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I'm tellin' yall!

Michael and Whitney sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! :rose:

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Man I feel so bad for their tea MJ tried to warn her about Bobby brown lord did Whitney go through some pain love this picture thro
 

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If they were married maybe both could still be alive...
 

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Yes there has been many speculations and maybe one confirmation, i just thought of sharing this with the LSA Family ....
According to Youtube's godourfather1, he/she/they claim to be in be in the know..... This person won't reveal their ties to the King but made sure to defend mike and the assumptions that he was in a relationship with joanna thomae...

Here is the link...Michael Jackson & Joanna Thomae -The Real Story - - YouTube

Michael Jackson was dedicated to long time girlfriend not Joanne Thomea, he was nice to her just like he is nice to all his fans. She overstated her relationship with him. His real girlfriend will never come out , if you knew Michael you could see her influence on him..... they were amazing together
godourfather1 6 months ago

l had a response so l will answer, MJ and Joanna Thomae were not in a relationship is a lie if you are gullable to believe this then you are silly. l know the truth thats why l am talking. Michael Jackson had a girlfriend for 9 years she was closer to his age, they were getting married. He was loved her not anyone else, it was not Thomae..it never was and if she said it was she is lying she was a fan...he had someone he adored it was not Lisa marie. This is not speculation it is the truth
godourfather1 4 months ago

Fiona3000. Yes a few people know who his girlfriend was and his children would know as well. But they will not reveal it because MJ and she would not want this, he protected her. He did speak about her to a very few people they were planning to marry but he unfortunately died before this could happen. Had they married he would not have died she was a health fanatic, he was waiting for her to arrive when he died.

godourfather1 2 months ago

Michael jackson wanted to be seen with girls because he wanted to show he was not gay and he did not fancy boys. He did this with many girls including Joanna, his real girlfriend did not want to be seen, you will never see her. Joanna was way to young for him anyway. He was very kind and tried to make some of his fans dreams come true. He was waiting for his real girlfriend to arrive when he died they were going to live together, unfortunately she got there to late.
godourfather1 1 month ago

Dear xley384, l can't reveal that because someone close to him never would.
His life was not a mess like the press has made out, he was not a drug addict, he could not sleep that was his issue. He was not murdered either but was an accident, the doctor should have taken care of him not given him all that stuff.
It's easy to see Joanna was not the one..... they never ended up together. MJ was waiting for the real one when he died...he would not have died if she had been there.
godourfather1in reply to xley384(Show the comment) 3 weeks ago

Dear everyone, Joanna does not know the real reason MJ took any notice of her...she was only a fan, you see she only knows her side...l know his side and l can tell you he was not in love with her. He had a girlfriend already who he loved and was with to the day he died. They were going to marry. if Joanna knew the truth she would never has posted this rubbish online or done interviews. The real ones never would. Same as Tatiana she thought everything when there was nothing. This is the truth.
godourfather1 2 weeks ago

Dear fede4real, Get real...give Michael Jackson some credit will you... he did not take her to his room to do the wrong thing, why do you believe this crap. Joanna has no idea why he even took notice of her, if she knew the truth she would not like it l cannot say. MJ was not in love with her or even interested in her, he did what he did for a reason she has completely overstated their friendship...she is only a fan l know this 100%.
godourfather1in reply to fede4real(Show the comment) 2 weeks ago




dear xley384, l can't reveal anymore l am sorry. You see the real people behind him don't come out it's the fake ones that do and want the attention. I wish they would all just leave him alone and let him rest in peace.

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Well, i kind of agree with the opinion of the comment that his real friends would not come out.
 

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I am so sick of these "I know, but I can't tell" people. Then shut the hell up, then! On top of that, I am sick of people claiming that they know that Michael was in some "secret relationship." I have been reading this crap since I was a member of the KOPB. Someone comes a long and say that Michael was in a relationship with a woman, that they were going to get married, and blah, blah, blah. First it started with some woman named Sebah or something, and then it went from there. The story is always the same: they were together for a billion years, they are so in love, and they are going to get married OR have already SECRETLY gotten married. I call bµllsh!t! No, Michael was NOT gay, but all these Michael was in a secret relationship and was in love stories are stupid. Michael was a private person, period, so of course anyone who knows that Michael wasn't gay can come a long and say that he was in some long-term relationship that the public doesn't know about. I'm not saying that it's not true that he had relationships. Yes, he did. My point is that anyone can come and make stuff up about this because you don't need much a formula. Also, IN MY OPINION, Michael wasn't the type to be committed, so he could have had a lot of women, and the people "in the know" could be talking about anyone one of them, if they are telling the truth to begin with.

Well, I was hopeful when the bodyguards were going to write a book. But I guess the Karen Moriarity chick paid them so she could write something?
 

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^ I believe that, too! At least very much more than the public knew!
 

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^^Yup! I think those in the know have chopped "her" up into fragments when it's really just one person. Not saying there was only one woman EVER but MJ strikes me as someone who's heartmuscle is loyal to a fault. Now the Forcemuscle operates under a totally different jurisdiction...IYKWIM
 

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The quote where it states that MJ wanted to be seen with girls due to the gay rumors breaks my heart. MJ was a straight, red blooded heterosexual male and I'm no expert on his xes life and personal relationships but I'm pretty sure that given his stature that MJ had many many women, from fans to famous people that he not only had relationships with but lots and lots of xes too.

I always laugh at Oprah's stupidity when she asked him if he was a virgin??? Puhleeezzz!! If MJ was a virgin at the time of this interview at the age of 35 then you can call me the Toothfairy!
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The quote where it states that MJ wanted to be seen with girls due to the gay rumors breaks my heart. MJ was a straight, red blooded heterosexual male and I'm no expert on his xes life and personal relationships but I'm pretty sure that given his stature that MJ had many many women, from fans to famous people that he not only had relationships with but lots and lots of xes too.

I always laugh at Oprah's stupidity when she asked him if he was a virgin??? Puhleeezzz!! If MJ was a virgin at the time of this interview at the age of 35 then you can call me the Toothfairy!
 

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I believe if MJ had a girlfriend no one knew about her.

This girl have been talked about before his death and other women no one knew about.

Only MJ know and his gone now, they need to move on and stop trying search for answer they don't know.
 

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Yes it was my mother from gary im his secert daughter that was hidden the world will know soon i have all the evidence the world will know soon mj my father my twin
 

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One of the only people I trust when it comes to MJ is Paris (along with her brothers) & she says that MJ did have a girlfriend when he died. She said she was middle eastern & she spent MJ's last Christmas with them.
Me too. IDK why everyone is discounting that. Paris was with her dad in the Middle East. Why wouldn’t she know?

I was also looking for the thread on that Rushka lady who’s clothing designs looked pretty good on MJ, after I read the PPB thread which got me curious about her.

She’s working with his kids now as well as his good bud Chris Tucker.

I wish I could find the thread! IDK where Rushka is from.

I missed out on the topic at the time.

What does the collective of detectives say?
 

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Me too. IDK why everyone is discounting that. Paris was with her dad in the Middle East. Why wouldn’t she know?

I was also looking for the thread on that Rushka lady who’s clothing designs looked pretty good on MJ, after I read the PPB thread which got me curious about her.

She’s working with his kids now as well as his good bud Chris Tucker.

I wish I could find the thread! IDK where Rushka is from.

I missed out on the topic at the time.

What does the collective of detectives say?


Rushka is Croatian.
 

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Me too. IDK why everyone is discounting that. Paris was with her dad in the Middle East. Why wouldn’t she know?

I was also looking for the thread on that Rushka lady who’s clothing designs looked pretty good on MJ, after I read the PPB thread which got me curious about her.

She’s working with his kids now as well as his good bud Chris Tucker.

I wish I could find the thread! IDK where Rushka is from.

I missed out on the topic at the time.

What does the collective of detectives say?
MJ was looking for a right wife/mother figure material all the time. Do you think Paris (as 10-11 years old)would be able to recognize where the potential right candidate came from lol? Or she would just asked the lady the question lol.? She definitely could recognize a heavy accent but I would not count on this since kids were familiar with people speaking English as second language. MJ liked to keep his household multicultural and bilingual. All Cascios spoke fluently Italian language, Bhatti family speaks Norwegian language between themselves and their Philippine teacher never abandoned her roots. And I wonder in which way would you be able to recognize the difference between exotic looking beautiful girl (with heavy accent) coming from Bulgaria, Romania, former Soviet Union (which includes all of the present independent countries), Poland or even Israel (which still carry the same heavy accent as Eastern Europe) and Middle East LOL ?
The only one thing we can be sure is that he was keeping his relationships secret from his children too and he was absolutely right about it. Until he was positive that he found the right person it was not necessarily to introduce her as their future step mother. Sound Of Music story was not totally a fiction. The ladies like Maria always existed lol. Unfortunately MJ wasn’t lucky enough and he didn’t live long enough to find one...
Personally I absolutely don’t believe that MJ shared the nature of his intimate relationship with anyone before his death. Except bodyguards who didn’t sell too much there is no one else who could tell more. And the involved ladies have every right and reason to sustain their privacy.
 
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I was watching MJ on Youtube when I came across a video of him out shopping. I don't know how to upload it but you can go to "NEWS Michael Jackson spotted shopping 10 23 08" and pay attention between 0:15 and 0:18 as a female is being escorted out the back.....Makes you wonder????? (Michael you ain't slick...lol)

Nope people keep talking about this and that same girl came back in, got more packages then went out again, then if you watch closely she’s standing outside of the truck waving bye to him.
 

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MJ was looking for a right wife/mother figure material all the time. Do you think Paris (as 10-11 years old)would be able to recognize where the potential right candidate came from lol? Or she would just asked the lady the question lol.? She definitely could recognize a heavy accent but I would not count on this since kids were familiar with people speaking English as second language. MJ liked to keep his household multicultural and bilingual. All Cascios spoke fluently Italian language, Bhatti family speaks Norwegian language between themselves and their Philippine teacher never abandoned her roots. And I wonder in which way would you be able to recognize the difference between exotic looking beautiful girl (with heavy accent) coming from Bulgaria, Romania, former Soviet Union (which includes all of the present independent countries), Poland or even Israel (which still carry the same heavy accent as Eastern Europe) and Middle East LOL ?
The only one thing we can be sure is that he was keeping his relationships secret from his children too and he was absolutely right about it. Until he was positive that he found the right person it was not necessarily to introduce her as their future step mother. Sound Of Music story was not totally a fiction. The ladies like Maria always existed lol. Unfortunately MJ wasn’t lucky enough and he didn’t live long enough to find one...
Personally I absolutely don’t believe that MJ shared the nature of his intimate relationship with anyone before his death. Except bodyguards who didn’t sell too much there is no one else who could tell more. And the involved ladies have every right and reason to sustain their privacy.
That’s why I enjoy this collective of detectives.

We all see things differently sometimes.

I was thinking more along the lines of Paris meeting the “Middle Eastern Girlfriend” whilst with her father in the Middle East, then seeing the same lady at the holiday dinner.

I think at ten she could know the nature of the relationships women had to her dad. Not the details but the general nature of the relationship. Perhaps it was the way the Middle Eastern lady and her dad interacted, differently than the myriads of females who were in their environment.

Why couldn’t she even have been a dancer, or harem girl. I see MJ as educating and enlightening his children as well as possible on who’s who in their world. In general I mean.

As for Rushka, she is apparently close in proximity to his children and his good friend. I feel there must be a reason.
 

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Rushka is Croatian.
She outfitted MJ for Luomo Vogue. Now she’s working with HEAL L.A.

That’s interesting considering everyone seems to have written her off as potentially a secret love interest.
 

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She outfitted MJ for Luomo Vogue. Now she’s working with HEAL L.A.

That’s interesting considering everyone seems to have written her off as potentially a secret love interest.

All I know is if we're going by what Paris said, Rushka wouldn't fit.
 

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She outfitted MJ for Luomo Vogue. Now she’s working with HEAL L.A.

That’s interesting considering everyone seems to have written her off as potentially a secret love interest.

Isn’t she the one that had him wearing those vampire shoulder pad jackets?
 

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All I know is if we're going by what Paris said, Rushka wouldn't fit.
That’s true. I guess I look at it as, MJ being a single dad, internationally sought after, and liking every type of female, I guess I’m saying I don’t see ruling her out as a lover. It’s also why these topics about MJ and women boggle my mind.

I would think Paris mentioning the M.E. woman was in context of the question in terms of it being an experience most recent to Paris at the time and most dominant in her mind because of “the last holiday” dinner her dad had with the chick and his kids — but that to me doesn’t rule out others she wouldn’t know much or anything about right under her nose eg., Grace whom she found in her dad’s bed but he evidently played it off..

I would think since Rushka is obviously not from L.A. (didn’t she work with him in Italy or was it NY or LA) there must be a reason she’s working with his kids eg., she needed a job? Just thinking out loud...
 

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Yes there has been many speculations and maybe one confirmation, i just thought of sharing this with the LSA Family ....
According to Youtube's godourfather1, he/she/they claim to be in be in the know..... This person won't reveal their ties to the King but made sure to defend mike and the assumptions that he was in a relationship with joanna thomae...

Here is the link...[ame="[MEDIA=youtube]lt6dU_ZsFv4[/MEDIA]"]Michael Jackson & Joanna Thomae -The Real Story - - YouTube[/ame]

Michael Jackson was dedicated to long time girlfriend not Joanne Thomea, he was nice to her just like he is nice to all his fans. She overstated her relationship with him. His real girlfriend will never come out , if you knew Michael you could see her influence on him..... they were amazing together
godourfather1 6 months ago

l had a response so l will answer, MJ and Joanna Thomae were not in a relationship is a lie if you are gullable to believe this then you are silly. l know the truth thats why l am talking. Michael Jackson had a girlfriend for 9 years she was closer to his age, they were getting married. He was loved her not anyone else, it was not Thomae..it never was and if she said it was she is lying she was a fan...he had someone he adored it was not Lisa marie. This is not speculation it is the truth
godourfather1 4 months ago

Fiona3000. Yes a few people know who his girlfriend was and his children would know as well. But they will not reveal it because MJ and she would not want this, he protected her. He did speak about her to a very few people they were planning to marry but he unfortunately died before this could happen. Had they married he would not have died she was a health fanatic, he was waiting for her to arrive when he died.

godourfather1 2 months ago

Michael jackson wanted to be seen with girls because he wanted to show he was not gay and he did not fancy boys. He did this with many girls including Joanna, his real girlfriend did not want to be seen, you will never see her. Joanna was way to young for him anyway. He was very kind and tried to make some of his fans dreams come true. He was waiting for his real girlfriend to arrive when he died they were going to live together, unfortunately she got there to late.
godourfather1 1 month ago

Dear xley384, l can't reveal that because someone close to him never would.
His life was not a mess like the press has made out, he was not a drug addict, he could not sleep that was his issue. He was not murdered either but was an accident, the doctor should have taken care of him not given him all that stuff.
It's easy to see Joanna was not the one..... they never ended up together. MJ was waiting for the real one when he died...he would not have died if she had been there.
godourfather1in reply to xley384(Show the comment) 3 weeks ago

Dear everyone, Joanna does not know the real reason MJ took any notice of her...she was only a fan, you see she only knows her side...l know his side and l can tell you he was not in love with her. He had a girlfriend already who he loved and was with to the day he died. They were going to marry. if Joanna knew the truth she would never has posted this rubbish online or done interviews. The real ones never would. Same as Tatiana she thought everything when there was nothing. This is the truth.
godourfather1 2 weeks ago

Dear fede4real, Get real...give Michael Jackson some credit will you... he did not take her to his room to do the wrong thing, why do you believe this crap. Joanna has no idea why he even took notice of her, if she knew the truth she would not like it l cannot say. MJ was not in love with her or even interested in her, he did what he did for a reason she has completely overstated their friendship...she is only a fan l know this 100%.
godourfather1in reply to fede4real(Show the comment) 2 weeks ago




dear xley384, l can't reveal anymore l am sorry. You see the real people behind him don't come out it's the fake ones that do and want the attention. I wish they would all just leave him alone and let him rest in peace.

godourfather1in reply to xley384(Show the comment) 2 weeks ago

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FEEL FREE TO JOIN IN AND EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS... PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS OPINIONS AND BELIEFS.. THIS THREAD IS NOT TO BASH AND/OR REVEAL HIS GIRL'S IDENTITY... ENJOY!
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I keep seeing someone named Christina Maloue Englehardt who claims to have been "flower" and was engaged to MJ before he died. She has 2 recordings of what sound like MJ's voice but with an accent. She has a number of podcasts where she has stories of how she met him in 1996 as having been badly hurt at the 9/7/96 Prague concert and was taken back to see MJ's doctors and MJ walked in to check on her. I can't find anything even remotely related to any of this being true. She doesn't seem like someone that MJ would be interested in. Some of her pictures seem to be fake. Just wondering if anyone has seen this person out there and the claims being made.
 

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I keep seeing someone named Christina Maloue Englehardt who claims to have been "flower" and was engaged to MJ before he died. She has 2 recordings of what sound like MJ's voice but with an accent. She has a number of podcasts where she has stories of how she met him in 1996 as having been badly hurt at the 9/7/96 Prague concert and was taken back to see MJ's doctors and MJ walked in to check on her. I can't find anything even remotely related to any of this being true. She doesn't seem like someone that MJ would be interested in. Some of her pictures seem to be fake. Just wondering if anyone has seen this person out there and the claims being made.
It’s the girl that comes up on google images? She’s …
No comment!
 

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She’s creepy & only posts dangerous era!

Convinced it’s just a fan that made a story up



She also loves w! Z kh@l!fa
 

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