It will be interesting to hear what Tobyn has to say about Nikki 6.
He used post on the org but they deleted a lot of it.
I wonder which one of the mods did it.
Oh. I didn't know that.Many times threads were hidden for moderation but weren't deleted. Sometimes they were unhidden and available again if it didn't require a major re-working of the thread.
I know. I was taken aback a little when he said that. Nikki Sixx admitted to how bad he treated her. But he couldn't be all that bad because he would do anything for her family? Her family wasn't in a relationship with that asshole. Denise was. I feel so bad for her. Sometimes I wonder who was in her corner.Naw. I'm telling you right now, her sister sounds suspect taking that POS side, no disrespect. Maybe there was some jealousy from her end, I don't know what happened, not pretending to...all I"m saying is, you can't punch my sister in the face and I take your side on anything. Something's off. The way he talked about her and the frequency he ran his mouth about her, tells me all I need to know. Also, the fact that Denise didn't pick one of her sisters to be in charge of her estate may speak to their closeness. Sisters often have complicated relationships..but I digress....
I'd love to hear whatever Tobyn shared with us but Nikki is a racist.
Nikki has taken that derogatory image of Denise all the way to the stage via that book he wrote.I know. I was taken aback a little when he said that. Nikki Sixx admitted to how bad he treated her. But he couldn't be all that bad because he would do anything for her family? Her family wasn't in a relationship with that asshole. Denise was. I feel so bad for her. Sometimes I wonder who was in her corner.
If Denise hadn't been deep in her addiction, she wouldn't have looked twice at that beast. I think he knows that. That's why he tries so hard to portray her in a certain way. He also knows she didn't love him. Men have fragile egos.Nikki has taken that derogatory image of Denise all the way to the stage via that book he wrote.
It's vile.
So, so true.If Denise hadn't been deep in her addiction, she wouldn't have looked twice at that beast. I think he knows that. That's why he tries so hard to portray her in a certain way. He also knows she didn't love him. Men have fragile egos.
Yes! All of this. Plus, I hate to be a broken record but his prose/manuscript/actions in the public eye tells me he's a racist. He's had how many f'd up relationships with white blonde bimbos??????????....yet you're still pressed 30 plus literal years about Ms. Denise? You're mad that a "Black" woman had you in your feelings when you're supposed to be superior to her. Not b!tch! :If Denise hadn't been deep in her addiction, she wouldn't have looked twice at that beast. I think he knows that. That's why he tries so hard to portray her in a certain way. He also knows she didn't love him. Men have fragile egos.
.......Did she ever mention Billy??? @Tobyn BrownI have Denise's contract regarding Nikki's book. It's handy, I'll read it more closely.
Rockers that I have run into how have learned of my connection to Denise, the Rockers that are into Nikki have shown me nothing but respect for Denise and have been adamant about referring to her ONLY as The Evangelist Denise Matthews.
I don't doubt that Denise was wild/self-destructive. DeBorah has told me some unexpected things that I don't want to know and that I can never repeat.
I haven't read his book so can't explain if it is all something Denise had approved or not, but I have no reason to think otherwise because I know there is a contract.
She would have made the perfect Catwoman. She played a seductive villain in some of her TV appearances and completely pulled it off.
If Prince's fans were as loyal & protective as Vanity's these last almost 7 years would've been a completely different experience.
Some fonts on here aren't going to like this but many of them see themselves in Vanity/Denise.
I think it has more to do with the fact that she's dead and people want to respect her memory.
Agreed.Some fonts on here aren't going to like this but many of them see themselves in Vanity/Denise. Because she was so beautiful, they somehow wish they were her, they see themselves in her and so look at her through rose colored glasses and get defensive and take it personally if someone says something about her they disagree with. I'm not in favor of trashing Vanity/Denise (far from it; I admire her very much), but in her later life, Denise was very open and honest about how much of a brat she was during her Vanity years, and why. Because she'd been xesually and physically abused by her father so she became rebellious against all men including Prince, and her beauty allowed her to get away with being as rebellious as she was, until of course, it no longer worked for her, meaning it almost killed her.
There's your truth. @Plutonian
Agreed. Like ALL of us, she lacked coping skills, at that age, to deal with what happened to her and she acted out in self-destructive ways UNTIL she knew better and then she DID better.Some fonts on here aren't going to like this but many of them see themselves in Vanity/Denise. Because she was so beautiful, they somehow wish they were her, they see themselves in her and so look at her through rose colored glasses and get defensive and take it personally if someone says something about her they disagree with. I'm not in favor of trashing Vanity/Denise (far from it; I admire her very much), but in her later life, Denise was very open and honest about how much of a brat she was during her Vanity years, and why. Because she'd been xesually and physically abused by her father so she became rebellious against all men including Prince, and her beauty allowed her to get away with being as rebellious as she was, until of course, it no longer worked for her, meaning it almost killed her.
There's your truth. @Plutonian
Thank you for saying this. You’re absolutely right. Twitter is ripe with these fammy fams who like to dish out opinions but can’t handle it when someone else does the same. Can’t stand their asses.I've also 4 many yrs witnessed fams live vicariously thru a number of his exes, & *him.
( *they live/work in purple shrines, have a symbol on their car, back & neck, ram P dwn their colleagues/relatives/partners/childrens/strangers throats 247365, have purple anti-social media accs that "keep the legacy alive!" etc... then when any fan has the audacity 2 go off the hateful cherry picked groundhog day simplistic script, stand in his corner & against the tide....... these same purple cult mfs tell them, every single time, - not 2 worship him! Lmmfao!
Were Vanity and Prince friends until the end??? I remember reading in a Jet magazine article that she had not spoken to him in over ten years.Agreed.
I've also 4 many yrs witnessed fams live vicariously thru a number of his exes, & *him.
( *they live/work in purple shrines, have a symbol on their car, back & neck, ram P dwn their colleagues/relatives/partners/childrens/strangers throats 247365, have purple anti-social media accs that "keep the legacy alive!" etc... then when any fan has the audacity 2 go off the hateful cherry picked groundhog day simplistic script, stand in his corner & against the tide....... these same purple cult mfs tell them, every single time, - not 2 worship him! Lmmfao! - he had human flaws! Lol! (like a fckn lifelong fan dnt kno bout Mr gemini mind tricks funky ways lmao!) - It's fine 2 talk abt them look he grew! ..yeah right let's sit in the dirt all day & call it discussion, depth psychology lmao, nuff of em only fck with P/Mpls sound, they ain't music lovers they're stans aka dorks & stalkers.
they might wanna ask themselves, & a shrink, why they've spent thousands & years on such a nasty piece of work that they throw under the bus & sellout at every given opportunity )
The number of exes stans in P fan online spaces, & content re exes, & his relationships, has increased 10 fold since he died
I would love it if ppl reminded themselves of P & Vanity's ages when they sit in judgement on their relationship for the 46963247986532 time. They were both still working out their childhoods, growing, fckn up, learning, & in hollyweird/the music Biz.......
I dnt see Vanity thru rose tinted glasses, but i have a soft spot 4 her 4 a few reasons, & I think she, & he, had good hearts at the end of the day, & they were good friends til the end.
I see some of the statements her stans make here & elsewhere re her, & her & P... &... yeah, that's all waaay too criiinge 4 me, especially from the grown women.
Were Vanity and Prince friends until the end??? I remember reading in a Jet magazine article that she had not spoken to him in over ten years.
Did they reconnect shortly before her death?
She was probably trying to get him to be baptized in Jesus Name and be filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking with other tongues.Her family members said that they stayed in contact until 2012-2013.
Well said!!Agreed. Like ALL of us, she lacked coping skills, at that age, to deal with what happened to her and she acted out in self-destructive ways UNTIL she knew better and then she DID better.
Her Spirit, her essence, was always the beautiful soul she returned to being before she suffered the abuse by her father. And, because of P's background, they were drawn to each other but unable to stay together. Doesn't mean they didn't care for and respect each other throughout their lives (as we've seen, they did).
I always hope that in another lifetime, they get to have what they didn't in this one.
You're welcome.Thank you for saying this. You’re absolutely right. Twitter is ripe with these fammy fams who like to dish out opinions but can’t handle it when someone else does the same. Can’t stand their asses.
I dnt kno 4 a fact when exactly they last communicated, but I think there's info out there re them being in contact (sporadic or otherwise over decades) way longer than ppl thought, I believe at least til a few yrs b4 he passed.Were Vanity and Prince friends until the end??? I remember reading in a Jet magazine article that she had not spoken to him in over ten years.
Did they reconnect shortly before her death?
She was probably trying to get him to be baptized in Jesus Name and be filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking with other tongues.
He was probably trying to get her to read The Watchtower.
Some fonts on here aren't going to like this but many of them see themselves in Vanity/Denise. Because she was so beautiful, they somehow wish they were her, they see themselves in her and so look at her through rose colored glasses and get defensive and take it personally if someone says something about her they disagree with. I'm not in favor of trashing Vanity/Denise (far from it; I admire her very much), but in her later life, Denise was very open and honest about how much of a brat she was during her Vanity years, and why. Because she'd been xesually and physically abused by her father so she became rebellious against all men including Prince, and her beauty allowed her to get away with being as rebellious as she was, until of course, it no longer worked for her, meaning it almost killed her.
There's your truth. @Plutonian
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.......and lemme drop this lyric in here, re something i have pointed out b4 -- Ps chronological age Vs the stunted growth he experienced in certain areas until at least his mid 30s, when life dealt him some hard licks, one after the other.I would love it if ppl reminded themselves of P & Vanity's ages when they sit in judgement on their relationship for the 46963247986532 time. They were both still working out their childhoods, growing, fckn up, learning, & in hollyweird/the music Biz.......
Agreed. As you've pointed out, he overcame so much - by himself for the most part - that it's amazing he made it through in the way he did (and for as long as he did). I know people hate Larry, but Larry had an anchoring position in his life when he really needed it and for that, I'm grateful. Whatever Prince got in return from Larry (and his family), he sure didn't get from any of his "friends" or the women in his life, so...Stunted growth... something that's not unheard of on that path...
In show-biz since a teen; managers, assistants, cleaners, chefs, security, publicists, accountants, lawyers, big corps, yes-men/women, women wanna be with u/be put on by u, men want in on the deal, etc etc etc...
Jesse said he didn't even kno how 2 use a washing machine...
Mpls... Big fish. Small pond.
Difficult youth...
Artist...
Show-Biz...
The industry...
Media...
Fame. Big Money. Connections. Influence. Power. Glamour. Hype. Ego.
...Lotta ppl that walked that path frm a young age didn't do too well at the end..., & some of their stories were very short...
He went from Mrs Bernadette's house to......
truth is we coulda lost him long time b4, in more ways than 1, & he needs commending 4 everything he maintained.., holistically, in the face of.., but that's a looong story 4 another time & prob never
- that it's amazing he made it through in the way he did (and for as long as he did). I know people hate Larry, but Larry had an anchoring position in his life when he really needed it and for that, I'm grateful. Whatever Prince got in return from Larry (and his family), he sure didn't get from any of his "friends" or the women in his life, so...
It also killed him before it was his tme to go.His faith and music kept him going.
It also killed him before it was his tme to go.