LOOOOL @ your sigWhere is Got2breal when you need them?
Think about the women she considers icons, Sarah Vaughn, Lena Horne, Ella Fitzgerald. These are Black women who were touring and acting during Jim Crow segregation. Older Black people have this tension with struggle. They find struggle noble. Those who persevere through struggle are given high acclaim.
The younger artists, though they do have struggles are the descendants of the pathways that women Dionne considers icons created for them. Which is why she likes Mary J. Blige. Again, a woman who has triumphed over domestic violence, addiction, and the other routine violence that Black women experience like misogyny, white supremacy, et. al. to make a name for herself as a singer and actor.
I love her music but many people only know Dionne as a purveyor of shade. So I hope she uses her interviews to discuss more of her music.
Oh, really?! Ya don't say?! Well naw, if dat ain't da weed tah callin' da crackpipe high!Damn. Had to make it personal. Yall get so testy over Phoni on this site. I wish you guys would put that same energy into actively supporting his projects. Lol
Says who though??? Brandy came at a time when Black teen artists were really rising and having great success. I have yet to see an era as like during the 1990s where you had the likes of Brandy, Tevin Campbell, Monica, Aaliyah, Usher, in naming several, to having the type of success on both the R&B/Soul and Pop charts. Each of those artists mentioned are every much still played, heard, and even relevant with the younger generation today.Brandy hasn't had a truly successful album since Never Say Never.
She is no one's icon, considering she barely made it past album #2.
Whether Toni is considered an icon to some, or not with many, she does remain as any and/or all of respected opinions. However, what can never be denied is Braxton's impressive presence on the music scene back during the 1990s. Her first two albums were staples in their own right, that in which helped to define both an era and a genre that was long in having to take a backseat.You guys are in here attacking the legendary Dionne Warwick over her opinion but can't say exactly what it is that makes Phoni and Brandy icons.
Dionne has more collateral than this whole entire site combined, squared, times 150. I'll take her word over yours any day. And I been saying this on this site.
Phoni Braxton is NOT iconic. Brandy is NOT iconic.
Would you say Mary is an icon?Whether Toni is considered an icon to some, or not with many, does remain as any and/or all of respected opinions. However, what can never be denied is Braxton's impressive presence on the music scene back during the 1990s. Her first two albums were staples in their own right, that in which helped to define both an era and a genre that was long in having to take a backseat.
Imo, she most certainly is. Blige defined a time and era. When she debuted onto the music scene, there was nothing out to sound like Blige, or any other solo woman artist to even look like her. Next year marks the 30th anniversary of What's The 411?. That album remains a signature landmark. Blige has even been nominated to be inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. To me, if that isn't ICON status, then I actually don't know what else what.Would you say Mary is an icon?
OMG. The world is ending. You actually said something positive about MJB!!! Holy sh!t. That is a first.Imo, she most certainly is. Blige defined a time and era. When she debuted onto the music scene, there was nothing out to sound like Blige, or any other solo woman artist to even look like her. Next year marks the 30th anniversary of What's The 411?. That album remains a signature landmark. Blige has even been nominated to be inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. To me, if that isn't ICON status, then I actually don't know what else what.
LmaoOMG. The world is ending. You actually said something positive about MJB!!! Holy sh!t. That is a first.
Are you feeling okay, bro? You got the COVID?? What's going on?
Chaka seemed so hateful and high in that interview.She said “F Ariana Grande”.I’m not a Ari fan and she has a right to her opinions but she could be more graceful in her delivery. She also said she wasn’t doing no collaborations with “Heifers”.
I wish HATERETHA was here to put this ol heffa in her place
Dionne, you was never THE VOICE mamas everyone she named, in their prime, could outsing her in her prime, and that's a mf fact!
I know this thread is old but I just had to quote this for emphasis. It was all “big bad hive” in that thread.It’s ironic to see these responses. When hive said some of the same stuff we were insecure and a disgusting group of people. Now the tune is different that it is your protected favorites.
Hive stay clockin who people truly are but y’all can never see the truth until it’s someone other than Beyoncé.
Woah, Dionne had an amazing voice. But just bc these legends SAY these singers aren't iconic doesn't mean that their opinion means anything. Bc if that's the case, they will believe that legends end with them and their class and that's it. And that's totally unfairI wish HATERETHA was here to put this ol heffa in her place
Dionne, you was never THE VOICE mamas everyone she named, in their prime, could outsing her in her prime, and that's a mf fact!
Woah, Dionne had an amazing voice. But just bc these legends SAY these singers aren't iconic doesn't mean that their opinion means anything. Bc if that's the case, they will believe that legends end with them and their class and that's it. And that's totally unfair
She was the first pop star. Her voice got better with age, peaking in the 80s. I wish I knew the song that inspired Whitney's vocals for one of her ballads.The kids with a lack of knowledge are always trying to come for Dionne’s vocals but the truth of the matter is many of the singers listed wouldn’t be able to sing Dionne’s most difficult songs as they were written. Dionne’s musical ear and control was nothing to play with.
The kids with a lack of knowledge are always trying to come for Dionne’s vocals but the truth of the matter is many of the singers listed wouldn’t be able to sing Dionne’s most difficult songs as they were written. Dionne’s musical ear and control was nothing to play with.
She was the first pop star. Her voice got better with age, peaking in the 80s. I wish I knew the song that inspired Whitney's vocals for one of her ballads.
yeah we not going to say this was an average singer
Knowing Aretha she would agree with Dionne. Most of Dionne’s peers feel the same way. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise.
Aretha would WHAT????!!!! Hell no, she felt Dionne was a liar and beneath her in terms of talent. She also disliked Wendy Williams for a period for playing in her face about this beef and her commentary on it. That's why the infamous Wendy vs Aretha interview exists where she put Wendy in check once and for all.
Oh nah yall not gon sit here and lie on the dead, that's devilish as hell!
Don't make me start tagging fonts from old Aretha vs Dionne threads, fall back!
I was there in Catfish, Cornbread, and Collards Alley honey!
Aretha went to her grave disgusted with Dionne’s messy antics. Dionne lied on her and was a foul sh!t starter, don't come for the queen of soul ever in your life baby!
How the Aretha Franklin and Dionne Warwick feud began
First off Aretha had made similar statements about the young divas so yeah she would agree.
As far as talent goes Aretha and Dionne had great respect for each other as artists but definitely saw each other as competition. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter who you or I thinks sings better they both had 50 plus year careers so….
You gon read them attachments I posted or not because this is not a matter of opinion, the woman wrote a long form document to the press about it and I'm not gon post it for you bc you too lazy to read it. You got your snippets let it go and move on and stop being determined to be loud and wrong. Aretha did not like this woman.