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I think we should ask Madonna if she had a sleepover at Neverland? You kow she will say yes or no. As she said to James Corbin..she gets around.
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I use to think or feel in the lines of that as well but since towards the end of last year with her little tribute to him hint plug then thanks to mockumentary and she hasn't said sh*t it is kind of getting me the vibe her MJ admiration has faded.

I'll give her credit during the first allegations, she was around at his show in Mexico in the audience, likely concerned for him. He had tears running down his eyes and etc. during that particular show.

She defended him and likely sensed what was going to happen to him that help led the second allegations case.

After he passed, she helped plug on her '09 VMA speech in honor of MJ what her ex-husband Sean Penn narrated over a documentary of people who are falsely accussed of molestation. Which that documentary was called: The Witch Hunt.

Since his death every year she has given tribute posts, and traditionally made sure people wouldn't forget he was her "best date ever" at the iconic '91 Oscars.

She had introduced her adopted children to MJ's legacy and praised him for a while.

But guess what she did for this year's Oscars? No she and MJ photos of plug, just when she performed that night.

Her buddy Rosie O' already said she believes "the victims", and Madonna's had plugged her film Desperately Seeking Susan that she did with Roseanna Arquette who also said she believes "the victims".

I remember a recent post but I think she immediately has taken it down where she tweeted "Have No Fear", not sure if it was her way to suddenly believe "the victims" on Wade & Jimmy.

And her album I believe is about to come out and she's posting a big red X, not sure what that means but I'm getting a sense her once MJ tribute plug as part of this new album ain't happening!

She likely watched this mockumentary and officially believes "the victims". This is what I'm expecting, unfortunately!
 
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I don't think Madonna personally believes he is guilty but will go along with the crowd because of the stupid MeToo cult.
On Madonna don't believe he's guilty, I hope you're right!

She may have her many faults but one thing she has done over the years (not sure right now), was supported him over allegations against him.

As far as the Me Too cult, on her Twitter & Instagram she seemed to be more towards the campaign for women who are sexually assaulted but she showed a photo of women overseas and she did mention about racism as well. It seems she's hinting around about injustice towards women and racism.

But still, considering what is currently going on to MJ's legacy "I believe the victims" Blue Check campaign. It would had been nice to know once her new album comes out her original plan of her tribute project/song (whatever it was) was still going to happened.

I honestly don't see that happening now! This actually would be a perfect time to continue on with this tribute she originally had in mind for him. Since she always preaches:
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If all these years she still believes in his innocence and she really doesn't care what people think or say about her, then this would be a perfect time to support his legacy and still demonstrate that regardless of what others may say or think of her, she still supports and believes in his innocence, would be a great thing to do!

But hey she is a white woman, so....
 
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This is what I like to see from her if she only practices what she preaches or at least the "image" she portrays herself to be!
 
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Maybe she’ll come out and defend him eventually :emoji_shrug: Some people just have defended him recently, so maybe she’s just gonna be late, idk. I hope she will still stand by him. And I would hate it, if she is yet another person who ‘knew’ MJ, but believes ‘the victims’
 
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She posted this a week before LN came out.


I've always found their relationship poignant. She clearly loves MJ a lot, and he's probably her true love since she's been posting so much about him. But their relationship didn't work out in the end. I also suspect a lot of her sad pop ballads are about Michael.
 
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She posted this a week before LN came out.


I've always found their relationship poignant. She clearly loves MJ a lot, and he's probably her true love since she's been posting so much about him. But their relationship didn't work out in the end. I also suspect a lot of her sad pop ballads are about Michael.
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How on Earth did I miss this! I've been trying to search and see if she's posted anything in the lines of this near/around LN!

Thanks for sharing this!

Then, possibly there's hope!

But yes, at this point, I'm convinced regardless what really went on between them (which yes, no secret how/why it didn't work out) he is the real love of her life.

And I as well have often felt that her sad pop ballads are about him. I could go on & on about which songs, what key lyrics, etc.

What got me the most, here while she was married to Sean Penn she dedicated her True Blue album to him, yet MJ's brother Jackie Jackson sings on that album. I can go on so many other things as well.

There are actually many years of Madonna's ongoing need to continue to be connected to MJ. That proves to me it wasn't just out of a "career move".

That was why I was not surprised over her "So Did I" speech because that was her way of continuing her connection to him. You would have thought she was the grieving widow of Michael Jackson or something!

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What got me the most, here while she was married to Sean Penn she dedicated her True Blue album to him, yet MJ's brother Jackie Jackson sings on that album. I can go on so many other things as well.

Wow, I've never heard that before. Can you give me a source?
 
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Wow, I've never heard that before. Can you give me a source?
This was shared years ago on LSA, when the original MJ stans had about everything there was to know on MJ and there were some who seemed to be fans (or at least) very interested in two of them.

But let me see what I can do:


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Madonna ‎– True Blue
Label:
Sire ‎– 25442-1
Format:
Vinyl, LP, Album, Limited Edition, Blue
Country:
Australia
Released:
1986
Genre:
Rock, Pop
Style:
Pop Rock


Papa Don't Preach

Acoustic Guitar – John PutnamArranged By [Strings] – Billy Meyers*Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrums – Stephen BrayElectric Guitar – Bruce Gaitsch, John PutnamKeyboards – Stephen BrayKeyboards [Additional] – Fred ZarrLyrics By [Additional] – MadonnaPercussion – Jonathan MoffettProducer – Madonna, Stephen BrayRhythm Guitar – David Williams (4)



Open Your Heart

Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – MadonnaDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – David Williams (4)Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Gardner Cole, Madonna, Peter Ralfelson*

White Heat
Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – David Williams (4), Jackie Jackson, Jonathan Moffett, Kiethan Carter*, Richard MarxDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – Bruce Gaitsch, Paul Jackson Jr.Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Producer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*


Love Makes The World Go Round

Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayGuitar – Paul Jackson Jr.Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*

Notes
Includes poster.

On white lyric insert with blue/ grey writing the following is noted;

"White Heat": Dedicated to Jimmy Cagney.

This album was recorded at Channel Recording and mixed at Master Control.

Originally mastered at Future Disc.

Paulinho da Costa appears courtesy of Pablo Records.
Siedah Garrett appears courtesy of Qwest Records.
Jackie Jackson appears courtesy of Epic Records.
Paul Jackson Jr. appears courtesy of Mankind Productions.
Yamaha equipment appears courtesy of Doug Buttleman.

This album is dedicated to my husband, the coolest guy in the universe.

℗ + © 1986 Sire Records Company for the U.S. and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the U.S.

Madonna - True Blue

*NOTE: There were other songs on this album but in just about all of them both Jonathan 'Sugarfoot' Moffett and Siedah Garrett are all through this album!

***More info:

True Blue was the first album where Madonna included Spanish themes as evident in the song "La Isla Bonita".[15] The song was written for Michael Jackson's Bad album, but he had turned it down.

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**And by the way, Sean & Madonna had MJ's home phone number. They called over to his house because the songwriter of that song that MJ rejected was there, still working with MJ. They wanted to let the songwriter know since MJ didn't want that song, Madonna surely wanted it. There's like a laundry list of back-up singers, musicians, songwriters, producers, directors, choreographers, dancers, agents, managers, mutual celeb friends, designers, and etc. that Madonna made sure she shared, that MJ had!


The album was inspired by and dedicated to actor Sean Penn, Madonna's husband at the time.

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True Blue (Madonna album) - Wikipedia
 
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This was shared years ago on LSA, when the original MJ stans had about everything there was to know on MJ and there were some who seemed to be fans (or at least) very interested in two of them.

But let me see what I can do:


More Images


Madonna ‎– True Blue
Label:
Sire ‎– 25442-1
Format:
Vinyl, LP, Album, Limited Edition, Blue
Country:
Australia
Released:
1986
Genre:
Rock, Pop
Style:
Pop Rock


Papa Don't Preach

Acoustic Guitar – John PutnamArranged By [Strings] – Billy Meyers*Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrums – Stephen BrayElectric Guitar – Bruce Gaitsch, John PutnamKeyboards – Stephen BrayKeyboards [Additional] – Fred ZarrLyrics By [Additional] – MadonnaPercussion – Jonathan MoffettProducer – Madonna, Stephen BrayRhythm Guitar – David Williams (4)



Open Your Heart

Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – MadonnaDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – David Williams (4)Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Gardner Cole, Madonna, Peter Ralfelson*

White Heat
Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – David Williams (4), Jackie Jackson, Jonathan Moffett, Kiethan Carter*, Richard MarxDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – Bruce Gaitsch, Paul Jackson Jr.Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Producer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*


Love Makes The World Go Round

Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayGuitar – Paul Jackson Jr.Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*

Notes
Includes poster.

On white lyric insert with blue/ grey writing the following is noted;

"White Heat": Dedicated to Jimmy Cagney.

This album was recorded at Channel Recording and mixed at Master Control.

Originally mastered at Future Disc.

Paulinho da Costa appears courtesy of Pablo Records.
Siedah Garrett appears courtesy of Qwest Records.
Jackie Jackson appears courtesy of Epic Records.
Paul Jackson Jr. appears courtesy of Mankind Productions.
Yamaha equipment appears courtesy of Doug Buttleman.

This album is dedicated to my husband, the coolest guy in the universe.

℗ + © 1986 Sire Records Company for the U.S. and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the U.S.

Madonna - True Blue

*NOTE: There were other songs on this album but in just about all of them both Jonathan 'Sugarfoot' Moffett and Siedah Garrett are all through this album!

***More info:

True Blue was the first album where Madonna included Spanish themes as evident in the song "La Isla Bonita".[15] The song was written for Michael Jackson's Bad album, but he had turned it down.

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**And by the way, Sean & Madonna had MJ's home phone number. They called over to his house because the songwriter of that song that MJ rejected was there, still working with MJ. They wanted to let the songwriter know since MJ didn't want that song, Madonna surely wanted it. There's like a laundry list of back-up singers, musicians, songwriters, producers, directors, choreographers, dancers, agents, managers, mutual celeb friends, designers, and etc. that Madonna made sure she shared, that MJ had!


The album was inspired by and dedicated to actor Sean Penn, Madonna's husband at the time.

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True Blue (Madonna album) - Wikipedia
Sorry, I thought you meant that the album was dedicated to Michael, not to her husband at the time. Thanks for all the information though.
 
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Sorry, I thought you meant that the album was dedicated to Michael, not to her husband at the time. Thanks for all the information though.
That's okay, I didn't mean to disappoint you if I did. No, if that had happened, that would have been shocked/scandal to everybody back then considering Sean was her husband at the time. I just thought it was interesting that True Blue was "dedicated" to Sean but MJ's brother sings on it and she got various people who were working with MJ on this "dedicated" album of Sean's.

I find that a bit strange myself.

Well, that is why I like to know what plans she originally had for her new upcoming album. Because she originally threw hints she was going to include MJ on it. That is why I kept mentioning that. She's currently been plugging her new album, I'm assuming it is not an MJ dedicated album, possibly she "was" going to have a song in honor of him.
 
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How on Earth did I miss this! I've been trying to search and see if she's posted anything in the lines of this near/around LN!

Thanks for sharing this!

Then, possibly there's hope!

But yes, at this point, I'm convinced regardless what really went on between them (which yes, no secret how/why it didn't work out) he is the real love of her life.

And I as well have often felt that her sad pop ballads are about him. I could go on & on about which songs, what key lyrics, etc.

What got me the most, here while she was married to Sean Penn she dedicated her True Blue album to him, yet MJ's brother Jackie Jackson sings on that album. I can go on so many other things as well.

There are actually many years of Madonna's ongoing need to continue to be connected to MJ. That proves to me it wasn't just out of a "career move".

That was why I was not surprised over her "So Did I" speech because that was her way of continuing her connection to him. You would have thought she was the grieving widow of Michael Jackson or something!

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I definitely think MJ actually enjoyed the short time that they dated

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I definitely think MJ actually enjoyed the short time that they dated

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Hey, I'm not saying I disagree with you but I'm trying my hardest to reserve what I really want to say or express in hopes to avoid some trigger happy people.

Once someone expresses how they feel possibly MJ and Madonna (even if briefly) really connected or MJ may actually had some few moments of enjoying Madonna. All hail breaks loose!

Some people lose their minds on how can anyone think MJ could possibly like this woman?

They love to throw in the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes of MJ talking. I don't focus so much on the whole 'she was in love with me and I wasn't with her'. I focused on some other stuff MJ hinted around about in those tapes about him & Madonna, plus what he told to many of his ADULT male friends who found out there was more than what the cameras saw. Or what the public "thinks".

I'm just going to leave that one alone. However, I still stand by what I've always said, only Madonna and MJ actually knows what exactly all happened between them. And I (personally) don't find everything he said in those the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes as the gospel! MJ was good a painting a certain picture based on what he felt people may expect or want of him.

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I'll leave you with this. Either what the only thing Madonna shared to James publicly of kissing MJ was that good of some damn chocolate lips that left her stuck like TatiThumb or there were some other stuff that left her stuck on him after all these years.

She did say this though to Norpah in '96, 'I can't respect a man who kisses and tells.'

MJ told Norpah in '93, 'I am a gentleman.' He didn't believe in kissing and telling and Madonna knew he was exactly that type.

From MJ's own words about him and Madonna

Madonna: I got my finger in between my legs (obviously she was thinking of him, fantasizing about him, being in between her legs).

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MJ: Oh no!

Madonna: This is what I want you to do once I get off this phone. Rub yourself and think of me.

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*Add that with what she was willing to share to James...

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Make of this what you will.

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Hey, I'm not saying I disagree with you but I'm trying my hardest to reserve what I really want to say or express in hopes to avoid some trigger happy people.

Once someone expresses how they feel possibly MJ and Madonna (even if briefly) really connected or MJ may actually had some few moments of enjoying Madonna. All hail breaks loose!

Some people lose their minds on how can anyone think MJ could possibly like this woman?

They love to throw in the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes of MJ talking. I don't focus so much on the whole 'she was in love with me and I wasn't with her'. I focused on some other stuff MJ hinted around about in those tapes about him & Madonna, plus what he told to many of his ADULT male friends who found out there was more than what the cameras saw. Or what the public "thinks".

I'm just going to leave that one alone. However, I still stand by what I've always said, only Madonna and MJ actually knows what exactly all happened between them. And I (personally) don't find everything he said in those the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes as the gospel! MJ was good a painting a certain picture based on what he felt people may expect or want of him.

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I'll leave you with this. Either what the only thing Madonna shared to James publicly of kissing MJ was that good of some damn chocolate lips that left her stuck like TatiThumb or there were some other stuff that left her stuck on him after all these years.

She did say this though to Norpah in '96, 'I can't respect a man who kisses and tells.'

MJ told Norpah in '93, 'I am a gentleman.' He didn't believe in kissing and telling and Madonna knew he was exactly that type.

From MJ's own words about him and Madonna

Madonna: I got my finger in between my legs (obviously she was thinking of him, fantasizing about him, being in between her legs).

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MJ: Oh no!

Madonna: This is what I want you to do once I get off this phone. Rub yourself and think of me.

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*Add that with what she was willing to share to James...

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Make of this what you will.

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I mean, why else would he talk so nasty about her (in those tapes), calling her an ‘evil witch’ n everything. Seems like he was angry at her for some reason... Like I said, event tho they dated for a brief time, I definitely think he enjoyed it, but something may have happened between them that made him want to get out of it..




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I mean, why else would he talk so nasty about her (in those tapes), calling her an ‘evil witch’ n everything. Seems like he was angry at her for some reason... Like I said, event tho they dated for a brief time, I definitely think he enjoyed it, but something may have happened between them that made him want to get out of it..




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Yep, I always thought the exact same thing! And I remember that Joe M. story as well, I thought that was very telling!
 
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I agree something might have happened for him to call her a witch in front of someone who was taping what he was saying.
Michael never called names on anyone, at least in public.
I really wonders what it is.
 
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Michael didn't hate Madonna. That sleazy Rabbi edited their conversations to make it look like Michael hated Madonna when it's the Rabbi who hated her. I've seen the book. Not everything Michael said about Madonna was negative.

And the Rabbi lied about Michael wanting those conversations to go public. Those were definitely private conversations not meant for public viewing. He also stole money from one of Michael's charities so their relationship didn't end in a friendly way.

Michael also once told one his co-workers during This Is It that he dated Madonna. I'm also pretty sure "She Drives Me Wild" is about Madonna.
 
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Michael didn't hate Madonna. That sleazy Rabbi edited their conversations to make it look like Michael hated Madonna when it's the Rabbi who hated her. I've seen the book. Not everything Michael said about Madonna was negative.

And the Rabbi lied about Michael wanting those conversations to go public. Those were definitely private conversations not meant for public viewing. He also stole money from one of Michael's charities so their relationship didn't end in a friendly way.

Michael also once told one his co-workers during This Is It that he dated Madonna. I'm also pretty sure "She Drives Me Wild" is about Madonna.
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Thank you for your post! I'm applauding it!

And I would include: She's Got It and I want to include another song I think during that time was about her too. Although he wrote the demo before they got together but I'm going to leave what song I think alone because I know how some feel about that song.
 
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Michael didn't hate Madonna. That sleazy Rabbi edited their conversations to make it look like Michael hated Madonna when it's the Rabbi who hated her. I've seen the book. Not everything Michael said about Madonna was negative.

And the Rabbi lied about Michael wanting those conversations to go public. Those were definitely private conversations not meant for public viewing. He also stole money from one of Michael's charities so their relationship didn't end in a friendly way.

Michael also once told one his co-workers during This Is It that he dated Madonna. I'm also pretty sure "She Drives Me Wild" is about Madonna.
What else did he say about her?
 
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From Shmuley's The Michael Jackson Tapes:

MJ: Madonna has never apologized [about being mean to Michael]. She is jealous.
SB: She wants to be the biggest star in the world?
MJ: Yes, she is jealous.
SB: You can’t understand that. You would say, “What are you jealous for? You do your thing. I do my thing. . . .”
MJ: But at the same time she will come to my concert and cry. She comes there and tears rolling down her face for the song and the presentation of the song. There are some good qualities in her.
SB: There are good qualities in her. But you’re saying she allows her jealousy to mask them at times. But if someone does that, they don’t even have to ask for forgiveness because you will just forgive them?
MJ: Yes.

It's also important to note that this book is titled The Michael Jackson Tapes, but I've never even heard of any tapes containing these conversations except for the one where Michael was angry with Madonna. So I would take this book's veracity with a grain of salt. Shmuley can easily make up his own fan fiction in here.
 
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From Shmuley's The Michael Jackson Tapes:



It's also important to note that this book is titled The Michael Jackson Tapes, but I've never even heard of any tapes containing these conversations except for the one where Michael was angry with Madonna. So I would take this book's veracity with a grain of salt. Shmuley can easily make up his own fan fiction in here.
Plus, in most of his conversations, it seems like Shmuley is already answering the questions for MJ
 
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I found this unreleased song from her Rebel Heart album that sounds like it's about Michael. I think it's a pretty good song. Shame it didn't make it to the final cut but was leaked.


"You're from a different time"
"And my favorite part is left inside my heart / Holding you close"
"You know I love you the most / I'm not ashamed to say"
"I feel your phantom touch / It's a pleasure, I need so much"
 
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I found this unreleased song from her Rebel Heart album that sounds like it's about Michael. I think it's a pretty good song. Shame it didn't make it to the final cut but was leaked.


"You're from a different time"
"And my favorite part is left inside my heart / Holding you close"
"You know I love you the most / I'm not ashamed to say"
"I feel your phantom touch / It's a pleasure, I need so much"
To be honest there's several songs I think are actually about him. And they got some interesting connections with similar/exact song titles too!

Again, there are many things of these two that are actually endless. But yes, this song you posted here I can see how it could be about him, I wouldn't be surprised if it ever turns out it was!
 
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I don't think any of these are about Michael either.
I love the Rebel Heart album and this lyrics above are really madonnesque and in the theme of that album.
None of them reminds me of Mike particularly.
 
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Okay, how about this one. This should've been a single, in my opinion. But it's only on the super deluxe version.


"You're so clever you're the devil watch you slither away"
"You were the one who broke my heart / You were gonna be the one who tore it apart"
"Your truth is a lie"

She did say on Howard Stern that the love of her life is the relationship she fucked up.

I'm also pretty sure "Take A Bow" and its sequel "You'll See" are about Michael, too.

I guess I turned this thread into deciphering Madonna lyrics. :joy:
 
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"Frozen" reminds of MJ.

I think she said "Frozen" was about "people in general."

But, the "Power of Goodbye" was about a relationship that went wrong. So maybe that one.

"Your heart is not open, so I must go / The spell has been broken, I loved you so"
"You were the lesson I had to learn / I was your fortress, you had to burn"
"There's nothing left to try / There's no more places left to hide"

Madonna went through a lovesick phase after Erotica.
 

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