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Jesse Jackson calls the UK “the mother of racism”.

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He’s not wrong but yt brits will get mad and swear up and down there’s no such thing as racism here when they can never experience such a thing. I’m tired of this country and it’s people but even back home I can’t escape from the grip of the UK because colonisation got my country too. It is ahistorical and false to say that the UK and other western nations were not the purveyors of white supremacy, colonialism and everything else it brought.
 

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UK yt people invented gaslighting. They invented that sh!t, and practice it at an early age.

It's been exposed as a very racist country based on the UK media and the public that consumes it without thinking twice.
 

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That whole era of European history is filled with racist imperialists. Britain, France, Spain, Germany, The Dutch. They all got into that white man burden bµllsh!t.
 

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And the Arab countries as well, as slavery started with Arab countries first

Slavery in the Arab countries was nothing like the Atlantic Slave trade.

The reality is that without the inherent racial notions of inferiority that were true in Europe slavery functioned differently in Middle East. An easy way to discuss slavery historically is that all slavery is wrong, but all slavery is not the same. Slaves in the Islamic trade served a different function, had a slightly better legal position compared to European slaves, and had a very real chance to successfully transition into society post-slavery. Without the racial system that forced blacks to be subservient to whites, a former slave in the Middle East had better social outcomes. There was still prejudice against Africans, particularly in some parts of the broader Islamic world, but there were always black Muslims and that made a large difference. Slavery is always a function of the socio-legal system of any given society, and Africans simply weren’t dehumanized in the same way in the Middle East.
 

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The Portuguese were the main ones. The saying goes that the Portuguese were the first to start the slave trade and the last to end it. Brazil didn't abolish slavery until 1888 and were still importing Yoruba slaves to Brazil as late as the 1830's.
Partially true, while they were first Europeans in the African slave trade, they bought their slaves from the Arabs originally, and in the Arab world slavery was last "officially" abolished in Mauritania in 1981
 

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Slavery in the Arab countries was nothing like the Atlantic Slave trade.

The reality is that without the inherent racial notions of inferiority that were true in Europe slavery functioned differently in Middle East. An easy way to discuss slavery historically is that all slavery is wrong, but all slavery is not the same. Slaves in the Islamic trade served a different function, had a slightly better legal position compared to European slaves, and had a very real chance to successfully transition into society post-slavery. Without the racial system that forced blacks to be subservient to whites, a former slave in the Middle East had better social outcomes. There was still prejudice against Africans, particularly in some parts of the broader Islamic world, but there were always black Muslims and that made a large difference. Slavery is always a function of the socio-legal system of any given society, and Africans simply weren’t dehumanized in the same way in the Middle East.
Knew the Arab slavery sugarcoating and justifing would come into this convo.
 

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Wow, those women were willingly marrying men who were colonizing their country. smh
I get 'self first' 'secure the bag' but dang.
Oh that wasn't the case. They fell in love, got married and had kids.

We even have the black and white photos.

The Spanish and Portuguese were a tad different than yt Brits in the sense that many of them actually did marry the local women and acknowledge mixed children as theirs.

Also, Portuguese colonialism was very male orientated so most of them did not take their wives and kids from Portugal to the colonies.

I am by no means romanticising anything because they raped black women at a high rate too just like other colonisers/slave owners and had underage black girls as concubines.

I am merely just stating that the Spanish and Portuguese were looked down on by western Europeans because a lot of the colonialists did not make their romantic/xesual unions with black women a secret. They were out in the open with it and did not really care.
 

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He isn’t lying. Water is wet.

But watch the deluded yt brits deny that this is true just like they downplay how evil their empire was, and just last week the British government released a commission report which stated systemic racism doesn’t exist here.

I am tired.

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They are are original colonizers. So he speaks nothing but truths.
 

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Yep. UK, France, Portugal, Belgium, Spain, Germany, Holland.

Heck even Sweden partook in the trans Atlantic trade.

Call them ALL out.

I am tired of white Europeans acting morally better than white Americans when:

1) white Americans are originally from Europe
2) Europe is the birthplace of white supremacy, racism etc
3) Black people experience systemic racism, micro-aggressions, discrimination with law enforcement and overt and covert racism here too!
Agreed but Europeans often like to deflect by focusing on 'racist Americans'. Worry about racism in your home country..
 

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