InHiding
Headed for the bottom & riding you all the way
Yeah, I saw her story as well, it's at the house where Chris used to live.
Yeah, I saw her story as well, it's at the house where Chris used to live.
Could she have possibly been ble to twist the foundation mess to be all his doing/fault. I think that would send him over the edge, having people thnk he "stole" money that was supposed to be going to charity. Taking the kids away form him and the charity FU are the only 2 things I can think of that would be so bad to cause him to decide "I'm done".
Side note - when you hear of middle aged men who commit suicide it is generally due to divorce/losing the kids and/or money issues
Bainbridge mentioned that she was using his relapse as an excuse to leave him so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she threatened him with the kids as well. But I just can't shake the feeling that it was more than that. Was she holding something over his head? Accusing him of something? Threatening him?
His tox came back clean so ..... it makes no sense to me that he would react to this kind of threat with the ultimate act. I don't know...just one more WTF.
The comments on that one....wowee.
Here you go:
CC 2017 Timeline (created by: CopperPipeDream and Stolen Prayer)
CopperPipeDream said: ↑
Yes.
I got ya! I added a few of my own notes
2016 saw CC perform 69 solo shows spread out over 28 countries, 15 SG shows and 8 TOTD shows. All with seemingly good reviews. He also began composing the theme for The Promise. There may have been more performances but I'm going by what's listed on this site.
Search for setlists: Soundgarden (page 2) | setlist.fm
Also worth noting, from Rolling Stone....http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...-tour-20160307
One dollar from each ticket sold supports the Chris And Vicky CornellFoundation, which raises funds and partners with charitable organizations to mobilize support for children facing problems including homelessness, poverty, abuse and neglect.
We know the BI was posted January 17 and the less than stellar AIB performance was January 20. Whether the two are related is not known but is a possibility. But, this is the first performance from Chris, in recent times, that he was seemingly "fµcked up" which is echoed in the comments under the YT videos, all dating back to 5 months ago.
I've also gone through CC's FB and twitter, (to the first of this year) trying to get a glimpse into his mindset as it's all we really have. While I realize that some of his posts were either Clare or Vk, you can kinda tell which ones were his and those are the ones I've chosen. I'm listing performance dates with tweets, FB posts, and what we know. Please correct me if I screw some up as I'm going by memory here.
ALSO if anyone was at any of these concerts could give us an idea of what his performance was like, that would be great. Just trying to get a timeline and understanding as to what the hell happened.....so here goes.
Saturday, January 14 Brad Pitt hung out with rockers Sting and Chris Cornell at a Malibu charity event
Just before that 19 minute he also says something to the effect that for yrs he's been trying to please family and friends and people close to him and he realized one day that he needs to just be himself and if no one likes it then "they can f*ck off".
1-17 - BI is posted
1-20 - Anti Inaugural Ball (Audioslave) ( Bad Reviews)
2-6 - "Worried moon, I'm afraid of what's to come" (CC FB post)
2-22 - "Seeking a friend for the end of the World" (CC FB post video)
Valentines Day ???
February-March - CC mainly focused on The Promise
3-1 - "It's our time in the Universe and I don't mind if we're blessed or cursed" (CC FB post)
March 25th Elton John's 70th birthday party in LA (looks really thin)
4-5 - CC posts pic of him and daughter Toni at the Vatican
4-6 The Promise Premier LONDON – Toni only
4-7 POSTING DATE Sitting with my stunning wife @vickycornell at the Vatican screening of @thepromisefilm (VK glasses not looking at CC or camera)
4-7-8 Anna Vissi in Greece
4-9 - "She's going to change the world, but she can't change me" (CC FB post)
(Bainbridge states this is the time when things started to go south)
4-10 Refugee camp visit w/ VK & Toni the rocker headed to a refugee camp in Athens, Greece
4-12 - The Promise Premier LA (Vicky only no kids)
4-15 - "It's all right; it's just the end of the world" (CC FB post)
4-18 The Promise Premier New York (Unhappy family photos)
4-19 - Solo performance Jimmy Fallon (NY)
4-21 - Baltimore - Soundgarden
4-22 - Solo performance CBS This Morning (NY)
4-23 - "I may not be the keeper of the flame, but I am the keeper" (CC FB post)
4-26 - "I got up feeling so down, I got off being sold out" ( CC FB post)
4-28 - Tampa - Soundgarden
4-29 - Jacksonville FL - Soundgarden
4-30 - Ft. Myers FL - Soundgarden
5-2 - "Be Yourself - just came from...all the horrendous, stupid mistakes I've made in my personal life and wanting to be able to make up for those things....that's the one thing about getting older that's better." (CC FB post)
5-5 Soundgarden in Charlotte, N.C. ...where the bottle of Ativan came from
5-6 - Tuscaloosa - Soundgarden
5-7 - Memphis (Beale Street) - Soundgarden
Plane incident
5-8 Anniversary – no tweets
5-10 - Indy - Soundgarden
5-10 - "We spoke with Chris about playing a few Temple shows to just breathe some life into the songs we never got to play live. It felt like there was some unfinished business. " Jeff Ament" (Photo of Jeff and Chris) (CC FB post)
5-10 - Mike McCready video talking about Birth Ritual and Singles (CC FB post)
5-11 - "I laughed at love, it was a big mistake" (CC FB post)
5-12 - Council Bluff IA - Soundgarden
5-12 - Foundation goes dark
5-13 - MIL Panic Attack
5-13 - Somerset WI - Soundgarden
5-14 - Kansas City - Soundgarden (Bad reviews)
5-14 - Over the top Mothers Day tweets to VK and MIL
5-15 - CC in NY with VK
5-16 - CC in NY with VK
5-16 - "What I look forward to the most -- because I tour so much, especially the last couple of years, by myself -- is the camaraderie, It's what we missed when we weren't a band. (CC FB post video of Soundgarden guys)
5-17 -"I'm the shape of the hole inside your heart" (CC FB post Video)
5-17 -#Detroit finally back to Rock City!!! #nomorebullshit (CC tweet)
5-17 - Detroit – Soundgarden
Forgive me if this is a bit OT, but I was watching the infamous Singles Premiere Party MTV footage (looking for SG) where Eddie is super-drunk and I noticed something he said in the very beginning of State of Love & Trust...
"Everybody loves us, everybody loves our town"
I love that book. Super drunk Eddie is always hilarious. And then I got sucked into the drunk Eddie k-hole of YouTube.
Have a good night, everyone!
I think that's very possible and my personal opinion is it was everything listed in that BI and 10x more and he was blindsided by it with a major tour coming up.
With his only possible "crime" being a fling or a connection to somebody whose body temp rose above freezing....She was busted, projected it all onto him and then swooped into victim mode before he could even wrap his head around it all which may have prompted a brief relapse (AIB) and that was her ticket that she ran all the way to her lawyer. She had to get ahead of the money train.....
Oh, not doubting you at all, but is there actually proof that this happened?
(I can totally see it happening)
You know, I think she may have said she would tell the world he lied about his sobriety. He was proud of staying sober! I think she taunted him with that, along with 25 other things. She certainly has kept her word, if she did. VK sucks, fµck her.
Yikes! Google has the lyrics from "Your Soul Today" under that title.
You're right, Worried Moon is hard to follow. Sounds like he's lost in a way.
"...Worried Moon ... was written with SS in mind ... every time I hear the song I think more more that this true."I referred to Worried Moon feeling like it was written with SS in mind. IMO Chris and SS were back to friends again after he realized what a douche he was for treating her so badly. Realizing that all came out of his infatuation with the b!tch VK. His eyes finally opened to VK's ways over the years and he had many regrets. It seems he has mended many of his relationships with family and friends. I would imagine when he was in Seattle he would see Lily and SS would be there. I think he shared concerns with SS on his marriage (I think VK has been threatening divorce for several years...one of her go tos for controlling) Chris and SS have a history of almost 2 decades before their divorce. I think If SS gave her opinions and concerns of the controlling K's he would have something to think about. Let's face she probably got in his face too about how could he let the Ks treat Lily so poorly. Anyway we all know there was no prenup so he would lose big time and honestly I don't think he would have cared about that. I think he just wanted to be with his kids. And isn't Moonchild about SS? Chris did say his songs Lyrics will reveal themselves in time. Again that's just my thoughts. Sorry this was so long, but every time I hear the song I think more more that this true.
Is LR throwing some shade at VK? "I always have it #lookinggood"
EXACTLY.
I don't want a f'in statue. Cuz of this.
Only thing that comes to mind is she MUST have used the children as a threat (Taking them away from him /it is them who he loved the most) amongst other things and the children finding THAT out would hurt them.
Only thing that comes to mind is she MUST have used the children as a threat (Taking them away from him /it is them who he loved the most) amongst other things and the children finding THAT out would hurt them.
Those aren't from the song. I think they somehow got on some sites as the lyrics to the song Worried Moon. The real lyrics are here:
Chris Cornell – Worried Moon Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
In the live videos of the song, he introduces it as a song about talking to the moon in the way that the Tom Hanks character talked to the volleyball in Castaway.
I don't follow the narrative in the song very well so it's hard to understand for me. This part made me think the song could be about SS:
"Cuz I have moved to another coast
With a new love to call my own
Maybe one day you can bathe us
In your blue light"
But then the "I dream of a ghost of a love that has died, or maybe not, but it haunts me now" - to whom is he referring? Same with the "only want me for a friend" part.
They should have done it while Chris was still alive. I hate these kind of posthumous fuckery.
Then of course we have Vicky accepting on Chris' behalf which is adding to the fuckery.
Please boo this cunt off the stage like they did with Courtney
I could absolutely see her doing so. And I think that's what hurts the most for me, is he had gotten sooo far and overcome sooo much and was so proud...Goddamn her.
I could absolutely see her doing so. And I think that's what hurts the most for me, is he had gotten sooo far and overcome sooo much and was so proud...Goddamn her.
I feel you totally - it is soul killing and heart wrenching how this woman has used his struggles for the past 14 years like a goddamn leash, cattle prod, bully whip. I've never been like those obsessed CC fans like Messy Nessy who have written 8,000,000,000 words on the Internet analyzing his life through his lyrics (I LOVE his writing & could quote him for days, but I honestly have never felt like I could see into his soul & really *know* him ffs through his lyrics) but holy fµck, how in the fµck could our SuperHero have been such the opposite from the man who wrote the lyrics for "Call Me a Dog"?!?!?
This is why when she immediately brought up the "relapsed addict" crap & said she'd fight for him, my first thought was "put your gloves on, b!tch." I realize that unlike COB, Rose Hurt, Cholo Polo, etc I never really "knew" Chris Cornell, but for some reason - and maybe I really am some insane delusional fan stuck in my teenybopper years, but I feel like I knew him better than any of that crowd.
so who lives there now??Yeah, I saw her story as well, it's at the house where Chris used to live.
Bainbridge mentioned that she was using his relapse as an excuse to leave him so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she threatened him with the kids as well. But I just can't shake the feeling that it was more than that. Was she holding something over his head? Accusing him of something? Threatening him?
His tox came back clean so ..... it makes no sense to me that he would react to this kind of threat with the ultimate act. I don't know...just one more WTF.
oooooooooooooooooo
Is LR throwing some shade at VK? "I always have it #lookinggood"
To whomever posted this article a few pages back, thank you. It's an excellent piece and it made me cry!
Growing Up with Chris Cornell
Lucille Ball's hometown in ny state did that. A hideous statue nicknamed "Scary Lucy" was installed. The locals hated it and managed to band together to have it removed. The sculptor put up a fuss but he lost, thankfully.
Susan and Lilyso who lives there now??
His tox came back clean so ..... it makes no sense to me that he would react to this kind of threat with the ultimate act. I don't know...just one more WTF.
I referred to Worried Moon feeling like it was written with SS in mind. IMO Chris and SS were back to friends again after he realized what a douche he was for treating her so badly. Realizing that all came out of his infatuation with the b!tch VK. His eyes finally opened to VK's ways over the years and he had many regrets. It seems he has mended many of his relationships with family and friends. I would imagine when he was in Seattle he would see Lily and SS would be there. I think he shared concerns with SS on his marriage (I think VK has been threatening divorce for several years...one of her go tos for controlling) Chris and SS have a history of almost 2 decades before their divorce. I think If SS gave her opinions and concerns of the controlling K's he would have something to think about. Let's face she probably got in his face too about how could he let the Ks treat Lily so poorly. Anyway we all know there was no prenup so he would lose big time and honestly I don't think he would have cared about that. I think he just wanted to be with his kids. And isn't Moonchild about SS? Chris did say his songs Lyrics will reveal themselves in time. Again that's just my thoughts. Sorry this was so long, but every time I hear the song I think more more that this true.
To whomever posted this article a few pages back, thank you. It's an excellent piece and it made me cry!
Growing Up with Chris Cornell
I feel you totally - it is soul killing and heart wrenching how this woman has used his struggles for the past 14 years like a goddamn leash, cattle prod, bully whip. I've never been like those obsessed CC fans like Messy Nessy who have written 8,000,000,000 words on the Internet analyzing his life through his lyrics (I LOVE his writing & could quote him for days, but I honestly have never felt like I could see into his soul & really *know* him ffs through his lyrics) but holy fµck, how in the fµck could our SuperHero have been such the opposite from the man who wrote the lyrics for "Call Me a Dog"?!?!?
This is why when she immediately brought up the "relapsed addict" crap & said she'd fight for him, my first thought was "put your gloves on, b!tch." I realize that unlike COB, Rose Hurt, Cholo Polo, etc I never really "knew" Chris Cornell, but for some reason - and maybe I really am some insane delusional fan stuck in my teenybopper years, but I feel like I knew him better than any of that crowd.
I was doing fine 'til I got to this: "We’ve grown so numb to watching our heroes die. I was surprised by my lack of surprise. I went to the gym, came home and then I wept. I wept for hours. I bawled my eyes out. It was like I being hit by a bus. It was like losing a friend."
THIS.Only thing that comes to mind is she MUST have used the children as a threat (Taking them away from him /it is them who he loved the most) amongst other things and the children finding THAT out would hurt them.
xes tape?
Let me clarify. I didn't read the story (can't see it). If this isn't in Seattle then my previous response may be incorrect. I was presuming based on the tag.
The foundation. I need to know more. I need dmiller to come back (if she wants and has info).
He'd just visited those refugees. They were spending money on renovations. The shame of the money he thought he was collecting not going where it should?? I still can't help but think it was one of *several* factors.