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And the third woman?

The third woman I call the “mercenary,” and she was the most dangerous person I think I ever met. She scared the sh!t out of me. She would say anything to make you think she loved you. She lied about not having a boyfriend, not living with him, got all the money, gifts, trips, and plane tickets, and when her boyfriend finally threw her out, she came crawling to me. So she ended up moving in with me for a while, and then I got set her up in an apartment. Once, I got really ill, and I told her what was going on, and I said, hey, look we need to have a real relationship, or this isn’t going to work. And to this day, I haven’t heard back.

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I want to meet this girl so bad lmaoo. Cheated and lied but he still got her set up in an apt. He asked for a relationship and she dipped because he was old as shyt. Oml
 

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The third woman I call the “mercenary,” and she was the most dangerous person I think I ever met. She scared the sh!t out of me. She would say anything to make you think she loved you. She lied about not having a boyfriend, not living with him, got all the money, gifts, trips, and plane tickets, and when her boyfriend finally threw her out, she came crawling to me. So she ended up moving in with me for a while, and then I got set her up in an apartment. Once, I got really ill, and I told her what was going on, and I said, hey, look we need to have a real relationship, or this isn’t going to work. And to this day, I haven’t heard back.

So basically she just did what men do all the time?

This is literally what men do on the regular. Fake they love you so they can get things from you (xes, affection), lie, and then bounce when you get sick or things get real.

He only wanted a "real relationship" with her because she wasn't willing to give one. But I bet you he's snubbed the women who were actually looking for that.
 

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I spent $200,000 (£150,000) while dating on the site, and about 90 percent of that was on the third woman. I bought her a lot of jewellery. I’d buy her a ring, she would lose the ring or say it got stolen, and I’d buy her another ring to replace the ring. Then her rent, it was $3,500, $3,600 (£2,700-£2,800), plus a security deposit. I know. It was sort of like, hey dude, what are you doing?
A 50million dollar man just paying $3,500 of rent? I would expect a bit more from someone that has that net worth. Specially in NYC.

He doesn't sounds very generous, like he only helps his gf when she gets behind with her rent or when she doesn't have enough for a plane ticket fare?
 

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"I just found that as women and men age, they get more tainted by their experiences. They create within themselves a negative bias as a standard operating procedure. I went on many dates with women in their 40s, and what I found consistent between all of them was they were immediately looking to find out how I was going to hurt them, even from date one."

its weird how men pretend why they dont know why women become "tainted" with experience. as soon as he uses/abuses those young women, they too will be "tainted" yet he(& the rest of men) refuse to just treat women as human instead of just something to fvck while they are bored

i am so thankful that idgaf about men anymore & i can just use them for money without any hesitation. men are demons,they dont even have souls
 

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Men are delusional, let us call a thing a thing, it is a transactional relationship, where you take care of a woman financially in exchange for companionship and xes at certain times, it is not a exclusive relationship where you are emotionally invested in each other, sir if you are sick, get a nurse, I haven't taken a vow to be with you in sickness and health. If you want the full works, get in a full time relationship.
 

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Cawndi what is wrong with your site double posting
 

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TL;DR alert, only proceed if you want to win at upgrading to wealthy men.



He sounds like a delusional goalpost changing narc asshole. He is paying a fee to prey on the youth and beauty ego boosts of been seen with and catered to by young women. Pay your fare and stop scamming for pussy and companions.

He seems to have issue with the fact that he's a customer and wants the arrangement to seem as non transactional as possible. His age is why, this much I understand, he doesn't want public shame, but had been dating far too young and immature, that's what it means. People need to visually confirm you are not fµck!ng a child, dumbass. He is also an idiot for expecting wifely elder care duties and domestic emotional labor from women he isn't married to, a same problem broke ass men have as well.

All this told me is what I already knew, which is that MOST men of all stripes are dissatified worthless sh!t who want to waste your time/beauty/energy for free or cheap.

They just get more and more demanding and controlling as they go, and the wealthier ones who can actually afford the care and upkeep of a kept woman are SOMETIMES just as cheap and full of sh!t as the regular guys. It doesn't pay to give in to these sort of miserly rich mens every whims because they just come up with new excuses to cost or deny women something, anything, as a control tactic. He will do the bare min if you accept it or allow it. This is proof that the first time a man shows his ass you are supposed to ghost with no explanation and stay ghost until he proves by action that he will accommodate your terms as he expects you to accommodate his.

Everything with rich men is time sensitive negotiations, and they only compromise when life or mother nature shows them she's the b!tch in charge of all, like when his fool ass got sick. He should have paid that girl to come care for him, or just hired a pretty young private nurse and married her like MJ.

Don't delude into thinking covid taught or changed anything about them. Take my word that isolation made anything bad about them incrementally worse, and be prepared. If he was thirsty before he's absolutely parched now. If he was mildly cruel or abusive before, he's a full blown battered now. A frugal penny pinch is now selfish ass scrooge mcduck. A thuggish thuggish bone is now on the brink of his next crime or probably a code in progress. A cheating husband, a lazy bum as baby daddy, an unromantic partner....and so on...crisis doesn't strengthen men, it just entices their cunning and base selves. Maybe not a truly spiritual man as exceptions, but all men have vice, fault, and weaknesses. Know your own and be a step ahead because they usually can't even acknowledge theirs, because they are utterly shameful skeletons. Know that every man has a single skeleton in his closet so ugly that if you saw it, you'd never give him the time of day. A good portion of men in our society are murderers whether convicted, or unfounded. And they all secretly fantasize about harming a woman in some way because that's why society teaches them they can get away with. Every man should think you are loved, cherished, needed, busy, and believe your whereabouts are known by no less than 3 people every time you are with him. I should not have to tell grown women men are dangerous. Rich men just can afford to get away with more, but have more to lose and are much more visible for accountability. Broke ****** will fµck you, lie to you and kill you for free, then jump bail.

If you are limited to xesual interaction, you are a prostitute. And that's fine girl. You are still an amazing woman and are mo less than. There's nothing wrong with xes workers but men view hookers as low value, disposable, and dime a dozen. Yet the oldest profession is one of their favorites, see the hypocrisy of men? They all love whoredom!

They think they want a hoe with a heart, mind, and drive. They definitely want you to want more from them and for yourself than he can ever give you. But you don't need to say this to him! Never say it, in fact. Or you're done. Live like it, look like it, be it! Be intentionally, perpetually unimpressed by him, without being a rude, ungrateful, icy, or indifferent b!tch. In other words be a classic, feminine, elegant, sensual, yet classy woman, almost matronly and grandmotherly in how you respond to his ploys for attention and demands for worship of his wealth. He worships his money and expects you to as well. Don't. Dont talk about his money unless it time to discuss compensation and that is always pregame conversation, not after you see him. Make it clear money is a tool and incentive, but how he treats you is what makes and breaks the deal because you want to feel good about your feelings just like he should. You are not a guilty pleasure, a doll, a toy, or a hobby. Do not let rich men dehumanize you, or you become a human toilet. You should be just so slightly vulnerable enough that he doesn't question your desires, wants and needs, but steely enough that he will not try to fµck with your self esteem to damage your self concept, or sell you unattainable disney fantasies just because he gives you money. This is where girls get the stupid movie dream of ending up his rich inheritess widow in the big hat with it all, or end up in the bitter queen/broken princess conundrum. Maleficent was a cautionary tale!

Furthermore, If he isn't paying for your education/career development, helping cover basic living expenses (especially shelter, home furnishing, transportation/travel, meals, and utilities) or compensating you for extended time spent away from home that you could be using to build up yourself, then he is not worth your time, idgaf how much he makes. Its just as bad as being with a bum or 50/50 lazy ass, because you will find yourself without in the end regardless - you didn't make him invest in your ongoing independence and growth..

That's the best free game you can get from an older wise women on this site. fµck these men and their one sided lying ass sob stories. fµck these pickme and housebroken housfrau. Ignore the tweets of young surgically altered sluts who degrade themselves for the most depreciating gifts. A lot of them get trapped in trashy celeb xes dungeons like the nasty black rapper xes rings/xes party orgies. They all end up strung out, diseased, doing violent pδrn, angry baby mamas, abused spouses, and passarounds nobody keeps. They are not models, influencers, out of work actresses, entourage, or groupies. They are xes slaves and downtrodden xes workers. This is an insta-lie from hell. Do not aspire to be them, they don't win in the end no matter how pretty the photos look. Do not rush to marry or get pregnant for undereducated star-rookie athletes and mumble rappers who are too ignorant and country to care about beating the sh!t out of you in public. That is not bag security, the child support gamble is not wise or sustainable, and you are stuck with a kid by a man you dont know and cant love or respect as a father, meaning instant single mother. No papers, no value. When baby graduates from college at 22, and child support ends, then what??? You think you are gonna be able stack with a kid by a famous guy? Yeah right. Until keeping up appearances/education/security/childcare costs tells your ass different!

Listen to black women who currently HAVE their freedom from mens' whimsy, and have real ownership. See and ask how they got it and follow suit. Do not date or marry beneath your station no matter where you land on the totem pole, especially as bw. Don't have kids out of wedlock, and don't have them for a man who is not able to purchase a home for you to raise them in. And dont have more than three unless you are a farming or religious family bc wtf are you letting him trap you for? Don't help him raise his outside kids unless he compensates this labor, and you are his wife, and only if they dont have the birth mother involvement at all. That's her job. Stepmothers are to be seen, respected, and let be.

Men all want the same thing: 1. either a madonna/hoe surrogate mother figure to blame, shame, and use up, a younger surrogate daughter/girlfriend to impress, train and eventually discard if she lacks skills or other value or matures past him 2. kept sexy escort on a pay per view basis who if played her cards right can maximize the benefit of every dealing with him until the situation is of no more benefit to HER. 3. Consort/confidante that he will not ever see as an equal partner but WILL financially invest in for his own or mutual benefit 4. domestic laborer/babymachine/housewife/home engineer who he will not ever properly compensate or never truly respect for her hard work.

He will pay every single one if she sets her terms, boundaries, and dealbreakers early and does not fold or compromise on his initial appeals to your emotions. He shouldn't even know the full range of your emotions in the 1st year of you knowing him or you have no wild cards or means of expressing your vulnerability or gratitude for his sponsoring later. And yes, you should show it. In measured, controlled doses.

I can tell which one you are, and how to switch but I gots to charge sis. I only donate the handbook to DV victims, female inmates, and the indigent at my choosing. And yes dear heart, I've been them all and am INTACT. I was trained by southern collegiate debutante black excellence and know the value of my wisdom and experience. Soon enough I will be publishing the method for women to have and keep. Meanwhile yall can snack off of the appetizers I've set out in this post. You may think I'm just some arrogant b!tch talking sh!t, but I've thrown white collar mens engagement rings in the garbage, been propositioned to have babies for public figures, and have outsourced services for politicians, celebrities, and clergymen. I bought and paid for almost nothing in my residence yet have gift receipts that prove ownership for all of it. When I'm hungry, I never lay gaze on a bill total. I don't even know my billing due dates, everything is automatically funded from MY accounts.

I still am subject to fluctuating economic conditions and my own human frailty as the inhabitant of a fleshy body. I have struggled, and am not immune to future struggles or setbacks like everyone else. Nor is your sugar daddy. And he's older than you so even more so. Be aware.

The clincher is, I don't ever consider myself "rich" "kept" "bag secured", because that is very subjective, and belies a means of self delusion into false security/temporary comfort - richness is a lifestyle that is needy for the flattery and entertainment of others. That would make me - wait for it - LIKE A MAN. I am a biological woman and understanding what that means from A-Z is fundamental to success over survival. Remain humble, live humble, save/be frugal, and treat your pussy/body like it's made of fine, hand blown antique stained artisanal glass. Polish it, protect it, and display it in ways and scenes that correspond to its immeasurable value. He can see this aura and he'll be honored to bask in the glow. Men are fascinated by happy, detached, lightly aloof and mysterious women who exude just enough warmth to let you know there's something sparkling under the surface. Men see a smiling, confident woman and wonder why she walks so tall.

The sweetness and fake naivete the interviewee is speaking of is just a young girls quiet detachment from being overly opinionated about everything - Either from lack of knowledge/worldliness, or merely politely not giving a fµck. Intentional, yet alert silence is a tool, and good listening skills will get you far. She's not really shy, you just don't know what she cares about and she's in no hurry to tell you all about it for you to weaponize against her eventually. She may not even know yet what matters to her based on age or maturity. If you're sugaring, you better know, just keep the sh!t to yourself until it counts because the rich narcissist is generally a sociopath who chooses when he sees you as a whole being, he considers you mere needs fulfillment anyway. Conserve your energy and control your emotions.

Understanding which one of these categories you are currently in is the best situation for you is crucial, and depending on your age, status, appearance, or abilities you're going into one of these categories - it ain't easy to switch ranks, but doable. Dont get pigeonholed into roles you didn't choose, and if you do get asked or decide to service needs for other roles that aren't a fit for you, TAX his ass because he KNOWS he's trying to get over.

If you feel deeply dissatisfied with life its because you are in the wrong lane and it's time to switch.

A wise, intelligent savvy sugar daddy/baby relationship is one where both parties needs are fulfilled, and they both can exist independently of each other financially because he has paid enough into your ability to thrive, and you are so well cared for that you have stress free leisure time to spend with him no matter his schedule or location. No matter what you do, who you are, or your economic status, do not let a man decide what you are worth to him in any area of life, or you will be consistently lowballed and always come up short. And that's DIAMOND JEWELRY for all women.


Good luck girls.
 
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I needed that schooling...noted for future reference (and at my big age you would think I would already know)...

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Yeah it's called intermittant reinforcement. Google it to delve deeper. It's not a total cutoff or a steady diet. It mimics a slot machine. The unpredictability flips a mental switch that makes them compelled to run.
 

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So basically she just did what men do all the time?

This is literally what men do on the regular. Fake they love you so they can get things from you (xes, affection), lie, and then bounce when you get sick or things get real.

He only wanted a "real relationship" with her because she wasn't willing to give one. But I bet you he's snubbed the women who were actually looking for that.


You betcha! Not for any other reason but he could

That's why he deserves nothing
 

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......I hate it when men talk about dating younger women because women their age are damaged. Older men do nothing but damage the younger women they chase after. Also he is delusional to think that younger woman he is currently with actually likes him. If he stopped helping her, she would disappear. And it also sounds like he gives her the bare minimum but wants her companionship for little to nothing. That previous sugar baby he had before his current drained his pockets like she should have.

I used seeking arrangement years ago and met up with this Caribbean man. He was so thirsty and behaved as if he never had xes before. I kept trying to get to know him and he got impatient and said he was just seeking my vagene. Those fools do not want a connection like they claim. He was extremely successful so I suggested he just hire an escort, this fool had the nerve to say he hates xes workers. Whew Chile never again.
Your experience sounds nothing like the man in op with his current gf. You seem to be projecting it onto them when he already said what it is.
 

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Yeah it's called intermittant reinforcement. Google it to delve deeper. It's not a total cutoff or a steady diet. It mimics a slot machine. The unpredictability flips a mental switch that makes them compelled to run.
I like it, supported with scientific cooberation :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Lmaooooooo the gag is the young women feel the same as the older women but know you’re stupid and pathetic so they milk you. How conflicting and sad. I was so happy to hear that last girl took him for a fµck!ng ride! Kudos to her!!
 

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Ain't nothing worse than an old fool with money and this dude is the posterboy.

This whole article shows that men are clueless and think about relationships much differently than women.

I'm curious about how this man looks bc clearly his money alone aint doing what it's supposed to with these women.
 

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This was a pretty good read. He was honest in a way I didn’t expect. I wonder how old those women were especially that current girlfriend and what he looks like. Lol

Yeah, I was gonna talk sh!t about him, lol. But I won't bc I respect the honesty. I'm tired of men making up obvious dumb stuff when they talk about relationships and women.
 

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Didn’t even look back, just ghosted. I also liked, “would buy her a ring then she’d lose it, or it would get stolen, then he’d buy another.’ Girl must have had some fiya pucci right there.

I like her!
 

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. I went on many dates with women in their 40s, and what I found consistent between all of them was they were immediately looking to find out how I was going to hurt them, even from date one.

That last relationship actually destroyed my ability to trust, and it was one of the factors that broke up the relationships that followed. I would go into relationships prior with, let’s assume she’s not crazy and she’s nice unless there’s proof that something is wrong. . .

Side eye...
 

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Plus, and I think other fonts might have mentioned it already. She did to him Exactly what he wanted to do to these other women. No strings attached relationship with faux feelings, that were transactional depending upon when he was available or not travelling. Basically on his whim. Only thing is that this woman did it better, and left him feeling some kind of way with everythig he projected onto older women.

Nice, I don’t know if there’s a psychological term for it, maybe transferrance, but good job to her.
 

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So basically she just did what men do all the time?

This is literally what men do on the regular. Fake they love you so they can get things from you (xes, affection), lie, and then bounce when you get sick or things get real.

He only wanted a "real relationship" with her because she wasn't willing to give one. But I bet you he's snubbed the women who were actually looking for that.

She dipped bc she knew what "real relationship" meant. He wants all that sh!t for free and no commitment. Men need better self awareness. You can't just keep taking and taking from women. Men think they just want xes, but they really want all the things having a woman brings into their life. The problem is they don't want to bring what they're supposed to. He doesn't want to spend time, be there emotionally, and give women what they need out of a relationship- so all he has left is money. Take the money away, and he has nothing to offer. "Real relationship" my ass. She did the right thing. He was trying to play her for a fool, and she saw right through that.
 

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......I hate it when men talk about dating younger women because women their age are damaged. Older men do nothing but damage the younger women they chase after. Also he is delusional to think that younger woman he is currently with actually likes him. If he stopped helping her, she would disappear. And it also sounds like he gives her the bare minimum but wants her companionship for little to nothing. That previous sugar baby he had before his current drained his pockets like she should have.

I used seeking arrangement years ago and met up with this Caribbean man. He was so thirsty and behaved as if he never had xes before. I kept trying to get to know him and he got impatient and said he was just seeking my vagene. Those fools do not want a connection like they claim. He was extremely successful so I suggested he just hire an escort, this fool had the nerve to say he hates xes workers. Whew Chile never again.

I concur. Older men are some of the most thirstiest men of all aged groups. Some of them can be smooth but there are far more who want to move incredibly too fast with little benefits on the table.

The majority of them aren’t even that fit or attractive but want to be treated as an equal. They need to understand that younger women expect them to have their sh!t together and be willing to give generously. As sh!tty as younger men in your age group can be, there is still the possibility of meeting a younger man with everything you want. Why sugar daddies don’t get this is beyond me.

Older men don’t want to play their part then get mad when women aren’t interested or “play games” as they like to say.
 

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The part that kills me is him expecting her to take care of him when he was sick, reminds me of this dude I was dating years back, we had ben dating very briefly and this dude had the nerve to guilt trip me into accompanying him to the hospital for a "cancer scare". If he had mentioned "hey I have to go to the hospital and I'm nervous, do you mind coming with me........" I may have been a little more inclined to be nice and go; instead the convo goes

dude: I have to go to the hospital tomorrow
me: is everything ok
dude: mentions something about a cancer scare
me: being empathetic, say I hope everything goes well, trying to be positive
dude: aren't you going to come with me
me: oh i'm sorry I have class
dude: so you're just gonna let me go alone and let someone else snatch your man
me: visibly confused "that's fine"
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You see the pattern here, men try to guilt you by offering you what they think you want in order to get what they need from you.
 

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Men love idealistically, so yes
I do not disagree with this at all. I think men tend to fall for the idea of a woman vs the actual woman. Like the dude in the article, he idealized dating a younger woman and the actual experience didn't pan out. I also think this is why men tend to have "types" way more often than women. They associate a woman's physical traits (e.g. blonds are bubbly and fun) with character traits and expect to have similar experiences with women who look the same. I think men are way more likely to have exes who all look the same because of this.
 

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I’m pretty sure he’s black. Years ago I conversed with another black man from that site who also worked in tech and lived in New York. He would always brag about being the “trillest” -_- Had the biggest head you could imagine.
Not the trillest
 

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So when he got sick he wanted his sugar baby to turn into a girlfriend so she could take care of him and she was having none of it and bounced. LMAO for daaaaays. Good for her!
Bruh thought she was going to be going to his dialysis appointments with him
 

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"The girl I’m dating now, I was eating at a restaurant outside and she walked by, dropped her phone, it broke in a million pieces and I helped her pick it up. And she ended up sitting and having a glass of wine with me."

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Buy a smashed up phone off ebay, get dressed up and drop it in front of high end restaurants....that's game right there
I have an old cracked iPhone 10. Might come in handy if this marriage doesn’t work out.

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