Livia Drusilla
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I am called American. This harsh accent gives it away quickly. Everybody else gets called from where ever their parents or grandparents are from.
Back home, we Somalis call each other Somalis.. but non Somalis (Black people/other Africans) are madow.. which means black In Somali. There are other terms (sometimes derogatory) for black people.
I thought that blacks in France actually preferred to be called "noir" and French whites call them "black" to other them.And you will learn something today : in France, wp are afraid and I mean AFRAID of saying "Noir" (which means "black" in french). So do you know what they say ? They say "BLACK".
Yep. In a whole a** french sentence, they will say "BLACK" when talking about a black person. "Je connais un BLACK qui (...)" = "I know a NOIR who" imagine that lol.
It just feels wrong. Same when you hear "people of color" or "african american" in english instead of black.
yes that's what I wrote, sorry it was maybe confusing.I thought that blacks in France actually preferred to be called "noir" and French whites call them "black" to other them.
Read the history on the how "african american" title came about.
Would you like us to go back to "octoroon" or "negro"?
When I leave the country I say I'm American from the US. bc North and South america is huge and other parts of the americas at times see themselves as american. I was told when traveling that's rude.
But in america i say I'm black. Period. No need to go further.
in Trinidad we say : merikans or africans
Were you born in Norway? Many people don't realize that there is a black population everywhere on earth.
The US denationalized us after slavery.They named us 'Negro' and 'Colored' before Jesse Jackson coined 'African American'. The concept is the same.
I'm American, but from learning the Korean language I've learned that in Korea we are called "Heugin" 흑인 which means "black person", but they also sometimes call African-Americans Apeurikagye migoogin" 아프리카계 미국인 (Americans from Africa) and Black Americans
They do have a "N word" for us too, "Kkamdoongi" 깜둥이 which means Blackie. It's a shame no matter where we go there's derogatory terms for us.
I thought that blacks in France actually preferred to be called "noir" and French whites call them "black" to other them.
That makes no sense, why don't they say Noir?That's crazy because I was just ranting in my own head about how I'm tired of hearing "african-american" and I'm not even from the US...
After watching that viral video from a Karen at central park calling the cops on a black man, I was so pissed when she shouted "an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN" on the phone.
That is just unbearable. How about "european american" ? Nah, it won't sound "too" derogatory for them. F* that.
And you will learn something today : in France, wp are afraid and I mean AFRAID of saying "Noir" (which means "black" in french). So do you know what they say ? They say "BLACK".
Yep. In a whole a** french sentence, they will say "BLACK" when talking about a black person. "Je connais un BLACK qui (...)" = "I know a NOIR who" imagine that lol.
It just feels wrong. Same when you hear "people of color" or "african american" in english instead of black.
This is just a way of taking our black power out of us.
I never got that with Brazilian portuguese,Preto is semi-offensive. It’s literally the color black.
Negro/a or Afrodescente is the correct term.
I am sure I heard that Trinidadians refer to black people as negroes.in Trinidad we say : merikans or africans
I never got that with Brazilian portuguese,
why is preto offensive but negro/a not?
Also does afrodescendente only apply to black people or also biracials and mixed like anyone of african descent ?
Wait, I thought many of the whites in Brazil were mixed with black. Like there are preto, pardo and blancos. But the "blancos" are like brazilian blancos who are considered "brown" in USA as they are like african grandparent with a few ethnic features or look white but really aren't, type white.Usually, in Spanish speaking countries their stats for the afrodescent population puts black and mixed/non mestizos together.
In some countries, the black population that is left are mixed people.
I know when Brazil said it has the largest population of African descent outside of Nigeria it included the black and mixed population because I looked at Census records. 80 mill was listed as Pardo and 20 mill was listed as preto to make the 100 mill figure.
I believe this is why Adriana Lima said she's Afro Brazilian. Because she's translating that phrase.
You can be of African descent and white. Neymar's son is an example of that. He isn't brown though.Wait, I thought many of the whites in Brazil were mixed with black. Like there are preto, pardo and blancos. But the "blancos" are like brazilian blancos who are considered "brown" in USA as they are like african grandparent with a few ethnic features or look white but really aren't, type white.
I'm American, but from learning the Korean language I've learned that in Korea we are called "Heugin" 흑인 which means "black person", but they also sometimes call African-Americans Apeurikagye migoogin" 아프리카계 미국인 (Americans from Africa) and Black Americans
They do have a "N word" for us too, "Kkamdoongi" 깜둥이 which means Blackie. It's a shame no matter where we go there's derogatory terms for us.
ETA: I've done some research on the term and it seems that unlike the N word, kkamdoongie is just an insult for dark skin and is not an insult based on race, but recently has taken to that meaning. Meaning, Koreans have called dark skinned Koreans and other groups of people this word too
In America, we are "African Americans" or "black."
What are we in Italy? Are we African Italians? Spain? GB? UAE?
Is the US the only country that labels us first based on our phenotype?
And you will learn something today : in France, wp are afraid and I mean AFRAID of saying "Noir" (which means "black" in french). So do you know what they say ? They say "BLACK".
Yep. In a whole a** french sentence, they will say "BLACK" when talking about a black person. "Je connais un BLACK qui (...)" = "I know a NOIR who" imagine that lol.
It just feels wrong. Same when you hear "people of color" or "african american" in english instead of black.
Jesse started that back in the 80s.The country, USA, didn't start the label AA. Americans who are black
started that moniker.
And what are biracials called?Black in Jamaica lol.
If you're a black Jamaican or black person, you're called black.
Semi-coloredAnd what are biracials called?
In Jamaica? You pulling my leg?Semi-colored
Mixed.And what are biracials called?
But do we have DNA test of these "white" people from Brazil and how many generations have they been there. I heard from a white person thaat no matter how white the brazilian might look, they aren't if they been there past 3 generations for the most part. Basically, most of these whites are like neymar's son.You can be of African descent and white. Neymar's son is an example of that. He isn't brown though.
But no, that's not necessarily true.
Gisele Bundchen isn't brown in the U.S. or else white America would have had a problem with her marrying their golden boy, Tom Brady. There's also no record of non Euro ancestry.
They have entire European descent communities, which allows them to have kids with only each other. Many countries have that.
ETA: There are several other examples besides Gisele.
Caroline Trentini
Raquel Zimmerman.
Cintia Dicker
So people saw Marley as mixed? Do you think this helped with his popularity over there?Mixed.
I've noticed that new-age revisionists will call them 'black' though.
Mostly it's ancestry tests of pardos.But do we have DNA test of these "white" people from Brazil and how many generations have they been there. I heard from a white person thaat no matter how white the brazilian might look, they aren't if they been there past 3 generations for the most part. Basically, most of these whites are like neymar's son.
I know there are white looking Brazilians, but my question is do we have their dna test?
It is also my understanding that white people who look white like the ones you showed, are like the minority.o Most of them are of the say, spicy white, ty lsa, variety. Is this the case?
People saw him as mixed for sure which is why Peter Tosh, the one who (by all accounts and no disrespect) was 'more traditionally talented', was made the understudy in certain situations. It was Chris Blackwell's decision to make Bob the undoubtable star and separate him from The Wailers, although both Bunny and Peter were excellent as well. What set Bob apart was his marketability due to his skin color. Blackwell boasted about being the reason they broke up...for years and that's how it was back then. "He was marketable". I argue it's still like that now. Shaggy isn't mixed, but again, fair skin. I'm not gonna knock Sean Paul as I think he's underrated at times, but him being multiracial has always benefitted him. I mean he was around for ages before he hit international successes but him becoming as visible as he was was definitely due to his image. There are people just as talented, if not more, than Sean that haven't had that success and that's that. Again, I love Bob and I love Sean but these are just facts.So people saw Marley as mixed? Do you think this helped with his popularity over there?