i thought they keep it in their databaseI’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
I’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
i thought they keep it in their database
They ask you of you want your data to be used to further scientific research or notI’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
They ask you of you want your data to be used to further scientific research or not
i thought they keep it in their database
They hold onto it in case the cops need it for an investigation. (Just kidding. I have no clue, but they do give out information to forensic genealogists.)I’ve always been skeptical about those tests. Have they ever said what they do with your DNA after they test it?
I agree. And they always make me think of the book Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro. Like, am I going to run into my clone one day because I got my DNA tested?I've never done one of those tests nor will I ever. I just don't feel comfortable not knowing exactly where my DNA is being stored and what specific purposes it will be used for beyond genetic testing.
I agree. And they always make me think of the book Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro. Like, am I going to run into my clone one day because I got my DNA tested?
Sounds silly, but I really wouldn’t put it past anyone.
Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as wellno they don't there is an option to keep it in the database i think for a certain amount of years or you can not choose that..
i really dont get why people are scared of 23andme though like the gov't easily can get your dna if they want it not to mention they listen to your conversations 24/7
Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as well
I believe that is just a formality. It's not like medical entities have not unethically experimented with and used our DNA and cells for research purposes in the past without our permission. Think Medical Apartheid and Henrietta Lacks.
Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.
This is fake af. Humans and Iguanas don't even share the same pair of chromosomes to begin with.
Can you imagine going to the mall...chillin, and then BOOM, you see your clone, also chillin, headed down the escalator drinking a big slurpee.
lmao
My belief is that the government is creating a data base of genetics. I think these companies are fronts and Americans are unknowingly PAYING to have their DNA catalogued by the U.S. Gvernment. I also believe the Government is looking for unique genetics to create therapies without having to pay the person they belong to. If the U.S. Government commanded Americans to turn over their DNA there would be an uproar. This way, Americans happily PAY THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THEIR DNA and exploit it for the Government's personal gain.
I agree with you, too. If the consent forms are anything like the terms and conditions with most things, I highly doubt people are fully reading them. And since forensic genealogy is so new, what are the laws governing it? I’ve wondered the same things as you. I’m glad they caught the Golden State Killer, but what does that mean for the average Joe’s rights?I've never read that book, but it is right up my alley. Let me go order it right quick. I agree with everything that you said here. I've always wondered if it is actually constitutional for them to be using these same DNA samples to solve yearslong cold cases. It just seems unethical, and I wonder if people are actually paying attention to what they are consenting to.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I’ve often wondered if this ancestry stuff isn’t a way to gain legal access to people’s DNA. After finding out about atrocities the American government has perpetrated like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Henrietta Lacks, and the history of eugenics in America nothing surprises me anymore.Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.
lmaoo those tests' really are BS tho.
I did an Ancestry.com test and it sent me two completely different results. difference percentages, regions, etc. random sh!t; Norway, Spain, Holland. I'm blk American, like where the fµck did you get Holland from?
They hold onto it in case the cops need it for an investigation. (Just kidding. I have no clue, but they do give out information to forensic genealogists.)
Exactly. That's why I don't understand why anyone would encourage others to give their DNA up willingly.
Also, governments can force these DNA companies to give them access to the database to screen for criminals as well
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I’ve often wondered if this ancestry stuff isn’t a way to gain legal access to people’s DNA. After finding out about atrocities the American government has perpetrated like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, Henrietta Lacks, and the history of eugenics in America nothing surprises me anymore.
I so hear you. And they want us to be scared. It’s awful.Same. I don't label myself as a conspiracy theorist because some of the theories are just outlandish. However, I can admit that some of it is completely understandable and believable once we step outside the matrix. I agree that nothing surprises me at this point. As I age I have grown to accept how untrustworthy the powers that be are. We aren't as 'free' as we think in the U.S. We are living in an open air prison. I wasn't taught about the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment in school; I learned it in adulthood. Had someone told me about the Henrietta Lacks HeLa Experiment prior to founded evidence I would have labeled it a conspiracy theory. It wasn't until I matured that I realized that we've been living a complete dishonest existence in this country. The thought of it actually scares me.
I understand they need a court order, and I also understand that they’re using DNA left at crime scenes. Believe it or not, I’m actually very happy for the many Jane and John Does that have been identified recently. But they’re comparing the criminal’s DNA to DNA that was not given to them for the purpose of solving crimes. I just see it as a slippery slope without a clearly defined set of laws.They need a court order, but it's the government. Do we really have any privacy from the government? They are the ones who give you your whole IDs and social security numbers, etc. If anybody got all the records about you, it's them.
Anyways, they haven't been using any of the sites except Gedmatch which isn't a DNA testing company, isn't affiliated with any, and is a free and public tool anyone can use.
Also the DNA they use is DNA the criminals left behind at crime scenes. There's a reason why most of the criminals being caught this way are rapists. Cause they left their semen behind on their victims. The authorities doing no more than anybody else when they make accounts using that DNA- finding cousins and DNA matches and using family trees and those clues to identify someone.
Even they say it's not easy and won't work for everyone cause so many people don't even know nor keep track of who their 2nd great-grandparents are nor their 1st cousins twice removed anymore. They have to hire whole genealogists to make family trees for this. But as the lady from the 1980s saw first hand, who was told she was lying about being white, the government can trace your ancestry pretty far back themselves just using records and a paper trail if they put the time and money into it. Having spent over $5000 dollars and gone to lengths to prove to this woman that she was at least 2/64 black from an enslaved woman in the 1800s or something just so they didn't have to mark her race as white.
The State of Louisiana told a White Woman that she was Black. So She Took Them to Court!
The State of Louisiana said she was black. She says she's white. Her relatives said they grew up Colored. So I was looking for an incident like this about a woman trying to prove that she was white. The one I was looking for happened in the 1800s I believe, but I stumbled onto this one...www.lipstickalley.com
I understand they need a court order, and I also understand that they’re using DNA left at crime scenes. Believe it or not, I’m actually very happy for the many Jane and John Does that have been identified recently. But they’re comparing the criminal’s DNA to DNA that was not given to them for the purpose of solving crimes. I just see it as a slippery slope without a clearly defined set of laws.
But I’m no legal scholar. My way of staying out of this is choosing not to have my DNA tested. I don’t begrudge others that right. I just don‘t know if everyone who has their DNA tested is fully aware of all of the ramifications of their choice. But the onus is on them.
no they don't there is an option to keep it in the database i think for a certain amount of years or you can not choose that..
i really dont get why people are scared of 23andme though like the gov't easily can get your dna if they want it not to mention they listen to your conversations 24/7