I think we should ask Madonna if she had a sleepover at Neverland? You kow she will say yes or no. As she said to James Corbin..she gets around.
On Madonna don't believe he's guilty, I hope you're right!I don't think Madonna personally believes he is guilty but will go along with the crowd because of the stupid MeToo cult.
She posted this a week before LN came out.
I've always found their relationship poignant. She clearly loves MJ a lot, and he's probably her true love since she's been posting so much about him. But their relationship didn't work out in the end. I also suspect a lot of her sad pop ballads are about Michael.
What got me the most, here while she was married to Sean Penn she dedicated her True Blue album to him, yet MJ's brother Jackie Jackson sings on that album. I can go on so many other things as well.
This was shared years ago on LSA, when the original MJ stans had about everything there was to know on MJ and there were some who seemed to be fans (or at least) very interested in two of them.Wow, I've never heard that before. Can you give me a source?
Sorry, I thought you meant that the album was dedicated to Michael, not to her husband at the time. Thanks for all the information though.This was shared years ago on LSA, when the original MJ stans had about everything there was to know on MJ and there were some who seemed to be fans (or at least) very interested in two of them.
But let me see what I can do:
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Madonna – True Blue
Label:
Sire – 25442-1
Format:
Vinyl, LP, Album, Limited Edition, Blue
Country:
Australia
Released:
1986
Genre:
Rock, Pop
Style:
Pop Rock
Papa Don't Preach
Acoustic Guitar – John PutnamArranged By [Strings] – Billy Meyers*Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrums – Stephen BrayElectric Guitar – Bruce Gaitsch, John PutnamKeyboards – Stephen BrayKeyboards [Additional] – Fred ZarrLyrics By [Additional] – MadonnaPercussion – Jonathan MoffettProducer – Madonna, Stephen BrayRhythm Guitar – David Williams (4)
Open Your Heart
Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – MadonnaDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – David Williams (4)Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Gardner Cole, Madonna, Peter Ralfelson*
White Heat
Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – David Williams (4), Jackie Jackson, Jonathan Moffett, Kiethan Carter*, Richard MarxDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayDrums – Jonathan MoffettGuitar – Bruce Gaitsch, Paul Jackson Jr.Keyboards – Pat Leonard*Producer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*
Love Makes The World Go Round
Backing Vocals [Background Vocals] – Edie Lehmann, Madonna, Siedah GarrettDrum Programming – Pat Leonard*, Stephen BrayGuitar – Paul Jackson Jr.Percussion – Paulinho da CostaProducer – Madonna, Patrick LeonardWritten-By – Madonna, Pat Leonard*
Notes
Includes poster.
On white lyric insert with blue/ grey writing the following is noted;
"White Heat": Dedicated to Jimmy Cagney.
This album was recorded at Channel Recording and mixed at Master Control.
Originally mastered at Future Disc.
Paulinho da Costa appears courtesy of Pablo Records.
Siedah Garrett appears courtesy of Qwest Records.
Jackie Jackson appears courtesy of Epic Records.
Paul Jackson Jr. appears courtesy of Mankind Productions.
Yamaha equipment appears courtesy of Doug Buttleman.
This album is dedicated to my husband, the coolest guy in the universe.
℗ + © 1986 Sire Records Company for the U.S. and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the U.S.
Madonna - True Blue
*NOTE: There were other songs on this album but in just about all of them both Jonathan 'Sugarfoot' Moffett and Siedah Garrett are all through this album!
***More info:
True Blue was the first album where Madonna included Spanish themes as evident in the song "La Isla Bonita".[15] The song was written for Michael Jackson's Bad album, but he had turned it down.
**And by the way, Sean & Madonna had MJ's home phone number. They called over to his house because the songwriter of that song that MJ rejected was there, still working with MJ. They wanted to let the songwriter know since MJ didn't want that song, Madonna surely wanted it. There's like a laundry list of back-up singers, musicians, songwriters, producers, directors, choreographers, dancers, agents, managers, mutual celeb friends, designers, and etc. that Madonna made sure she shared, that MJ had!
The album was inspired by and dedicated to actor Sean Penn, Madonna's husband at the time.
True Blue (Madonna album) - Wikipedia
That's okay, I didn't mean to disappoint you if I did. No, if that had happened, that would have been shocked/scandal to everybody back then considering Sean was her husband at the time. I just thought it was interesting that True Blue was "dedicated" to Sean but MJ's brother sings on it and she got various people who were working with MJ on this "dedicated" album of Sean's.Sorry, I thought you meant that the album was dedicated to Michael, not to her husband at the time. Thanks for all the information though.
I definitely think MJ actually enjoyed the short time that they dated
How on Earth did I miss this! I've been trying to search and see if she's posted anything in the lines of this near/around LN!
Thanks for sharing this!
Then, possibly there's hope!
But yes, at this point, I'm convinced regardless what really went on between them (which yes, no secret how/why it didn't work out) he is the real love of her life.
And I as well have often felt that her sad pop ballads are about him. I could go on & on about which songs, what key lyrics, etc.
What got me the most, here while she was married to Sean Penn she dedicated her True Blue album to him, yet MJ's brother Jackie Jackson sings on that album. I can go on so many other things as well.
There are actually many years of Madonna's ongoing need to continue to be connected to MJ. That proves to me it wasn't just out of a "career move".
That was why I was not surprised over her "So Did I" speech because that was her way of continuing her connection to him. You would have thought she was the grieving widow of Michael Jackson or something!
Hey, I'm not saying I disagree with you but I'm trying my hardest to reserve what I really want to say or express in hopes to avoid some trigger happy people.
I mean, why else would he talk so nasty about her (in those tapes), calling her an ‘evil witch’ n everything. Seems like he was angry at her for some reason... Like I said, event tho they dated for a brief time, I definitely think he enjoyed it, but something may have happened between them that made him want to get out of it..Hey, I'm not saying I disagree with you but I'm trying my hardest to reserve what I really want to say or express in hopes to avoid some trigger happy people.
Once someone expresses how they feel possibly MJ and Madonna (even if briefly) really connected or MJ may actually had some few moments of enjoying Madonna. All hail breaks loose!
Some people lose their minds on how can anyone think MJ could possibly like this woman?
They love to throw in the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes of MJ talking. I don't focus so much on the whole 'she was in love with me and I wasn't with her'. I focused on some other stuff MJ hinted around about in those tapes about him & Madonna, plus what he told to many of his ADULT male friends who found out there was more than what the cameras saw. Or what the public "thinks".
I'm just going to leave that one alone. However, I still stand by what I've always said, only Madonna and MJ actually knows what exactly all happened between them. And I (personally) don't find everything he said in those the Rabbit's jacked up audio tapes as the gospel! MJ was good a painting a certain picture based on what he felt people may expect or want of him.
I'll leave you with this. Either what the only thing Madonna shared to James publicly of kissing MJ was that good of some damn chocolate lips that left her stuck like TatiThumb or there were some other stuff that left her stuck on him after all these years.
She did say this though to Norpah in '96, 'I can't respect a man who kisses and tells.'
MJ told Norpah in '93, 'I am a gentleman.' He didn't believe in kissing and telling and Madonna knew he was exactly that type.
From MJ's own words about him and Madonna
Madonna: I got my finger in between my legs (obviously she was thinking of him, fantasizing about him, being in between her legs).
MJ: Oh no!
Madonna: This is what I want you to do once I get off this phone. Rub yourself and think of me.
*Add that with what she was willing to share to James...
Make of this what you will.
Yep, I always thought the exact same thing! And I remember that Joe M. story as well, I thought that was very telling!I mean, why else would he talk so nasty about her (in those tapes), calling her an ‘evil witch’ n everything. Seems like he was angry at her for some reason... Like I said, event tho they dated for a brief time, I definitely think he enjoyed it, but something may have happened between them that made him want to get out of it..
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Michael didn't hate Madonna. That sleazy Rabbi edited their conversations to make it look like Michael hated Madonna when it's the Rabbi who hated her. I've seen the book. Not everything Michael said about Madonna was negative.
And the Rabbi lied about Michael wanting those conversations to go public. Those were definitely private conversations not meant for public viewing. He also stole money from one of Michael's charities so their relationship didn't end in a friendly way.
Michael also once told one his co-workers during This Is It that he dated Madonna. I'm also pretty sure "She Drives Me Wild" is about Madonna.
What else did he say about her?Michael didn't hate Madonna. That sleazy Rabbi edited their conversations to make it look like Michael hated Madonna when it's the Rabbi who hated her. I've seen the book. Not everything Michael said about Madonna was negative.
And the Rabbi lied about Michael wanting those conversations to go public. Those were definitely private conversations not meant for public viewing. He also stole money from one of Michael's charities so their relationship didn't end in a friendly way.
Michael also once told one his co-workers during This Is It that he dated Madonna. I'm also pretty sure "She Drives Me Wild" is about Madonna.
MJ: Madonna has never apologized [about being mean to Michael]. She is jealous.
SB: She wants to be the biggest star in the world?
MJ: Yes, she is jealous.
SB: You can’t understand that. You would say, “What are you jealous for? You do your thing. I do my thing. . . .”
MJ: But at the same time she will come to my concert and cry. She comes there and tears rolling down her face for the song and the presentation of the song. There are some good qualities in her.
SB: There are good qualities in her. But you’re saying she allows her jealousy to mask them at times. But if someone does that, they don’t even have to ask for forgiveness because you will just forgive them?
MJ: Yes.
Plus, in most of his conversations, it seems like Shmuley is already answering the questions for MJFrom Shmuley's The Michael Jackson Tapes:
It's also important to note that this book is titled The Michael Jackson Tapes, but I've never even heard of any tapes containing these conversations except for the one where Michael was angry with Madonna. So I would take this book's veracity with a grain of salt. Shmuley can easily make up his own fan fiction in here.
I found this unreleased song from her Rebel Heart album that sounds like it's about Michael. I think it's a pretty good song. Shame it didn't make it to the final cut but was leaked.
"You're from a different time"
"And my favorite part is left inside my heart / Holding you close"
"You know I love you the most / I'm not ashamed to say"
"I feel your phantom touch / It's a pleasure, I need so much"
Me too! For some reason"Frozen" reminds of MJ.
"Frozen" reminds of MJ.
I think many of those songs on Erotica. There was one 'Did You Do It?' or some title song like that on that album. Where it is a tease about her and a guy (a black guy at that) over did they go all the way or didn't they?
I think she said "Frozen" was about "people in general."
But, the "Power of Goodbye" was about a relationship that went wrong. So maybe that one.
"Your heart is not open, so I must go / The spell has been broken, I loved you so"
"You were the lesson I had to learn / I was your fortress, you had to burn"
"There's nothing left to try / There's no more places left to hide"
Madonna went through a lovesick phase after Erotica.
Okay, how about this one. This should've been a single, in my opinion. But it's only on the super deluxe version.
"You're so clever you're the devil watch you slither away"
"You were the one who broke my heart / You were gonna be the one who tore it apart"
"Your truth is a lie"
She did say on Howard Stern that the love of her life is the relationship she fµcked up.
I'm also pretty sure "Take A Bow" and its sequel "You'll See" are about Michael, too.
I guess I turned this thread into deciphering Madonna lyrics.
I don't want to start any arguments here but did you read or see when Sean did a 2012 interview where he felt that neither one of his wives (which include Madonna) never really loved him?None of these songs are about Michael.
Most of them are about her husbands Sean or Guy and then various boyfriends. Erotica was about Sean.
Nah Frozen is about getting someone to open up to her which we know she tried to do with MJ.
I think she said "Frozen" was about "people in general."
But, the "Power of Goodbye" was about a relationship that went wrong. So maybe that one.
"Your heart is not open, so I must go / The spell has been broken, I loved you so"
"You were the lesson I had to learn / I was your fortress, you had to burn"
"There's nothing left to try / There's no more places left to hide"
Madonna went through a lovesick phase after Erotica.
That rumored lady was much older than him tho.And rumor has it he didn’t like going down on Madonna, and that “a leading lady he visited on set taught him a few things about xes.”
Some feel her original version of Eroctia is about him because it was called "You Thrill Me" and has similar lyrics to RTT and some other clues. I could point out some other things like in her Erotica album and xes book, which she wears her Oscar dress in that! In one page in her book, she's photographed making out with a man (in that Oscar dress) backstage from somewhere.There are still people denying they dated some time between ‘91 & ‘94 even though so many rumors have been dropped.
Speaking of Erotica, there are these cringeworthy lines from “Where Life Begins” about oral xes.
“Now what could be better than a home cooked meal
How you want to eat it depends on how you feel
You can eat all you want and you don't get fat
Now where else can you go for a meal like that”
“Colonel Sanders says it best
"Finger lickin' good"
Let's put what you've learned to the test
Can you make a fire without using wood”
Well, we fans know how Michael liked fried chicken....
And rumor has it he didn’t like going down on Madonna, and that “a leading lady he visited on set taught him a few things about xes.”
“Take A Bow” / “You’ll See” are the ones I’m most confident are about Michael.
“Lonely star”
“Hide behind your smile”
“All the world loves a clown”
She was the one dumped Sean, so the songs about unrequited love aren’t about him. She was the one who left Warren, too.
That rumored lady was much older than him tho.
Actually when Madonna was on Arsenio Hall show she came on there and discussed this adult movie she saw, this was like in 1992 and she was with Vanilla Ice then. I think she even mentioned Vanilla's name.Oh, woops. I misremembered. I was thinking about the "leading lady who showed Michael a movie and jumped his bones," according to David Gest. Madonna once talked about showing an erotic movie to Michael, and "fµck!ng her boyfriend after watching a movie."
The older woman sounds like Diana Ross.
Actually when Madonna was on Arsenio Hall show she came on there and discussed this adult movie she saw, this was like in 1992 and she was with Vanilla Ice then. I think she even mentioned Vanilla's name.