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Jay-Z talked about Nas getting F'ed over in Takeover, but he was the one who got F'ed by Nas

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On “Takeover,” Jay Z talks about, “And you ain’t get a coin, *****, you was getting fµcked then/I know who I paid, God – Serchlite Publishing.”

Come to find out the man behind Serchlite Publishing, MC Search, said on Drink Champs that when Jay wan't Nas' sample for "Dead Presidents", he has to put Nas' name on JAY'S publishing.

That makes Jay's above diss inaccurate.

He tried to "Son" Nas, but Nas is still "sonning" Jay to the bank.
 

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Yall still talking about this decades later and both have moved on to multi million dollar deals.

The point he was making though was Nas didnt own the music at the time.
 

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The funny thing is that Nas could've easily said something back, and this guy look like he didn't say anything until way after the check cleared and the record was out, lol. What his wife say "best revenge is your paper". That little gotcha laugh when he mentioned taking 25% of the publishing made me chuckle.
 

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Nas is just as smart or smarter than Jay, but Jay still throws shade every now and then while Nas doesn't even think about him
 

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Ooooo....kay

Seems like its only Nas fans who are still stuck in the past & trying to prove a point 20 years later about all of this. It makes you wonder why.
 

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I'm glad both Jay and Nas put their differences to the side many yrs back. Both are legends. The back and forth was cool way back then, and that's exactly where it should remain.

Even when they weren't all that tight, I remember Nas would choose not to rap to Ether whenever certain venues would put it on to see him do it live. A great sign of respect.
 

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Yall still talking about this decades later and both have moved on to multi million dollar deals.

The point he was making though was Nas didnt own the music at the time.

Not the music, the publishing rights.

Nas didn't own his recording (It was probably Columbia), but he owns the publishing. Jay-Z licensed the words by having to give Nas 25% of the publishing on that song. But the other credited songwriters on The World Is Yours (for samples) are on Dead Presidents as songwriters too.

Original sample.
 

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I hate when white men get involved in our culture.

But anyway.

It's not a "son" if he agreed to the terms upfront.

There was no "gotcha".
 

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Not the music, the publishing rights.

Nas didn't own his recording (It was probably Columbia), but he owns the publishing. Jay-Z licensed the words by having to give Nas 25% of the publishing on that song. But the other credited songwriters on The World Is Yours (for samples) are on Dead Presidents as songwriters too.

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Which Jayz agreed to.

I still dont get how this negates anything that Jayz said or makes it a son if it was agreed to up front.
 

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Ooooo....kay

Seems like its only Nas fans who are still stuck in the past & trying to prove a point 20 years later about all of this. It makes you wonder why.

Cause we're discussing history and hip-hop.....

This isn't Stan sh!t. JAY vs Nas was one of the best things to ever happen in hip-hop, this has nothing to do with Bey so stop being so bothered in threads about Nas.
 

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I hate when white men get involved in our culture.

But anyway.

It's not a "son" if he agreed to the terms upfront.

There was no "gotcha".

You know how the music industry works right? White men own the record labels. They control what music you hear. Jay, Dame, Diddy, Suge, Master P all have/had white men signing the checks. They are inherently "involved in our culture".
 

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You know how the music industry works right? White men own the record labels. They control what music you hear. Jay, Dame, Diddy, Suge, Master P all have/had white men signing the checks. They are inherently "involved in our culture".

Ok?

I still hate it.
 

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You know how the music industry works right? White men own the record labels. They control what music you hear. Jay, Dame, Diddy, Suge, Master P all have/had white men signing the checks. They are inherently "involved in our culture".
Involved...more like in control.
 

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