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I've seen some radical feminists say feminism is dying. Do you think that's the case among young black women?


I think more black women are unapologetically putting their interests first. I'm seeing more black women unapologetically identify as a woman first. I don't think that's necessary to be a feminist, but I think it shows that more black women are questioning not making women's rights and issues their first priority.
 

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I think there are a lot of women who are practicing personal feminism or investing in feminist causes without necessarily claiming the feminist label.

I also think there are a lot of young, educated women who identify as feminists because liberal feminist thought is incredibly prevalent at colleges and universities.

Radical feminists don't really consider liberal feminism, feminism, so by their logic feminism would be dying.
 

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A bit of both

mainstream feminism? Nah, these white girls be on some extra sh!t that most black people aren’t fµck!ng with. I personally find the sh!t they focus on to be stupid

but I do see more black women having internal conversations about the things that affect them.

so we are, just in a black women centered way
 

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More, for sure. If you actually talk to any gen z teen girls right now, you know they often talk about feminism related things on social media in their own way. People disregard it under general "cancel culture" but it's not that.

For one thing, that generation has the best idea of consent I've ever seen. They'll call a 20 year old college guy a predator for dating a 16 year old girl in high school. That did not happen when I was a teen in 2010s. "Pick me" is the worst thing you can be called as a girl right now, outside of the typical stuff. Which is a genius counter to the way they were starting to shame girls for being "prudes" and not buying into xes positivity at their own expense.

And that's not to say these girls are invulnerable. But they are generally very interested in feminist
ideas. The only expection would be girls from the Bible belt and similar communities.
 
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I feel like we as black women should focus more on black feminism as the issues will more than likely pertain to us. Regular feminism does not necessarily include us and whatever benefit they may gain, we certainly may not. It would also be easier imo because we'd be the ones making the decisions on things rather than somebody else doing it as they love to do for people.

Edit- I don't think it's entirely dead I just think more black women are actually more open to speaking up on their own terms rather than allowing ourselves to be grouped in with them (feminism) seeing as though as we're overlooked.
 

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I feel like many black women and girls don't want to identify as feminist, but are. The backlash against trans women and "xes work" is a good example. The anti muling movement, while not necessarily "feminist" has elements of feminism.
 

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I feel like we as black women should focus more on black feminism as the issues will more than likely pertain to us. Regular feminism does not necessarily include us and whatever benefit they may gain, we certainly may not. It would also be easier imo because we'd be the ones making the decisions on things rather than somebody else doing it as they love to do for people.

Edit- I don't think it's entirely dead I just think more black women are actually more open to speaking up on their own terms rather than allowing ourselves to be grouped in with them (feminism) seeing as though as we're overlooked.

This right here. I would love a womanist movement for black women.

I think intersectional feminism came from a good place, but its been coopted and repurposed so much that I don't see it really helping black women.
 

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A lot of feminist concepts are now normalized among the female youth so they don‘t feel the need to put a label on themselves. Some decades ago wearing pants, doing competitive sports or pursuing higher education was a feminist thing to do. Today even conservative women do it. There might be less women calling themselves feminist but they’re more feminist than ever.
 

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I think it is dying. I’m actually worried about women’s rights in the future. The trans stuff and surrogacy mixed with even greater competition for resources due to global warming makes me really worried about what men will do to women.
 

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This right here. I would love a womanist movement for black women.

I think intersectional feminism came from a good place, but its been coopted and repurposed so much that I don't see it really helping black women.
True. These days I see intersectionality being used to explain why men in dresses should be allowed to be women. It’s so sad.
 

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More, for sure. If you actually talk to any gen z teen girls right now, you know they often talk about feminism related things on social media in their own way. People disregard it under general "cancel culture" but it's not that.

For one thing, that generation has the best idea of consent I've ever seen. They'll call a 20 year old college guy a predator for dating a 16 year old girl in high school. That did not happen when I was a teen in 2010s. "Pick me" is the worst thing you can be called as a girl right now, outside of the typical stuff. Which is a genius counter to the way they were starting to shame girls for being "prudes" and not buying into xes positivity at their own expense.

And that's not to say these girls are invulnerable. But they are generally very interested in feminist
ideas. The only expection would be girls from the Bible belt and similar communities.


Good Points. It's interesting how people try to act like this generation of feminism is only flaws upon flaws
 

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I feel like alot of young Black women start off being feminist and then end up being womenist. Feminism doesn't include Black women majority of the time so that's why Black women created womenist. I can totally see the womenist movement being co-opted when alot of Black women start speaking about it and actually participating in it.
 
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Feminism, being "woke", activism etc. seems to be a trend on social media but I don't know anyone in real life that cares about mentioned topics that much.
 

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I think more black women are embracing womanism, which applies a lot of same principles as feminism while acknowledging the fact that the latter hasn't benefitted non-white women historically.
 

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I think men help with that. By seeing their ways on social media and what they actually support is making women out their self interest first and that’s good. Women are accepting males for what they are and are choosing to act accordingly.
 
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I feel bad for the impressionable young women growing up with the “xes-positive” (actually lack of xesual discernment), biology-denying, makeup-is-empowering-and-so-is-the-male-gaze version of current liberal feminism. The new generation will be fine if they dig a little deeper. A lot of them identify as feminists without really considering what’s best for them, in part because “womanhood” is such a nebulous term these days.
 

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Hopefully less since more material is available showing that feminism is a cancer that only served white women and it just ended up really hurting them but it hurt black women and families the most.

The independent woman trope hurt BW the most.
 

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As a millennial who is in college with gen Z atm I agree with the fonts who feel they’re participating without labels. They’re very aware of boundaries and rights and taking up as much space as possible. They’re very community oriented from what I see and will speak up for the good of each other.
 

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More black women and girls are putting themselves first, our interests before the interests of others. Self care is in, self exploration is in, womanism, and femininity- in. Encouraging other black women, in.

Stressing over white feminist issues is out, like trying to prove that they’re just as strong and capable as white men like they’re in a pissing race.
 

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I feel bad for the impressionable young women growing up with the “xes-positive” (actually lack of xesual discernment), biology-denying, makeup-is-empowering-and-so-is-the-male-gaze version of current liberal feminism. The new generation will be fine if they dig a little deeper. A lot of them identify as feminists without really considering what’s best for them, in part because “womanhood” is such a nebulous term these days.
A lot of people especially are turning against this ideology. People are tired and fed up with it. I think it’ll be ushered out for the next wave of craziness within the next 3 years. I could be wrong.
 

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Most black women were never really interested in feminism anyway but yes I think black women who were interested in feminism but are becoming less interested. Myself included. I can't speak for other black women but some of the reasons why I distanced myself from feminism is because non-black feminists don't really care about black women's issues, but some of the black feminists are throwing us under the bus with regards to the trans movement.

One too many black feminists are prioritizing trans women of all races over black women and trying to force other black women to support them unconditionally when they've shown time and time again that they do not respect black women at all. They think we're more manly than them. Many black trans women don't even like black women. They take pleasure in sleeping with men in relationships with black women and say misogynistic things about us on a daily basis. I'm also no longer here for the xes work agenda, the promiscuity agenda, the 50/50 agenda, and the "strong independent" agenda that mainstream feminism pushes onto women; black women especially. That being said, I will always support women's rights and women's empowerment.
 
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My immediate thought is less because "feminism" is about white women. It's all girl power this and that until Black women speak up because they are being pushed aside. Then it's white tears and the focus is back on them.
 

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Mainstream “choice” feminism is dying because we can now see the horrible affects of it (xesual objectification/exploitation, young girls hopping on Only Fans as soon as they turn 18, making space in female areas for males aka the trans agenda etc.)

I see more young Gen Z leaning into radical feminism; less silly xes work, queer politics and more combating on femcide, female only community building and combating more pertinent issues women deal with.
 

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A bit of both

mainstream feminism? Nah, these white girls be on some extra sh!t that most black people aren’t fµck!ng with. I personally find the sh!t they focus on to be stupid

but I do see more black women having internal conversations about the things that affect them.

so we are, just in a black women centered way
I agree, I’m a part of generation Z and I find feminism stupid. I’m for black Women first and foremost. I’m a womanist. Feminism is just a hobby for white women. Feminism just seems like a bunch spoiled white women complaining about how white men make more money than them...
 

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Hard-Left / Marxist Feminists are a rare breed who truly seek actual equality. They are not too common, but still growing slowly.

#girlboss 'feminists' whom are embracing the system that oppresses them so that they can oppress men in turn, perpetuating the cycle...? EVERYWHERE.
 

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They are but a vast majority of them are libfems and label themselves as non-binary and all that jazz so...
 

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Hard-Left / Marxist Feminists are a rare breed who truly seek actual equality. They are not too common, but still growing slowly.

#girlboss 'feminists' whom are embracing the system that oppresses them so that they can oppress men in turn, perpetuating the cycle...? EVERYWHERE.

Ch...oppress men where? The way patriarchy is set up....

People throw around "girl boss" in a demeaning way. It's wild to me as someone in a traditionally conservative male-dominated profession, where women succeeding is incredibly rare...Female partners have brought the implementation of more inclusive policies....I can't imagine firms offering the parental leave policies they do now without them, nor the programs they have to pay for associates to freeze their eggs and so on..
Older associates have told me they were asked if they were going to get pregnant if they came to interviews with their ring on. And that's not 20 years ago, more like 5.

I don't get the inclination to demonize people for caring about women succeeding. And that's not on some white women ideology, either. The people I see doing this are mostly gen-z white "leftists," who decry identity politics but refuse to understand how structures actually operate.

Anyway, the real issue is xes-positive feminists who have lost sight of the game being run and encourage young girls to think engaging in all behaviors is empowering. I worry for girls a few years younger than me who are growing up excited to make an OF at 18.
A 17-year-old girl in a plastic surgery group I'm in was commenting saying she wanted to get breast implants when she turned 18 and would make an account on OF to raise money for it.
The normalization of xes work for young women is detrimental. as is the larger embracing of chauvinist culture.
 
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I agree, I’m a part of generation Z and I find feminism stupid. I’m for black Women first and foremost. I’m a womanist. Feminism is just a hobby for white women. Feminism just seems like a bunch spoiled white women complaining about how white men make more money than them...

that makes me sad. I'm a millennial/gen-z cusp, and identify more as a womanist as well, but I do think many feminists have made great contributions and led the rights for legal equity. I think third-wave xes positive feminists and men alike have succeeded in demonizing second wave feminists who were truly trying to achieve radical change and bring equal rights, and watered feminism down to...Taylor Swift Stan wars.

I encourage you to look into the antipornagraphy ordinances in Minnesota, and the work of Andrea Dworkin and Catharine Mackinnon, as well as the history of the Equal Rights Amendment, and the coalition of Black, white, and Chicana women who moved that forward or tried desperately to. That helped color my understanding of feminism and how crucial it was for certain gains.
 

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Yeah they are interested but its not gonna take them where they wanna go especially bc they include non bw in it and non bw do not like black women and use bw for their own agendas.
 

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There are less young radical feminist organizers today. However womanist & feminist thought is rapidly spreading to Black girls and women. @Isis Diamond

The future of radical feminism is in Black girls who are blooming into self-determined women bearing abundant fruit.

They just do. They create. Almost impulsively. It's beautiful to witness them not get paralyzed in analysis, defeat, hate or envy.

It's our role to teach them how to create community and lead effective campaigns. Organizing is not a natural skill though some people have a gift for it. I'm just excited seeing what they do even without the skills.

They have a divine sense of justice and the tidal wave they are forming will destroy more than just patriarchy.
 

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I think Black women are innate, natural feminists (womanists). We are the movement.
Many Black women worship men and campaign for a functional patriarchy. We have to acknowledge reality.

Womanism and feminism is our birthright. We created it. But everybody doesn't claim their inheritance.
 

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Radical feminists don't really consider liberal feminism, feminism, so by their logic feminism would be dying.
I respect liberal feminists identity, I just don't agree with their timeline to end patriarchy, which seems to be some day rather than today.
 

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I wouldn't say feminism, but more black women are putting themselves first and remaining woke.

If anything, these young black women reject feminism, see it for what it is, improving the lives of solely white middle/ upper class women.
 

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Support for marxist feminism/Egalitarianism is dead among young women. But Im seeing a lot of young women who are "womanist" in that they care more about supporting their own financial and personal interests even at the expense of a grander vision of deconstructing the patriarchy and achieving true gender egalitarianism. A commitment to ideology is dead with this generation.

I guess they are less Feminist and egalitarian and more self interested and self centred. I dont know if its a good thing or a bad thing. Many young women want to enjoy the fruits of the female empowerment movement whilst are questioning whether its a good thing to get rid all patriarchial and traditional expectations, since its useful when it comes to controlling men and putting men in a desirable but narrow box which benefits women in a hyper individualist capitalist world.
 
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Since the nuance in society is pretty much gone, I feel like more women either completely accept it or actively reject it. You have the bra burning feminists and then the women who want to bring back the Salem witch trials.
 

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