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Empire Season 5: Episode 16 "Never Doubt I Love"

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Well the show can end with Andre as well. I don't care about Terri old azz being pregnant who cares at this point? Kingsley is attractive in his own way but not fine or anything. Cookie should have known not to trust lucious times , of course he threatening her why is everyone becoming so stupid and trifling on this show? Man they need to wrap this damnn show up and not renew everyone has been over this since season 4 honestly .
 

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Well the show can end with Andre as well. I don't care about Terri old azz being pregnant who cares at this point? Kingsley is attractive in his own way but not fine or anything. Cookie should have known not to trust lucious times , of course he threatening her why is everyone becoming so stupid and trifling on this show? Man they need to wrap this damnn show up and not renew everyone has been over this since season 4 honestly .

Quick question: how does the show still being on affect you? You don't have to watch and none of your money goes towards paying for the show so what impact does the show have on your life?
 

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It's a message board it doesn't affect my life as I stated it can end it would make no difference the show is tired I said what I said.
 

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I’m so sick of how they play with Andre. He can literally just never be happy. Take Hakeem unstable ass instead.
 

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Who is in that casket????? We have been waiting since this season premiered. Could it Lucious mother? Is it Andre? I'm wondering if something will happen to Jamal and Andre gets his heart. Is it Tricky, Lucious lawyer? Is It someone who is extremely close to Lucious because he practically had snot running out his nose when he was sitting in front of the casket. I just can't see him crying like a baby if it was Kingsley....the suspense is killing me!!!! :(:tired_face:
 

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The wedding was quite nice. Chaka Khan singing topped it off.

I just don't like Kai and would have prefered it if he had gone back to London and been written off.

I said it before, but it seems like Trai (Andre) wants off the show. Why would the showrunners, writers, producers and directors want to get rid of one of the strongest actors on the show. A complex character who is a ladies magnet too.

What is going on with the writing for Hakeem and Tiana's characters. They have a kid together, Tiana takes on the role of Bella's mother and then they go back to their immature season 1 ways. They keep playing these silly games where they pretend they don't love each other, dating anyone to make each other jealous.

Bryshere's acting just gets worse. He just doesn't seem to care, he stays corny and just collecting them nice paychecks.

I am still waiting for this DNA test for Kingsley. Is Lucious that simple to just believe white crackhead Tracy.
I hope it comes out that Kingsley is not his son in the next few episodes.

I don't know what Damon's long game is cause if he wants Cookie, he's going to have to convince her to leave the love of her life. He's going to have to deal with Lucious who isn't shy about murdering someone, even a close friend who betrays him.

This is one of the first episodes in a long while that I did not hear Jamal's struggle singing or Hakeem's mediocre rapping.

The show is still quite entertaining to watch, the problem is the writing is lazy most of the time. I don't think Lee Daniels and his team know how to develop long term storylines and some characters like Hakeem just don't evolve.

Still it's good to have a show with majority black actors on a major network that rivals the white old and newish TV shows.
It's not easy to have a show last more than 1 season, much less 5.
 
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Is it just me or does Tiana seem to be using Devon to try to make Hakeem jealous? Her reaction when he asked to dance with Bella seemed more like irritation than relief. I wanted Devon to be with Maya anyways.

update on mom: she's now stomping around mumbling about fire and brimstone and muttering that her hilarously hyper religious friend is probably right about having no television in her house


Im caribbean yall, dont go too hard on my mama

Your avi is exactly the fact I picture you made when she realized Jamal and Kai were getting married lol
 

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This whole season Jahmal has been looking... tired. I believe Jussie deals with depression in real life. He handsome, but in these latest episodes he just looks exhausted to me.

Anyway, just wanted to say that. Carry on.
 

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Why can't Dre know about the pregnancy? I mean, new lease on life, blah, blah...what am I missing?

Teri should tell Andre about the pregnancy...at least this would lift his spirits up and give him a reason to live. Unless there are questions about paternity which therefore explains why she's keeping it a secret...we will see...
 

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Is that Nicole singing "at last"

The name of the singer performing "At Last" is Joss Stone. She played Wynter, the female artist from London that was signed to Jamal's record label during his time there.
 
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Who is in that casket????? We have been waiting since this season premiered. Could it Lucious mother? Is it Andre? I'm wondering if something will happen to Jamal and Andre gets his heart. Is it Tricky, Lucious lawyer? Is It someone who is extremely close to Lucious because he practically had snot running out his nose when he was sitting in front of the casket. I just can't see him crying like a baby if it was Kingsley....the suspense is killing me!!!! :(:tired_face:

They are definitely pulling a "Who Shot J.R." on us...
 

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The lawyer in the casket

It can't be the lawyer, remember there's a scene at the beginning of season 5 where he was asking Luscious if he wanted to ride in the hearse with the family and Luscious said no. Also Taraji told The Breakfast Club that it's not her in the coffin. I still believe that it's Luscious mother because if you look at earlier episodes of the show, you notice that same theme music always plays whenever she comes around.

I'm still not ruling out Andre or the other Lyon brothers though. Maybe it's Tiana or Treasure, maybe even Portia...who knows?
 

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Whoever it is in the casket, Lucsious is responsible for their death. Why else would he be crying hard like that at the funeral...
 

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the promo clip said a "Lyon" would be "six feet under". so how can it be the lawyer or even Lucious mom? Trai deleted his IG sometime ago as well.
 

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the promo clip said a "Lyon" would be "six feet under". so how can it be the lawyer or even Lucious mom? Trai deleted his IG sometime ago as well.
Didn’t hear that in the promo clip. Hmmm, maybe it is Trai, but I hope not. I can do without Iranian Lyon.
 

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Hakeem seems rather...disconnected this season. I blame the actor

Getting rid of Andre would be a mistake. They should only be doing this if the actor wants out. He put his whole foot into that mental breakdown storyline last season. I was in shock seeing him fighting himself and carrying on a whole life with a b!tch who didn’t exist.
 

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i dont trust Dre's girlfriend at all. All of a sudden, she's his heir? And where is HER son?
Hakeem's character is barely featured anymore, and when he and is......its wack and juvenile. And HOW did Tiana get Bella?
Sick of the back and forth with Cookie and Lucious. Either yall wanna be together or not. Its waaaaaayyyy too easy for an outsider to come between them.
I want to be over and thru with this show but some sadistic trait in me insists on seeing it thru to the end. *sigh*
 

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It's a message board it doesn't affect my life as I stated it can end it would make no difference the show is tired I said what I said.


I can't tell. Don't watch the show and don't click on the Empire thread
There! Problem solved
 

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Sooooo am I the only one who thinks zaddy Wood Harris is still sexy af?

But what's his endgame with the Lyons? It's confusing me.
 

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Why they always put Andre with these kinda BS, the only one that should go is Jahmal..duh! Like Andre said they took his wife, his kid and now you want to get rid of him, wtf!!
 

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