spent the money she made on us. Instead, she bought unnecessary things; makeup, gifts for children at church and kitchen utensils she never used. She didn’t have her priorities in order. We never had the bare essentials. Going through puberty, we used to wrap tissue around our knickers because she never bought us sanitary towels and we were all too scared to ask her in case she beat us up. Neighbours and the school reported us to social services and despite several warnings, we were found home alone time and time again.

This was in the 80s and 90s when social services didn’t do their jobs properly and they didn’t take us permanently into their care. When they visited, our house was in squalor and they described me and my siblings as looking under stimulated. We were living in hell; beaten with dangerous objects, adultified, forced to do house chores and weekly shopping alone from the age of 6. Social services put it down to a mother doing the best for her children. They didn’t read the signs.

Any mother capable of leaving young children at home is capable of a lot more misconduct. Please stop feeling sorry for her without knowing the full facts of the endangerment those children suffered. I hope any decision made in this case is for the best for those children.
 
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Praying that a company that provides day care comes forward and hires her. Like others said, she should not be made to be a criminal for doing what she felt she had to do to support her children. It's obvious this young woman has been failed since she was a child herself. It's not like she was out clubbing. She was working a legit job that more than likely pays sh!t, but it's honest work.
Are children in America going to school at the moment or having online lessons? If the Mum was working in the day wouldn’t the 10 year old be at school! I have the feeling she was leaving them at night.
 

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Updated edit:
I have had some family members reach out to me to explain the situation and I have decided to change the nature of the fundraiser. Without going into too much detail I feel that the money donated will be best used to help provide for the children. Due to the fact that I am amending the fundraiser, I fully understand if anyone that has donated would like to request a refund. At this point, any and all donations will be put towards clothing and necessities for the children. Please understand that by the request of so many people, I made this gofundme with the best of intentions and feel like this is the best route to ensure the money is put to good use.


I’m confused. Are they homeless or what? The article and GFM doesn’t say.
Where were those family members when the children were home alone? Why didn’t they come forward to help with babysitting?
 

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Here’s the link to the Go Fund Me also see these updates. The problem I have is family can meddle and be messy depending on what’s going on. The information is vague abs presents that there is more to the story, but it also can be a messy relationship where parental sides are beefing and influencing the organizer.


Fundraiser for the children of Shaina Bell, organized by Courtney Hatton














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There is definitely more to this story and it’s not in favour of the mother.
 

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I'm not understanding why she was arrested.

Obviously there are details from this story missing, but I can't see how her acts were criminal.

The legal age that a child can be left home alone and watching younger siblings vary by state. Many states don't have a minimum age set at all.

For the states that have set a minimum age, it varies from 9-14. Most of the time it is up to the parent's discretion.

This girl was WORKING. Its clear that she needs resources and not jail. Our system is backwards.
She was arrested because her children were left in danger. They obviously came to the attention of the police for reasons not known to us.
 

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See I hate this fµck!ng system. If she was a yt girl, they would’ve given her a warning and gotten her in touch with a slew of resources to help her get stable in terms of housing and child care, instead she was criminalized. Being in the foster care system I’ve seen first hand what prompts the removal of a white child vs a black one... let’s just say that they have to damn near kill their children before they’re removed (and they’ll get them back 9 times out of 10) whereas with us it’s a lot more arbitrary. And I’ve known them to do far worse to their children but not be criminally charged while this woman was charged with a crime for all to see. They don’t want people to be able to instantly ascertain that their sons and daughters are terrible neglectful and abusive parents, but when it comes of us of course they want to throw the book.

I hope she can find a lawyer to represent her pro Bono, if there’s no clear minimum age for staying home alone or baby sitting, she needs to fight this. When I was 10 my mom used to leave me and siblings home while she worked part time and our dad full time. Granted, my youngest siblings was 6, but back in the 90s/00s this wasn’t an abnormal situation at all, it was up to the parents discretion as to what age their kids could stay home alone and mind siblings (babysitting nonrelated was a bit stricter though).

Again, this mom should’ve been giving a warning and at best, a CPS safety plan where they help her get into appropriate housing and child care. Not criminalized.
There’s no evidence to suggest she hasn’t already had warnings.
 

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I believe this was all answered in the thread. Keep going.
I’m getting there... thanks!
Don’t I know it ... but she had her 2nd child after a few years. My parents had me and my 3 sisters one after the other and they couldn’t provide for us. I guess they had us for the government support or something, it was stressful.

I started working at 15 to help with the bills and they always tried to guilt me at how much they suffered for me when the true victim was me and my damn sisters.
Are you one of my sisters? Your story sounds like mine.

All I’ve heard all my life is how much my mum “struggled” to raise us as if we should be grateful to be born. All she did was take her frustration out on us and beat us. I started paying the gas bill at 16.
 

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ok. but the kids are here now. all of that 'don't bring kids into the world' talk is pointless.

It's not pointless because it can help a young girl in a vulnerable situation to reflect and not make the same mistake

It is what it is, the kids are here there is no turning back time. So all of what you’re saying is good to preach to your own kids/other children you know. Not to a person already struggling.

RIGHT

plus the sister said she had "2/3 kids" which means there is at least another child in this nonsense. she didnt have enough money/sense for the 1st kid,she shouldve never had a second one. PERIOD!

this woman is full of drama & all i'm seeing is a lot of avoidable mistakes(not even counting the fact she was pregnant at 13). i wouldnt be surprised if she was pregnant now.

That "the baby is already here" is hoodrat talk and why we have this sad ass article.


The kids are already here, so go give them away to someone who can do sh!t for them
 

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I’m getting there... thanks!

Are you one of my sisters? Your story sounds like mine.

All I’ve heard all my life is how much my mum “struggled” to raise us as if we should be grateful to be born. All she did was take her frustration out on us and beat us. I started paying the gas bill at 16.

None of my sisters worked as teens, so no, I don’t think I’m one of your siblings lol.

My parents always tried to guilt me the most for some reason, hence why I started to work since my teens. Thank God I’m free of that now and can enjoy my hard earned money for myself.
 

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I believe this was all answered in the thread. Keep going.
I’m getting there... thanks!
Don’t I know it ... but she had her 2nd child after a few years. My parents had me and my 3 sisters one after the other and they couldn’t provide for us. I guess they had us for the government support or something, it was stressful.

I started working at 15 to help with the bills and they always tried to guilt me at how much they suffered for me when the true victim was me and my damn sisters.
Are you one of my sisters? Your story sounds like mine.

All I’ve heard all my life is how much my mum “struggled” to raise us as if we should be grateful to be born. All she did was take her frustration out on us and beat us. I started paying the gas bill at 16.
None of my sisters worked as teens, so no, I don’t think I’m one of your siblings lol.

My parents always tried to guilt me the most for some reason, hence why I started to work since my teens. Thank God I’m free of that now and can enjoy my hard earned money for myself.
You’re probably the most generous because you’re the least secure. You found yourself giving into their guilt trips to please them so you were accepted. That’s me in my family.
 

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That "the baby is already here" is hoodrat talk and why we have this sad ass article.


The kids are already here, so go give them away to someone who can do sh!t for them
Exactly! Sometimes, the best place for a child is not with their mothers. They may be better off in care because this mother looks unstable and that’s no fit state to raise children.
 

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