How Does Rap Benefit A Black Woman? And Why Continue To Support It.

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I’m curious about something like why do black women still support misogynistic male rappers despite these males past towards black women, younger black girls or their past of being sexual predators, abusive nature and/or colorism. I know those of us do exist who listen to other genres but I have to ask this.

I always sit back and will watch black women holler and fight about how black males disrespects them, mistreat them and they always mis-using this quote:

“The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman. The most neglected person in America is the Black woman.”—Malcolm X

I have seen black women always using this quote or using all these hashtags for black women to get support in certain social issues but then they’ll still be fans of these rap dudes Da Baby, Lil’Baby, Tupac (here’s an article regarding him and Delores Tucker:
Full link is here: Shakur's lyrics attacking 'gangsta rap' critic are protected as opinion - The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press


Months before he died in 1996, rapper Tupac Shakur released a record that twice criticized C. Dolores Tucker, former secretary of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and former chair of the Democratic National Committee Black Caucus. Tucker had led a crusade against “gangsta rap.”

One of the songs that referred to Tucker, “How Do U Want It,” says, “Delores Tucker, yous a muthafucka, instead of trying to help a ***** you destroy a brotha, . . . you too old to understand the way the game’s told.” In the other song, Shakur says, “Dear Ms. Delores Tucker, you keep stressin’ me, fuckin with a motherfuckin’ mind. I figured you wanted to know, you know, why we call them ho’s bitches. . . . It’s strictly business, baby, strictly business.”

Tucker responded to the songs by suing Shakur’s estate and various recording companies, distributors and retailers in federal District Court in 1997.

She argued that Shakur portrayed her as a traitor when he knew that she was not. Because Shakur’s 5 million fans considered Shakur a “god,” Tucker also argued, they would take Shakur’s lyrics to be facts, not opinion. She also argued that the lyrics invited Shakur’s fans to “eliminate” her.

Snopp Dogg, Kanye West, 80s/90s black male rappers or 2000s black male rappers and supporting these guys platforms and downwind money, streaming their musics as well. I know there’s more rappers as well who have said toxic things regarding black women in general. These males get forgiven all the time and black women give these guys all this support.

How are you going to be complaining about how nobody respects you but you can sit and listen to black male rappers or musics cursing you out, laughing at you or degrading your womanhood or something. I don’t get or understand how this can process in certain women minds or something.

I have realized black women will be supporting hip hop males who wouldn’t bat an eye towards black women issues or support a black woman period but they’ll be worshipping, crying and praising these males. Then when these males die/or be deceased all of them are crying like these hip hop males meant so much to them or like hip hop has benefited black women.

I want to know how and when did hip hop benefit black women? Also please don’t come in here “all lives mattering” this because no no. Ok I am speaking specifically on black male rappers and all that. Also, I’m not talking about black women rappers as well I’m not about to discuss them because that’s another thread for another day. How does this black male hip hop music serve you as a woman? What do you get out of hearing males rap about these things and how does this empower you or makes you feel good about yourself?

My opinion: I don’t support hip hop because it’s culture misogynistic and it’s male identified. I want to hear everybody opinion except males don’t come here in this thread you’re not allowed. Open to genuine discussions and opinions without bullshit or bias points or throwing other black women under the bus
Examples Of misogynistic BS:

"My little sister's birthday / She'll remember me / For a gift I had ten of my boys take her virginity." - Bizarre​

Bizarre is the only member of D12 that can compete with Eminem for bottom of the barrel misogyny.

"You ain't gonna let me f*ck you and I feel you / But you gone suck my d*ck, or I'll kill you." - Chief Keef​

"Bitches ain't sh*t but hoes and tricks / Lick on these nuts and suck the d*ck." - Snoop Dogg​

More on Snopp Dogg:
In May 2013 he told Rolling Stone that he had been a pimp in the early days of his music career, and that it was the realisation of a childhood dream.

"As a kid I dreamed of being a pimp, I dreamed of having cars and clothes and bitches to match. I said, 'F**k it - I'm finna do it.'" he told the magazine.

"I put an organization together," he said. "I did a Playboy tour, and I had a bus follow me with ten bitches on it. I could fire a bitch, f**k a bitch, get a new ho: It was my program. City to city, titty to titty, hotel room to hotel room, athlete to athlete, entertainer to entertainer."
There’s way more.
 
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Great question and I lost respect from Tupac when he called C Delores Tucker a motherfucker.
Then the way he cursed her out and then still try to justify it as something good to call women B’s & H’s. He was nothing to be praising either, he sighed out black women as well and used them for sex too (Tupac), “Around We Go” whatever that sh*t was call so called “classic” record he was calling women “hoez” and letting the world now he’s a player and only wanted sex from a woman. Basically saying they don’t respect women at all and only wanted sex. Black women sit and be still bump these nasty songs, cursing songs or them basically telling you. The beat fly to them so they believe it’s a vibe smh.

That’s why I never understand black women obsessions with these black male rappers because their musics was misogyny, sexual exploitation and even violent murder songs to or them stunting on broke b*tches which is black women in all reality. How you can sit calm and just sit back jamming to that stuff like that. I grew up around the faux black community so I know who these males are very well and have heard those songs as a little kid around me. The cookouts the parties all that mess. They even bump these musics around these children to even the black girl children.
 
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I don’t keep up with rappers outside of them playing on my Apple Music playlist so I don’t feel like I’m any less of a woman because of that. I listen to everything because I love everything regarding music.

#2 I get tired of being expected to be in women’s empowerment mode 24/7 by other BW’s standards. If I want to listen to a hip hop album in my headphones in the privacy of my home then respect my decision and leave me the hell alone about it. This doesn’t mean that I’m not down for the same cause as you either & it’s offensive that other BW automatically label you as being all types of horrid things because we handle things differently. Sometimes I just want to be human and enjoy worldly things/ guilty pleasures like everyone else gets to do without being made to feel guilty about it.

If you tell me “I don’t support hip hop” my response isn’t going to be “Why?!?!”... it’s going to be “okay” because that’s your decision. I don’t understand why so many BW online feel like they have the authority to make other BW answer to them and explain themselves. There’s no answer I or any other BW on this board could give that would be good enough for you regarding this question.
 
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It is mainly hood rat women who embrace it but most black women don't like rap. Another is that black women listen to through their black male relatives or signficgant other.
 
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I don’t keep up with rappers outside of them playing on my Apple Music playlist so I don’t feel like I’m any less of a woman because of that. I listen to everything because I love everything regarding music.

#2 I get tired of being expected to be in women’s empowerment mode 24/7 by other BW’s standards. If I want to listen to a hip hop album in my headphones in the privacy of my home then respect my decision and leave me the hell alone about it. This doesn’t mean that I’m not down for the same cause as you either & it’s offensive that other BW automatically label you as being all types of horrid things because we handle things differently. Sometimes I just want to be human and enjoy worldly things/ guilty pleasures like everyone else gets to do without being made to feel guilty about it.

If you tell me “I don’t support hip hop” my response isn’t going to be “Why?!?!”... it’s going to be “okay” because that’s your decision. I don’t understand why so many BW online feel like they have the authority to make other BW answer to them and explain themselves. There’s no answer I or any other BW on this board could give that would be good enough for you regarding this question.
okay well leave the thread why bother to come in here. Irrelevant response.
 
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It is mainly hood rat women who embrace it but most black women don't like rap. Another is that black women listen to through their black male relatives or signficgant other.
i just said don’t come in here calling black women names or throwing them under the bus. You’re not my type of font please exist my thread. Your comment is false because there’s black women from higher backgrounds that be supporting male rappers as well. Everytime these dudes passes away y’all up and crying as if he was your family or something. It’s not that deep at all. I am not discussing black women at all or black women rappers.
 
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You definitely have to come here. I see Tupac in your avatar or whatever. I’m not expecting you to be on woman empowerment but I asked a question. If you don’t like leave out my thread and have a nice day girl.
You asked for our opinion and then get mad when you don’t like the response.

What type of answer were you expecting? You asked a question and I gave you honesty. Did you want us to lie or did you want a circle jerk?
 
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You asked for our opinion and then get mad when you don’t like the response.

What type of answer were you expecting? You asked a question and I gave you honesty. Did you want us to lie or did you want a circle jerk?
No I wanted a honest discuss about the misogynistic culture of rap and all these black males who have passed away recently black women always supporting these men in everything they do.

You also have Tupac in your avatar as well and I specifically listed him cursing out Delores Tucker for saying she was tryna stop his ass from cursing out black women in those songs of his. Trying to justify that it’s okay to call women B’s & H’s because he wasn’t no saint at all. If you’re not gonna contribute to my OP because you don’t cherish your womanhood like some of us do then exit your ass out my thread . This is feminist alley? Right? I made it for a reason for a genuine discussion. If you wanna support and love those black males carry your ass and keep streaming their musics, like I said y’all make these black males richer and richer they will NEVER place black women as representation and they go off and adore/support non black women.

I’m saying the misogynistic culture, I asked how do women absorbed that type of music and still vibe to it while it’s saying all type of curse words. You cape for black men and I know you do. If you’re gonna all lives matter I’m not interested. You and the other font, you two should leave because y’all not the ones for this conversations. I’m not forcing nobody to be women empowerment all day long. I asked a simple question. That’s all I asked. Goodbye and don’t come back. I’m not the font you want to try at all. I asked a nice genuine question in my OP with a respectable approach to converse with real black women who knows what I’m discussing or asking. Take this BS to entertainment alley somewhere.
 
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No I wanted a honest discuss about the misogynistic culture of rap. You cape for black men and I know you do. If you’re gonna all lives matter I’m not interested. You and the other font, you two should leave because y’all not the ones for this conversations. I’m not forcing nobody to be women empowerment all day long. I asked a simple question. That’s all I asked. Goodbye and don’t come back.

You jumped up here and made a assumption about me based off nothing when I came in here and answered your question honestly like you asked. I’ll perch up and down this thread and I dare you to report me for derailment because even a blind man would see my post was on topic & answered your question. You just didn’t like it.

Get over yourself.
 
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You jumped up here and made a assumption about me based off nothing when I came in here and answered your question honestly like you asked. I’ll perch up and down this thread and I dare you to report me for derailment because even a blind man would see my post was on topic & answered your question. You just didn’t like it.

Get over yourself.
No get over yourself, goodbye and have a nice day before I report you for derailing. You are weak and conquered and I know your font. For someone who don’t like their womanhood you shouldn’t be in this forum #blockedhandmaiden4life #RIP
 
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No I wanted a honest discuss about the misogynistic culture of rap and all these black males who have passed away recently black women always supporting these men in everything they do.

You also have Tupac in your avatar as well and I specifically listed him cursing out Delores Tucker for saying she was tryna stop his ass from cursing out black women in those songs of his. Trying to justify that it’s okay to call women B’s & H’s because he wasn’t no saint at all. If you’re not gonna contribute to my OP because you don’t cherish your womanhood like some of do then exit your ass out my thread . This is feminist alley? Right? I made it for a reason for a genuine discussion. If you wanna support and love those male carry your ass and keep streaming their musics.

I’m saying the misogynistic culture, I asked how do women absorbed that type of music and still vibe to it while it’s saying all type of curse words. You cape for black men and I know you do. If you’re gonna all lives matter I’m not interested. You and the other font, you two should leave because y’all not the ones for this conversations. I’m not forcing nobody to be women empowerment all day long. I asked a simple question. That’s all I asked. Goodbye and don’t come back. I’m not the font you want to try at all. I asked a nice genuine question in my OP with a respectable approach to converse with real black women who knows what I’m discussing or asking. Take this BS to entertainment alley somewhere.

Everything Ms Tucker said was true
 
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RAP doesn’t benefit black women. I’m glad I stop listening, hearing men call women bitches, goes, and that’s is fucking tiring. I don’t get the hype about Tupac and Biggie. They’re both hella disrespectful as hell to black women. Honestly I don’t feel sad when rappers die. Why should I grieve for someone who calls me all type of derogative names?
 
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RAP doesn’t benefit black women. I’m glad I stop listening, hearing men call women bitches, goes, and that’s is fucking tiring. I don’t get the hype about Tupac and Biggie. They’re both hella disrespectful as hell to block women. Honestly I don’t feel sad when rappers die. Why should I grieve for someone who calls me all type of derogative names?
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RAP doesn’t benefit black women. I’m glad I stop listening, hearing men call women bitches, goes, and that’s is fucking tiring. I don’t get the hype about Tupac and Biggie. They’re both hella disrespectful as hell to black women. Honestly I don’t feel sad when rappers die. Why should I grieve for someone who calls me all type of derogative names?
Yasss all of this. Yes those two was misogynistic as hell and didn’t care about women like that. Yes I don’t feel bad when neither of them pass away either they were misogynistic, colorist or anti-black woman some where in their careers.
 
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Yasss all of this. Yes those two was misogynistic as hell and didn’t care about women like that. Yes I don’t feel bad when neither of them pass away either they were misogynistic, colorist or anti-black woman some where in their careers.

OP have you thought about creating a private group for like minded black women? We could discuss similar topics with other bw on here. He was a good rapper and had good flow, but he died by the image he promoted. A little off topic, I never understood the hype in his looks. I mean he was good looking, but nothing special. I thought DMX in his 20s was better looking anyway.
 
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There are some good rap artists out there but (not to sound like a hipster) they aren't mainstream. Shabazz Palaces are really good! Sometimes I can listen to mainstream rap music but not for too long because it does kind of mess with me. I didn't believe in low vibration music before but now I do. It can be too much to constantly hear the same message over and over again.
 
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OP have you thought about creating a private group for like minded black women? We could discuss similar topics with other bw on here. He was a good rapper and had good flow, but he died by the image he promoted. A little off topic, I never understood the hype in his looks. I mean he was good looking, but nothing special. I thought DMX in his 20s was better looking anyway.
I thought about it but it would only be for woke black women because LSA is still black male identified and I don’t trust these fonts here. A lot of them are huge fans of these dudes while still complaining. So no I won’t make any. I never liked neither of these 2 and never understood how any of them could be called attractive.
I’ll add woke fonts and I’ll let them talk about anything they want and post good threads to without people saying some white or this or that. It would be a variety of topics. I’ll definitely add @coco2thepuff99 because she drops gems and woke. Those the fonts I’ll add her, the other ladies to Ren80 all them. It also would be limited.
 
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I thought about it but it would only be for woke black women because LSA is still black male identified and I don’t trust these fonts here. A lot of them are huge fans of these dudes while still complaining. So no I won’t make any. I never liked neither of these 2 and never understood how any of them could be called attractive.
I’ll add woke fonts and I’ll let them talk about anything they want and post good threads to without people saying some white or this or that. It would be a variety of topics. I’ll definitely add @coco2thepuff99 because she drops gems and woke. Those the fonts I’ll add her, the other ladies to Ren80 all them. It also would be limited.

Ok cool. I will admit I was a fan of DMX, but I don’t mind threads like your yours because I can see past celebrity status and see them as humans. I’ve been reading fonts post like yours and coco and listening to commentaries on YouTube and they make sense. Also the Ma’kiyah thread opened my eyes about how the excuses for excessive force came out for her but if she were a black boy there would be outrage.
 
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Ok cool. I will admit I was a fan of DMX, but I don’t mind threads like your yours because I can see past celebrity status and see them as humans. I’ve been reading fonts post like yours and coco and listening to commentaries on YouTube and they make sense. Also the Ma’kiyah thread opened my eyes about how the excuses for excessive force came out for her but if she were a black boy there would be outrage.
Keep going and reading, keep your mind open and it will all make sense. Yes black people are obsessed with these black male celebrities and can’t see through the bs especially black women. That dude shock G where all them gushing over him. I saw where outside of LSA black women already said he was into white blonde girls and wasn’t stunting black women. Black women always mourning these black males when they die girl something wrong with them. Yep we be telling people they throw black women or girls under the bus like that young girl. I got on timeout because of that thread, I was heated. You notice it’s gone, I bet there will never be any updates regarding that thread on here like they did GF thread the other day praising god he found “justice”. She’s going to be forgotten ASAP. The fonts in there were disgusting & distasteful. A lot them was saying they would’ve shot her too girl, it was disgusting. A lot of misogyny was in that thread to and bias people.
 
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I don’t get it either, especially the way this board erupted in emotion when DMX/Black Rob died. I didn’t think either one deserved all of that emotion based on their lyrics alone but I guess LSA did.
 

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