I'm here for this! Idk why, but I love reading about this family. There's a good book filled with JFK Jr. tea called The Day John Died by Christopher Anderson if anyone's interested. According to many of their friends, John and Carolyn were separated at the time of the plane crash. He wanted children and she wasn't ready. Carolyn originally didn't want to go with John to his cousin Rory's wedding, but did so at Rory's request I think. Her sister Lauren came along for moral support because she didn't want to travel alone with John. We all know how that ended now :...
There are several pretty comprehensive threads on the Kennedy family on LSA. But I love talking about them, so I'm still down, lol.
I can believe that.John John seemed way more attatched and looked like he was ready for some kids or something. That makes me mad because he could have done better in more way than one. And it was obvious that he loved her alot, from what I saw
carolyn used to verbally lash out on JFK jr. ....idk why the hell they got married...
fµck JFK with his racist ass.
I read and heard different things over the years about JFK and I don't recall anyone every labeling him racist. Your comment has me curious. Do you have some information on him being like that? What did he do? Please share if you don't mind.
I read and heard different things over the years about JFK and I don't recall anyone every labeling him racist. Your comment has me curious. Do you have some information on him being like that? What did he do? Please share if you don't mind.
I'll just re-post this here.
People don't give JFK enough credit for this but he was also the first Western leader that spoke of Africa as a force to be reckoned with and not as a disparate jungle backwater.
This was a big deal in 60s West Africa
No British PM ever did such a thing
JFK donated portions of his salary to the United Negro College Fund (without fanfare, the information only came out many years after his death)
And every black person that worked with/for JFK from Abraham Bolden (Secret Service) to George Thomas wrote about how kind, considerate and generous he was.
Moreso as a powerful white man to 'coloured folk'
LBJ gets justifiabe credit for Civil Rights, but Kennedy put his presidency on the line by forwarding it to Congress in June 1963 and many Democrats were pissed about it which is why they needed Dallas.
(Democrats were bigger racists that Republicans back then and I understand there are still some sealed files on what Dixiecrats thought of Kennedy because of that bill!!!)
P.S LBJ was known for making racial slurs about blacks all his life and I wonder if the bill would have passed without Kennedy's assassination.
Some people here call even President Obama racist or a sell out so I won't take it seriously
I'll just speak on his dealings with MLK, Jr. He and his brother Bobby classified MLK Jr as a militant because of his work in civil rights, until Malcolm X came along. They were not going to help black people with civil rights issues until it became politically feasible, meaning, when the beating of MLK and those who participated in the March on Selma was televised. Many white people who had either been apathetic or didn't think it was that brutal were calling on JFK to do something. Furthermore, during his tenure, there was a black congressman in Washington (I forgot his name, I'm sorry) who was married. Every congressman's wife was invited to the white house for dinner with the First Lady Jackie, and Jackie had 4 different dinners before inviting her because some of the ladies refused to eat or share a table with a black woman.
My latest point of reference is The Black History of the White House written by Dr. Clarence Lusane. Very in depth look at the history of who occupied the white house. Other references came from studying years ago in college. I don't have a romanticized view of JFK, even though I grew up with my great grandmother having his picture hanging in her house. There are also references of him using the N word. And I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion of him just because I see him in a certain way.
I finally saw that Kennedy mini-series (with Greg Kinnear and Katie Holmes) on Reelz channel. If the movie is indeed going off of truth, Joe Kennedy Sr was something else!!! Buying off voters for Jack in his senate and presidential runs, he even tried to pay Jackie to stay with John when she wanted to leave him after she got wind of his affairs,etc,. Not to mention him cheating early on with actress Gloria Swanson and ultimately swindling her out of her money. Joe was something dirty. In his case, the sins of the father really did befall the children (and so on and so on)
I'm curious to know more about JFK's sister Rosemary...we don't hear much about her...her father had her lobotomized when she was like 23 because she was "******** and had violent mood swings" which a lot of experts have disputed and its been said that when JFK became president and the feds started asking questions Joe admitted that wasn't the case...the procedure nearly turned her into a damn new vegetable & she had to live in an institution for the rest of her life...He never told his wife he was having the procedure done to their daughter in fact he did it while she was out of town and refused to tell her for a long time where Rosemary was...some people speculated that Joe had the operation done to cover up something else...who knows? They basically all pretended she was dead until Joe died...this family is so fµcked up...here is picture of her...i think she was best looking of the sisters but that ain't saying much cuz the kennedys were all HIT
I'm curious to know more about JFK's sister Rosemary...we don't hear much about her...her father had her lobotomized when she was like 23 because she was "******** and had violent mood swings" which a lot of experts have disputed and its been said that when JFK became president and the feds started asking questions Joe admitted that wasn't the case...the procedure nearly turned her into a damn new vegetable & she had to live in an institution for the rest of her life...He never told his wife he was having the procedure done to their daughter in fact he did it while she was out of town and refused to tell her for a long time where Rosemary was...some people speculated that Joe had the operation done to cover up something else...who knows? They basically all pretended she was dead until Joe died...this family is so fµcked up...here is picture of her...i think she was best looking of the sisters but that ain't saying much cuz the kennedys were all HIT
JFK was a party animal and a druggie from a connected family that was groomed for the presidency. He was the democratic version of George Bush Jr..
I can believe that.John John seemed way more attatched and looked like he was ready for some kids or something. That makes me mad because he could have done better in more way than one. And it was obvious that he loved her alot, from what I saw. And there are alot of talk about her cheating on him.
Since she turned him down the first time he tried asking her out, how genuine in the relationship she was def deserves to be questioned. Makes it believable she did cheat on him and didn't want to be with him anymore.
There too much about her story that doesn't add up...first off for someone with they claim was ******** they let her have a lot of freedom...they let her go on trips to Ireland by herself when she was 19 and when Eunice went on a tour of Europe Rosemary was her chaperone...why would you let your mentally challenged daughter be chaperone for her younger sister on a trip a cross Europe? I mean people have speculated that she may have had everything from a learning disability to severe depression...its been ruled out that she was ******** because of the level math she able to do among other things...her mother kept very detailed diaries and her secretary noted that she never made any mention of Rosemary being mentally handicapped or having severe mood swings...so what gives??? I could definitely see her being depressed tho...she kept diaries and and they have letters of her pleading with her father about how she could make him happy with her...he was emotionally abusive to her (and his whole family) but strangely enough she was only one in the family that stayed with him England towards the end of his ambassadorship...i know one of their cousins said that Rosemary would sneak out at night from school and run through the park and her parents were scared she was going to meet men...god forbid she might exhibit the same behavior her brothers did *eye roll* her story is sad but very intriguing as well..I read up on that. that was terrible how they pretended like she didn't exist. Had her go through that procedure and worsened her condition even more and they put her in that home and thats where she was her entire life, she died there in 06 I believe. Been there since before JFK died(or a little while afterwards). That was def messed up.
Timothy Shriver just wrote a book and he talks about Rosemary in it. And yes Rosemary shat all over her sisters in the looks department.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ust-handful-words-including-no-diet-food.html
Wow, Rosemary was very pretty. I always wondered if Rosemary was lobotomized for some other sinister reason. From the things I've read about her, she was bit of a rebel. Something I think Joe could not stand because it didn't jive with this "image" of his family that he was trying to put out there.Timothy Shriver just wrote a book and he talks about Rosemary in it. And yes Rosemary shat all over her sisters in the looks department.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822638/JFK-s-nephew-Timothy-Shriver-opens-Kennedys-kept-Rosemary-s-lobotomy-secret-say-just-handful-words-including-no-diet-food.html
Wow, Rosemary was very pretty. I always wondered if Rosemary was lobotomized for some other sinister reason. From the things I've read about her, she was bit of a rebel. Something I think Joe could not stand because it didn't jive with this "image" of his family that he was trying to put out there.
One thing the Kennedy movie didn't cover was Kathleen Kennedy(JFK's sister) death. She also died in a plane crash, just four years after Joe Jr, the eldest Kennedy son. I've read that Rose Kennedy had pretty much disowned her before her death and didn't even go to her funeral.
JFK was a party animal and a druggie from a connected family that was groomed for the presidency. He was the democratic version of George Bush Jr..
I think there are libraries with tea on this family.