I think MJ cheated

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I don’t know.. I think he was very close to someone later in his life. And yes they had child together. I believe this because there is a letter from an insider circulating on the internet. And I believe that letter to be true since it contains details that hardly any fan could know at the time. However, nothing is stated about a ‘fourth child’, but a third child instead (which should be Blanket/Bigi).In the letter, the insider basically states that MJ met this woman after he was done with LMP and Debbie Rowe. And that, yes they had a child together. But of course he cheated on her as well. So they broke up eventually..

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Does anyone really believe that MJ would have a child and not have the child live with him? Or at least acknowledge them? Hell, he was lying and telling people Omer was his kid then later confessed that he was not.

In that letter I think he simply meant he wanted to get this woman he was in love with pregnant. He wanted her to give him his fourth child.

The woman is denying him love and he is saying in my heart you are my wife. in my heart you are the mother of my next child. that’s it.
 
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This is the letter I was referring to. Some of yall are in denial and it's okay. I'm not here to convert anyone just simply stating facts. Ms. Rowe - Jackson is on record wethet you want to get with it or not. She is not some random side bitch like most of yall claim he was rah rah for. She was a part of his lufe for a long time and there is no denying that. There are several stories, documents and not to mention songs that seals this. I don't GAF about your feelings of her or your nasty little comments. I said what the fuck I had to say and I'm sticking to it.

Don't walk away
See I just can't find the right thing to say
I tried but all my pain gets in the way
Tell me what I have to do so you'll stay
Should I get down on my knees and pray
And how can I stop losing you
How can I begin to say
When there's nothing left to do but walk away
I close my eyes
Just to try and see you smile one more time
But it's been so long now all I do is cry
Can't we find some love to take this away
Cause the pain gets stronger every day
How can I begin again
How am I to understand
When there's nothing left to do but walk away
See now why
All my dreams been broken
I don't know where we're going
Everything we said and all we done now
Don't let go, I don't want to walk away
Now why
All my dreams are broken
Don't know where we're going
Everything begins to set us free
Can't you see, I don't want to walk away?
If you go, I won't forget you girl
Can't you see that you will always be?
Even though I had to let you go
There' nothing left to do
Don't walk away
If you go, I won't forget you girl
Can't you see that you will always be?
Even though I had to let you go
There' nothing left to do
Don't walk away
If you go, I won't forget you girl
Can't you see that you will always be?
Even though I had to let you go
There' nothing left to do
Don't walk away

Songwriters: Richard Stites / Michael Jackson / Reed Vertelney / Teddy Riley
Don't Walk Away lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group, BMG Rights Management

Whatever Happens

He gives a nervous smile, tries to understand her side
To show that he cares
She can't stay in the room
She's consumed with everything that's been going on
She says
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Everything will be alright, he assures her
But she doesn't hear a word that he says
Preoccupied, she's afraid
Afraid that what they're doing is not right
He doesn't know what to say, so he prays
Whatever, whatever, whatever
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand (don't let go of my hand)
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand (don't let go of my hand)
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
He's working day and night, thinks he'll make her happy
Forgetting all the dreams that he had
He doesn't realize it's not the end of the world
It doesn't have to be that bad
He tries to explain, "you're what makes me happy"
Whatever, whatever, whatever
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand (don't let go of my hand)
See, whatever happens, don't let go of my hand (don't let go of my hand)
See, whatever happens, don't let go of my hand (don't let go of my hand)
See, whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
(See don't you do it baby) don't let go of my hand
I say yeah, don't let go baby (don't let go of my hand)
See, now baby, yeah
See you (don't let go of my hand)
Don't you do it
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Don't let you go of my hand baby
Don't you, don't you let go
I say yeah
Can I get a witness baby?
Don't you let go baby, yeah
Oh, whatever happens, just don't let go of my hand
Thank you, man
Thank you, Carlos

Songwriters: Edward Theodore Riley / Gilbert Cang / Geoffery Williams / Michael Kurt Jackson / Jasmine Quay
Whatever Happens lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group, BMG Rights Management

Heaven Can Wait

Tell the angels no, I don't want to leave my baby alone
I don't want nobody else to hold you
That's the chance I'll take
Baby I'll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It's a chance I'll take, maybe I'll stay
Heaven can wait
You're beautiful, you're wonderful
Incredible, I love you so
You're beautiful
Each moment spent with you is simply wonderful
This love I have for you girl it's incredible
And I don't know what I'd do, if I can't be with you
The world could not go on so every night I pray
If the Lord should come for me before I wake
I wouldn't want to go if I can't see your face, can't hold you close
What good would Heaven be
If the angels came for me? I'd tell them no
Tell the angels no, I don't want to leave my baby alone
I don't want nobody else to hold you
That's a chance I'll take
Baby I'll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It's a chance I'll take, maybe I'll stay
Heaven can wait
Unthinkable
Me sitting up in the clouds and you are all alone
The time might come around when you'd be moving on
I'd turn it all around and try to get back down to my baby girl
Can't stand to see nobody kissing, touching her
Couldn't take nobody loving you the way we were
What good would Heaven be?
If the angels come for me I'd tell them no
No, I don't want to leave my baby alone
I don't want nobody else to hold you
That's a chance I'll take
Baby I'll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It's a chance I'll take, maybe I'll stay
Heaven can wait
Oh no, can't be without my baby
Won't go, without her I'd go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
Oh no, can't be without my baby
Won't go, without her I'd go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
no, I don't want to leave my baby alone
I don't want nobody else to hold you
That's a chance I'll take
Baby I'll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It's a chance I'll take, maybe I'll stay
Heaven can wait (no)
Just leave us alone
(You're beautiful, you're wonderful, incredible, I love you so)
Leave us alone
Please leave us alone (you're beautiful)
Please leave us alone
Oh, leave me alone
Please leave me alone
I said leave me alone

Songwriters: Michael Jackson / Eritza Laues / Andreao Heard / Teron Beal / Nate Smith / Teddy Riley / K. Quiller
Heaven Can Wait lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group, Jellybean Music Group

Can't Let Her Get Away

I thought she had to have it
Since the first time she came
Who knows the situation
Mysteries do remain
And now I wonder why
I breakdown when I cry
Is it something I said
Or is it just a lie
(is it just a lie)
I try so hard to love you
Some things take
Time and shame
I think the whole world
Of you
Your thoughts of me remain
I'll play the fool for you
I'll change the rules for you
Just say it and I'll do
Just make this thing come true
(make a dream come true)
If I let her get away
Though I'm begging
On my knees
I'll be crying everyday
Knowing the girl
That got away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I tried to mastermind it
By saying let it be
But every time I did it
The hurt came back at me
I told you that I need you
A thousand times and why
I played the fool for you
And still you said goodbye
(still you said goodbye)
If I let her get away
Then the world will
Have to see
A fool who lives alone
And the fool who
Set you free
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I've got the feelin'
Can't let go
Can't let go
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away
I can't let
I can't let her get away

Songwriters: Michael Jackson / Teddy Riley
Can't Let Her Get Away lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group, BMG Rights Management

Notice a common theme . . . Mr. Riley has some SEROIUS explaining to do. I know he denied knowing about DR but your name is all over these lyrics with my dude who ALWAYS pur his heart and soul into his music. He always said if he didn't mean it he wouldn't sing it. Somebody needs to ask why now all of a sudden Mr. Riley is telling everyone Remember the Time is about Salli Richardson. Some chick he used to date back in the day.
 
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How can Debbie be the mother of his fourth child when he had his 3rd child with someone else and Debbie couldn't have kids. Stop stanning for Debbie all she was a rent a womb her fuckery over money when they spilt shows Debbie isn't shit.
 
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How can Debbie be the mother of his fourth child when he had his 3rd child with someone else and Debbie couldn't have kids. Stop stanning for Debbie all she was a rent a womb her fuckery over money when they spilt shows Debbie isn't shit.
Yeah that was messed up. They were friends for years and even she finally showed her ass. That's why that man took so long to get married. People think money won't change them until they see millions dancing in their face
 
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First of all PHUCK YU. I am nobodies stan of anything not even MJ himself. Stans can't and WON'T except truth nor reason. Sound familiar. 2 if you're dumb ass could read it clearly states that the child was alreadt lost which means she could not have anymore because she and the baby almost died. Did ya happen come across the part whete he literally says you escaped through heaven's gates.
DAMN!!!


And you showing yours too. I know reading and comprehension on this board is sub below par but got damnit yall can't be that simple enough to not know the difference between someone being a surrogate and someone being a spouse. Surrogates don't get to marry their clients and travel all over the world on different tours. And they sure as hell don't receive houses or cars without exoecting something in return. I don't know which reality yall living in but in this one whete everyone is sane if the mother of Bigi really was a surrogate like Ms. Rowe . . . where's her ring? Where's her houses and cars? How come we never heard about them traveling together? Let yall simple asses in on something; bet you didn't know she was supposed to go with him and the kids to Dubai and Ireland. Had the house set up and everything. Brian Oxman said so himself. Now if she was so shady and money hungry then why would my dude go out of his way to get a house and pay for her to fly out thete to meet them. Yall think they were having a custody battle?

Or was it paperwork to move them including Ms. Rowe out of the country so they could be together in peace.

Like I said I ain't hete to convert nobody and in case you didn't catch that I said I'M NOT HERE TO CONVERT ANYBODY. Kick rocks.✌
Hold on lil mama, watch yo damn tone with me. We agree on alot of shit. Calm yo ass down. I believe, like you, there was more to their relationship. But ole girl called him a sociopath. So yeah, when there's money involed, she showed her ass too. She could've been one of his OG loves, which made it even more fucked up when she came out the side of her neck on him. Miss me with your outrage and read all my posts. Lumping me in with other people's opinion will get you cussed out every single time. Get some ice cubes for that hot head.
 
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No denying Debbie Rowe was close to MJ. She gave him that super VIP access to Dr. Klein and his drugs. She assisted Dr. Klein during MJ’s office procedures. She accompanied MJ to other doctor’s appointments to hold his hand or whatever- but she also administered his drugs in his residence and on the road. She was more like a private med tech and masseuse.

She basically spents years bending over backward to provide premier care to MJ. In the midst of that, they became friends. This benefitted her and it benefitted him. If she wasn’t shooting him in the ass with Demerol, ya think he would have been spending nearly as much time talking to that biker butch ****?!?! Hell no!!

She developed a crush on him and this helped him get her to do what he wanted her to do. She offered her womb because she thought that would tie him to her forever, but it backfired. He cut her off cold and the only way she could communicate with him was through lawyers. So she sued him like - how many times?! Just to get his attention.

Watch the last 30 seconds...Look at his face when the reporter asked him what he thinks about seeing Debbie Rowe in court


That ain’t the face of someone in love. He looks like he is trying to keep from laughing. He’s so damn happy because that little nursey he had wrapped around his finger was unable to betray him. As soon as she saw his face in court, she flipped her story.

Why do you want to pretend it was some grand love affair?! It wasn’t.
 
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So as I was doing my laundry and thinking about his birthday and everything that's been going on for the past couple of weeks I thought about those letters and I started to realize as I was contemplating on who that fourth child was and if it had anything to do with MJ and DR's first child or if Bigi was actually really the fouryh child or what not and it suddenly dawned on me that perhaps, just maybe MJ cheated and produced another child with another woman.

There's apart where he says I saw you and still see you as my soulmate, wife and mother of my fourth chikd. I'm thinking he's trying to convince her that he didn't mean for it to happen it just did and that maybe he wanted her to I don't know somehow accept his mistake and kind of take the child for ad their own. Yeah I know the shit sounds crazy but consider the possibilities; it's also possible that the other eoman could have been a surrogate carrying their fourth child. But then again I'm thinking not because if that was the case then why woyld they have gotten divorced in the first place.

Maybe the reason why they fell apart is of the infidelity and even though he pleaded that he'd been true to her and honorwd their vows like somehow it was still just game and that he really didn't want to admit that he'd fucked up and hence why he wrote those letters in the first place. To keep her from leaving him.

If yall recall he did go back and forth with that crockumentary when asked about the paternity of his babies. First he said he and the mother had a relationship and in the next he stated she was a surtogate. Now from that I gathered along with the letter is that MJ did indeed have a relationship but it didn't work out and so he instead cheated during the end of his marriage and knocked up some random bitch and for whatever reason she got canceled, either refused to take care of the child or couldn't and so MJ decided he and his wife would raise the child as their own but then Debbie wasn't trying to hear it and decided to bounce anyway.

So many possibilities. What yall think?

I am intrigued by this, could the 4th child MJ was referring to be Brandon Howard? Cause I got to say there is something about him and his relationship with the Jacksons that make me wonder if he is really MJ’s first child.

I can also understand why MJ wouldn’t have ever mentioned him publicly mmmh interesting.

thanks for the letter as I never heard of these before
 
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Omgggggggggg @lasttoknow is you back, sis?

Was this directed at me? Lol I am guessing you are confusing me with some font you know?

Anyways my point was that these letters could actually be referring to a fourth child that MJ already had.

There are many unanswered questions regarding Brandon Howard and the response from him mum regarding whether MJ is Brandon’s father only add to the real possibility that he actually is.
 
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I don’t know.. I think he was very close to someone later in his life. And yes they had child together. I believe this because there is a letter from an insider circulating on the internet. And I believe that letter to be true since it contains details that hardly any fan could know at the time. However, nothing is stated about a ‘fourth child’, but a third child instead (which should be Blanket/Bigi).In the letter, the insider basically states that MJ met this woman after he was done with LMP and Debbie Rowe. And that, yes they had a child together. But of course he cheated on her as well. So they broke up eventually..

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I really like Prince and I know he meant the world to Mike, and seem like a nice well adjusted young man, and I know Paris brought him some joy but he should have never taken uo that ludicrous womb offer. He messed up.
 
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I really like Prince and I know he meant the world to Mike, and seem like a nice well adjusted young man, and I know Paris brought him some joy but he should have never taken uo that ludicrous womb offer. He messed up.

I honestly don’t think he felt like he had any other choice. His marriage to Lisa was it for him and when that blew up, I believe he just decided Debbie was his only choice to be a parent and took it.
 
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There was a thread on this in the regular MJ forum. This letter was written sometime after the molestation trial. I wish I can remember the thread, but the anonymous woman said that she had never been to Neverland and that Michael said that he wouldn't go back. So this was a woman he must have met in the middle east or Europe after he left the states. Michael already had Prince, Paris and Blanket, so he was referring to having a child after them.
 
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There was a thread on this in the regular MJ forum. This letter was written sometime after the molestation trial. I wish I can remember the thread, but the anonymous woman said that she had never been to Neverland and that Michael said that he wouldn't go back. So this was a woman he must have met in the middle east or Europe after he left the states. Michael already had Prince, Paris and Blanket, so he was referring to having a child after them.
Interesting and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he fell in love with someone he was intending to have kids with. This mysterious woman needs to come out already lol
 
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Debbie had a miscarriage didn't she? That would make Blanket the 4th child...
Yes she did but if it has been proven that the letter was written after Bigi was born then the 4th child never happened as it wasn’t Bigi
 
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Maybe the letter is about Diana Ross. That’s the only woman he was pining over for practically his entire life. The letter reads like it’s about Diana. “Why did you take away your love” etc etc. kinda sounds like some of the songs he wrote about her like Remember the time. I always got the impression that the way he said fourth child was that the kid already existed which wouldn’t make sense if he were talking about Lisa, and especially not Debbie. Wasn’t there rumors that Michael believed Diana’s son Evan was his? I’m definitely not saying Evan is his, there are similarities, but he looks more biracial. But maybe Michael believed at the time he wrote the letter that Evan was his son... making him the 4th child. But idk I think by now we’d know if Michael had another child out there, especially after the whole will debacle
 

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