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Even the Iquana is blacker than Hasley.

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I’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
 

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I've never done one of those tests nor will I ever. I just don't feel comfortable not knowing exactly where my DNA is being stored and what specific purposes it will be used for beyond genetic testing.
 

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They ask you of you want your data to be used to further scientific research or not

I believe that is just a formality. It's not like medical entities have not unethically experimented with and used our DNA and cells for research purposes in the past without our permission. Think Medical Apartheid and Henrietta Lacks.
 

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This is such BS he is a liar. The 23 and me test takes a ridiculous amount of saliva it is not a swab test. He would have to squeeze his iguana till its head popped off to get enough saliva to fill their tube. If you give them less than a table spoon its invalid.
 

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i thought they keep it in their database

no they don't there is an option to keep it in the database i think for a certain amount of years or you can not choose that..

i really dont get why people are scared of 23andme though like the gov't easily can get your dna if they want it not to mention they listen to your conversations 24/7
 

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This is fake af. Humans and Iguanas don't even share the same pair of chromosomes to begin with.
 
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I’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
They hold onto it in case the cops need it for an investigation. (Just kidding. I have no clue, but they do give out information to forensic genealogists.)
 

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I've never done one of those tests nor will I ever. I just don't feel comfortable not knowing exactly where my DNA is being stored and what specific purposes it will be used for beyond genetic testing.
I agree. And they always make me think of the book Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro. Like, am I going to run into my clone one day because I got my DNA tested?

Sounds silly, but I really wouldn’t put it past anyone.
 

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I believe this is fake and was done to go viral lol, since when did 23&me send results in the mail?

I've taken the tests and they were accurate, I asked for them to discard my dna but if they didn't I really don't care lol. I'm not gonna live life worrying about what they will do with my dna.
 

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I agree. And they always make me think of the book Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro. Like, am I going to run into my clone one day because I got my DNA tested?

Sounds silly, but I really wouldn’t put it past anyone.

I've never read that book, but it is right up my alley. Let me go order it right quick. I agree with everything that you said here. I've always wondered if it is actually constitutional for them to be using these same DNA samples to solve yearslong cold cases. It just seems unethical, and I wonder if people are actually paying attention to what they are consenting to.
 

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no they don't there is an option to keep it in the database i think for a certain amount of years or you can not choose that..

i really dont get why people are scared of 23andme though like the gov't easily can get your dna if they want it not to mention they listen to your conversations 24/7
Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as well
 

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Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as well

Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.
 

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I believe that is just a formality. It's not like medical entities have not unethically experimented with and used our DNA and cells for research purposes in the past without our permission. Think Medical Apartheid and Henrietta Lacks.

OKAY.?!
...we already know
 

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My belief is that the government is creating a data base of genetics. I think these companies are fronts and Americans are unknowingly PAYING to have their DNA catalogued by the U.S. Gvernment. I also believe the Government is looking for unique genetics to create therapies without having to pay the person they belong to. If the U.S. Government commanded Americans to turn over their DNA there would be an uproar. This way, Americans happily PAY THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THEIR DNA and exploit it for the Government's personal gain.
 

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This is fake af. Humans and Iguanas don't even share the same pair of chromosomes to begin with.

Neither do papayas but the President of Tanzania swabbed one with a fake profile and papayas test came back positive for the c*v*d.

idk why you skeptical @Buckeye Rose .
He had a goat tested too and billy came back positive.
 
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Can you imagine going to the mall...chillin, and then BOOM, you see your clone, also chillin, headed down the escalator drinking a big slurpee.

lmao

LMAO!!! Chile! You are so right! They've been creating clones for decades now! The thought of giving them ammo to try me like that makes me cringe. Ain't it scary?! The fact that people think that this is some conspiracy theory is even scarier. We, Black people specifically, are still being experimented on and we refuse to acknowledge it. This is actually a thing!
 

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My belief is that the government is creating a data base of genetics. I think these companies are fronts and Americans are unknowingly PAYING to have their DNA catalogued by the U.S. Gvernment. I also believe the Government is looking for unique genetics to create therapies without having to pay the person they belong to. If the U.S. Government commanded Americans to turn over their DNA there would be an uproar. This way, Americans happily PAY THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THEIR DNA and exploit it for the Government's personal gain.

I agree.

And i saw a study on FB that said 23&Me discovered that Black American women do in fact have a gene that makes them age slower.

I was like...cute, but I doubt these Black women wanted them to use their dna like this...
 

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This is fake. 23andMe doesn't even use cotton swabs nor provide any to collect your DNA. Notice he didn't show himself actually mailing that in. Y'all will believe anything these TikTok people say when 99% of the videos on TikTok are people looking for attention and to become the next viral sensation, even stealing other people's ideas, stories, clips, and audio (like other people's storytimes) for their own content. It's almost rewarded to do that on TikTok.
 

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I've never read that book, but it is right up my alley. Let me go order it right quick. I agree with everything that you said here. I've always wondered if it is actually constitutional for them to be using these same DNA samples to solve yearslong cold cases. It just seems unethical, and I wonder if people are actually paying attention to what they are consenting to.
I agree with you, too. If the consent forms are anything like the terms and conditions with most things, I highly doubt people are fully reading them. And since forensic genealogy is so new, what are the laws governing it? I’ve wondered the same things as you. I’m glad they caught the Golden State Killer, but what does that mean for the average Joe’s rights?

The book is set in a futuristic dystopia, but it’s an easy read and very though-provoking. It was made it into a move a while back, but of course the movie is not nearly as good as the book. I hope you like it!
 

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Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I’ve often wondered if this ancestry stuff isn’t a way to gain legal access to people’s DNA. After finding out about atrocities the American government has perpetrated like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Henrietta Lacks, and the history of eugenics in America nothing surprises me anymore.
 

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lmaoo those tests' really are BS tho.

I did an Ancestry.com test and it sent me two completely different results. different percentages, regions, etc. random sh!t; Norway, Spain, Holland. I'm blk American, like where the fµck did you get Holland from?
 
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lmaoo those tests' really are BS tho.

I did an Ancestry.com test and it sent me two completely different results. difference percentages, regions, etc. random sh!t; Norway, Spain, Holland. I'm blk American, like where the fµck did you get Holland from?

My unambiguous, 2 Black American parent coworker got Scandinavian.

Its interesting.
 

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They hold onto it in case the cops need it for an investigation. (Just kidding. I have no clue, but they do give out information to forensic genealogists.)

Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.

Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as well

They need a court order, but it's the government. Do we really have any privacy from the government? They are the ones who give you your whole IDs and social security numbers, etc. If anybody got all the records about you, it's them.

Anyways, they haven't been using any of the sites except Gedmatch which isn't a DNA testing company, isn't affiliated with any, and is a free and public tool anyone can use.

Also the DNA they use is DNA the criminals left behind at crime scenes. There's a reason why most of the criminals being caught this way are rapists. Cause they left their semen behind on their victims. The authorities doing no more than anybody else when they make accounts using that DNA- finding cousins and DNA matches and using family trees and those clues to identify someone.

Even they say it's not easy and won't work for everyone cause so many people don't even know nor keep track of who their 2nd great-grandparents are nor their 1st cousins twice removed anymore. They have to hire whole genealogists to make family trees for this. But as the lady from the 1980s saw first hand, who was told she was lying about being white, the government can trace your ancestry pretty far back themselves just using records and a paper trail if they put the time and money into it. Having spent over $5000 dollars and gone to lengths to prove to this woman that she was at least 2/64 black from an enslaved woman in the 1800s or something just so they didn't have to mark her race as white.

 
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I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I’ve often wondered if this ancestry stuff isn’t a way to gain legal access to people’s DNA. After finding out about atrocities the American government has perpetrated like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Henrietta Lacks, and the history of eugenics in America nothing surprises me anymore.

Same. I don't label myself as a conspiracy theorist because some of the theories are just outlandish. However, I can admit that some of it is completely understandable and believable once we step outside the matrix. I agree that nothing surprises me at this point. As I age I have grown to accept how untrustworthy the powers that be are. We aren't as 'free' as we think in the U.S. We are living in an open air prison. I wasn't taught about the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment in school; I learned it in adulthood. Had someone told me about the Henrietta Lacks HeLa Experiment prior to founded evidence I would have labeled it a conspiracy theory. It wasn't until I matured that I realized that we've been living a complete dishonest existence in this country. The thought of it actually scares me.
 

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Same. I don't label myself as a conspiracy theorist because some of the theories are just outlandish. However, I can admit that some of it is completely understandable and believable once we step outside the matrix. I agree that nothing surprises me at this point. As I age I have grown to accept how untrustworthy the powers that be are. We aren't as 'free' as we think in the U.S. We are living in an open air prison. I wasn't taught about the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment in school; I learned it in adulthood. Had someone told me about the Henrietta Lacks HeLa Experiment prior to founded evidence I would have labeled it a conspiracy theory. It wasn't until I matured that I realized that we've been living a complete dishonest existence in this country. The thought of it actually scares me.
I so hear you. And they want us to be scared. It’s awful.
 

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They need a court order, but it's the government. Do we really have any privacy from the government? They are the ones who give you your whole IDs and social security numbers, etc. If anybody got all the records about you, it's them.

Anyways, they haven't been using any of the sites except Gedmatch which isn't a DNA testing company, isn't affiliated with any, and is a free and public tool anyone can use.

Also the DNA they use is DNA the criminals left behind at crime scenes. There's a reason why most of the criminals being caught this way are rapists. Cause they left their semen behind on their victims. The authorities doing no more than anybody else when they make accounts using that DNA- finding cousins and DNA matches and using family trees and those clues to identify someone.

Even they say it's not easy and won't work for everyone cause so many people don't even know nor keep track of who their 2nd great-grandparents are nor their 1st cousins twice removed anymore. They have to hire whole genealogists to make family trees for this. But as the lady from the 1980s saw first hand, who was told she was lying about being white, the government can trace your ancestry pretty far back themselves just using records and a paper trail if they put the time and money into it. Having spent over $5000 dollars and gone to lengths to prove to this woman that she was at least 2/64 black from an enslaved woman in the 1800s or something just so they didn't have to mark her race as white.

I understand they need a court order, and I also understand that they’re using DNA left at crime scenes. Believe it or not, I’m actually very happy for the many Jane and John Does that have been identified recently. But they’re comparing the criminal’s DNA to DNA that was not given to them for the purpose of solving crimes. I just see it as a slippery slope without a clearly defined set of laws.

But I’m no legal scholar. My way of staying out of this is choosing not to have my DNA tested. I don’t begrudge others that right. I just don‘t know if everyone who has their DNA tested is fully aware of all of the ramifications of their choice. But the onus is on them.
 

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when I did the ancestry.com test I had to spit saliva in a tube up to a certain line. There is no swab. I've never done 23 and me but I imagine it would be similar. 23 and Me should sue this guy.
 

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I understand they need a court order, and I also understand that they’re using DNA left at crime scenes. Believe it or not, I’m actually very happy for the many Jane and John Does that have been identified recently. But they’re comparing the criminal’s DNA to DNA that was not given to them for the purpose of solving crimes. I just see it as a slippery slope without a clearly defined set of laws.

But I’m no legal scholar. My way of staying out of this is choosing not to have my DNA tested. I don’t begrudge others that right. I just don‘t know if everyone who has their DNA tested is fully aware of all of the ramifications of their choice. But the onus is on them.

But the way they're doing it is the same way people find DNA matches. When you take a DNA test, you can opt in for the option to show up as a DNA match for others or not. When it comes to GedMatch, the main site they've been using, you have to take your raw DNA data from whatever site you tested with, download it, and upload it to Gedmatch. The main purpose of Gedmatch is to find DNA matches. So anybody on there wanted to be able to find DNA matches and to be found as a DNA match. They've done nothing more than uploaded the criminal's genomes onto the site as you would your own if you wanted to use Gedmatch. Then looked through their matches. They basically are using these tools to do genealogy work just as anyone else. But instead of just trying to find ancestors, they're trying to find the identity of the DNA they have. I'm just saying, it's all very voluntary and most people on Gedmatch wanted to find DNA matches and help DNA matches with their genealogy work to begin with.
 
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no they don't there is an option to keep it in the database i think for a certain amount of years or you can not choose that..

i really dont get why people are scared of 23andme though like the gov't easily can get your dna if they want it not to mention they listen to your conversations 24/7

Just think Facebook with your DNA.

And no the government is not collecting DNA like that unless you have something very interesting in you.

Corporations though can actually find a way to exploit your DNA any way possible to make a profit.
 

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