Yes just watched and loved it!
Was debating to make a thread but thought I would have to include cliffs.
Some are saying it was bias towards Whitney but ofc that’s only the lambs saying that..
Yes just watched and loved it!
Was debating to make a thread but thought I would have to include cliffs.
Some are saying it was bias towards Whitney but ofc that’s only the lambs saying that..
I think Whitney still has strong songs though but I do agree Mariah has a better catalogue also a longer one too. but Whitney was def superior and shined the most live.I love both and would never put them against each other. Mariah does have the better songs IMO but Whitney had the voice I would want if I could actually sing.
Literally could just go the comment section...I see or hear of no one saying it's biased towards Whitney. It's clearly not and is favorable and truthful to both artists.
OT: Just finished watching it! Probably the most accurate video I've seen explaining their differences. They really are two sides of the same coin. I stan both women, so I usually go back and forth between the two as my favorite voices.
And I did. Unless you scroll all the way to the bottom, you'll find a couple of delusional stans saying nonsensical things, and some who are just downright trolling, but that's if you intentionally go looking for it.Literally could just go the comment section...
Well, yes because when I made that comment the video had been up for an hour or two and had minimal comments compared to now and at that time a few were from lambs which is why I said what I said. But I get it.And I did. Unless you scroll all the way to the bottom, you'll find a couple of delusional stans saying nonsensical things, and some who are just downright trolling, but that's if you intentionally go looking for it.
My dad once told me he doesn’t like Mariah’s music and I was shocked. He doesn’t like Whitney’s either. He says they are both gifted, though.
I can appreciate where the Youtuber was coming from, but when it comes to the live performer aspect, I do not get why people want to compare 1985-1999 Whitney to 2021 Mariah. Mariah during the Merry Christmas and Daydream era did actually re-conceptualize her music, and when her voice started to mature and her upper belts started to become more raspier, she changed again. Still, I do believe Whitney had the better stage presence of the two.
That’s your preference, which is ok. Music is subjective. Whitney’s music is more timeless to me. All these years later, her music still inspires people. She also has all the MAJOR Grammy wins, inducted into in the R&B and rock&roll hall Of fames, National library of congress, etc. Both catalogs are respected. Mariah’s music became a bit childish later on, but a lot her fans still love it. Vocally Mariah’s also had very shaky live performances from the beginning of her career.Mariah’s music is better. It’s more timeless.
That’s your preference, which is ok. Music is subjective. Whitney’s music is more timeless to me. All these years later, her music still inspires people. Both catalogs are respected. Mariah’s music became a bit childish later on, but a lot her fans still love it. Vocally Mariah’s also had very shaky live performances from the beginning of her career.
Whitney started years before Mariah and clearly had an influence on Mariah. For 30+ years, Whitney’s still considered the best vocalist of her generation and the best vocalist of her era. This fact triggers some people. They’re both respected vocalists but Whitney was 1 of 1.
It’s ironic the nastiest lamb came in here talking about “Whitney stans”.
Of Whitney?That’s a great way to describe Whitney’s approach to her live performances. And it makes sense.
Does anyone know where that choir clip came from?
I think you can sum the two up this way: Mariah is talented. Whitney is anointed. Both are undisputed legends and two of the greatest vocalists of all time.That’s your preference, which is ok. Music is subjective. Whitney’s music is more timeless to me. All these years later, her music still inspires people. She also has all the MAJOR Grammy wins, inducted into in the R&B and rock&roll hall Of fames, National library of congress, etc. Both catalogs are respected. Mariah’s music became a bit childish later on, but a lot her fans still love it. Vocally Mariah’s also had very shaky live performances from the beginning of her career.
Whitney started years before Mariah and clearly had an influence on Mariah. For 30+ years, Whitney’s still considered the best vocalist of her generation and the best vocalist of her era. This fact triggers some people. They’re both respected vocalists but Whitney was 1 of 1.
It’s ironic the nastiest lamb came in here talking about “Whitney stans”. I hope no one else turns this thread into another idiotic beef thread.
Of Whitney?
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I can appreciate where the Youtuber was coming from, but when it comes to the live performer aspect, I do not get why people want to compare 1985-1999 Whitney to 2021 Mariah.
And for the most part, people love both artists. Whitney had the big wins, major acknowledgements, respected by peers. It took Mariah some years to build up her confidence on stage and it showed. Nodule issues, stage freight, not singing live enough caused some of those shaky live performances. Both their catalog remains unmatched and people like who they like. It’s just music. Whitney’s still the best selling Black female artist in history.I think you can sum the two up this way: Mariah is talented. Whitney is anointed. Both are undisputed legends and two of the greatest vocalists of all time.
Mariah’s music is better. It’s more timeless.
ALL.OF.THIS!And for the most part, people love both artists. Whitney had the big wins, major acknowledgements, respected by peers. It took Mariah some years to build up her confidence on stage and it showed. Nodule issues, stage freight, not singing live enough caused some of those shaky live performances. Both their catalog remains unmatched and people like who they like. It’s just music. Whitney’s still the best selling Black female artist in history.
When Whitney debuted out, she was compared to Aretha Franklin. When Mariah debuted she was compared to Whitney. Very few artists have reached their levels. Can’t take that away from them. Now rather than spending time with their mother on this fine Sunday, some eunuchs, wannabe females will derail and trash Whitney for their fave but it’s so low class and childish. This is what some lambs do whenever Whitney’s name is mentioned. Mariah doesn’t need trolls defending her. Her catalog speaks for itself.
Yes, I think both are great and I still listen to both. I just said that I think Mariah’s music is more timeless because I listen to it a little bit more. For instance, Whitney’s song “The Greatest Love of All” is one of my absolute favorites, but I don’t listen to it as often as Mariah’s “Vision of Love,” “Emotions,” or “Breakdown” because it is way too sad/makes me feel sad.I agree with you hun. And if someone singles you out for some reason when we all said the same thing and quotes you with a spiel like a psycotic bully , somebody's mama or gestapo speech police off your 1 sentence, I hope it doesn't discourage you from spreading love about Mariah or anyone else
Mariah having better music than Whitney is such a current myth. Literally nobody said this in real time.
Mariah has had critics as well, such as life. People also get booed it happens lol. 1980s r&b is historically slicker than any other era for a reason. Whitney came up in that era. BTW, Babyface has said numerous times they were working together BEFORE Soul Train. As for the ST incident there is a mix of reasons why it happened but people run with the laziest reason.A lot of people criticized Whitney’s music independent of any Mariah comparisons. Whitney got booed by Black audiences because of the bland pop Clive was making her put out before she started working with Babyface and others.
I think of Mariah’s music as similar because of Tommy, but she broke away and put out some classic albums.
Yes, I think both are great and I still listen to both. I just said that I think Mariah’s music is more timeless because I listen to it a little bit more. For instance, Whitney’s song “The Greatest Love of All” is one of my absolute favorites, but I don’t listen to it as often as Mariah’s “Vision of Love,” “Emotions,” or “Breakdown” because it is way too sad/makes me feel sad.
Mariah has had critics as well, such as life. People also get booed it happens lol. 1980s r&b is historically slicker than any other era for a reason. Whitney came up in that era. BTW, Babyface has said numerous times they were working together BEFORE Soul Train. As for the ST incident there is a mix of reasons why it happened but people run with the laziest reason.
However, what a few no-names did in the audience That Night doesn't represent the Black community as a whole you do know that right?! Whitney refusing to do what was expected of a Black female artist back then is no more a knock on her than the business & society back then. Things have changed and she has rightfully been credited for her contributions. Whitney widely inspired & inspires so many careers including Mariah's.
Exactly. @blumarine every artist gets criticized at some point. No one is immune. Whitney in her own right, broke barriers. None of those “criticisms” stopped Whitney from being the best selling Black female artist in history. Being the blueprint for the likes of Mariah Carey.Mariah has had critics as well, such as life. People also get booed it happens lol. 1980s r&b is historically slicker than any other era for a reason. Whitney came up in that era. BTW, Babyface has said numerous times they were working together BEFORE Soul Train. As for the ST incident there is a mix of reasons why it happened but people run with the laziest reason.
However, what a few no-names did in the audience That Night doesn't represent the Black community as a whole you do know that right?! Whitney refusing to do what was expected of a Black female artist back then is no more a knock on her than the business & society back then. Things have changed and she has rightfully been credited for her contributions. Whitney widely inspired & inspires so many careers including Mariah's.
Right. Same experience for me. Having said that I still liked some MC songs back then but she never moved me like Whitney and that's what it is. However, unlike some MC fans I'm not gonna sit here and act like nobody LOVED MC....I just didnt know many people that did. Either you liked both or they leaned toward Whitney.Mariah having better music than Whitney is such a current myth. Literally nobody said this in real time.