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Elijah was probably Shawn keeng black. Fard was probably mostly a Greece-Asia Minor mutt. Interesting that Elijah was more or less as black as Dumas and Pushkin, both of whom were tolerated in European and Russian high society. Maybe he could have passed if he had grown out and styled his hair strategically (if he wanted to pass). Was he bald by choice or by genetics?
 

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The only reason I questioned if he was black, is because I listened to his voice on a few tapes and his accent was different. I'm from New Orleans and my family looks like everyone so if you told me they were both black or other I'd believe it.
 

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This Netflix series has me thinking and I haven't even finished it yet!

One thing I've heard mentioned but never heard sources was the rumor that Elijah Muhammad was not black.

His mother is Mariah Hill and father is William Poole Sr. Anyone got pics or a source?

Also, why don't people talk about his wiveS? At least Tynetta didn't share that she was a "wife" until he died. Did Clara know about all these other wives and children in real time?

Elijah Muhammad was definitely a Black man, and so were his parents (who were former slaves). And as far as Wallace Fard Muhammad is concerned, Wallace Fard Muhammad was a half-Black, half-White man from Arabia (which was once part of East Africa). His father, Alphonso, was a man from Mecca and at that time Arabs were a dark skinned (jet black) people.

Alphonso, according to NOI theology, was a very wise man. He decided to make a son that would lift Black people in North America up (civilize them). However, his son would have to be able to "sneak in and out of America unharmed." Therefore, he had to have a near white complexion. The mother of such a child (for those reasons) had to be white. So Alphonso went into the hills and cavesides of Europe, and married a white woman with the unique name of Bhabhiji (pronounced Baby G). Alphonso's first effort to father a child resulted in a daughter. On the second occasion, it resulted in a son (Wallace Fard Muhammad).

The original Arabs were Black people, they didn't turn "White" until they migrated around the world conquering and mixing their genes with other races of people.

Which is why you have "White" Arabs in Lebanon and "Black" Arabs in Sudan, Africa.

Technically speaking most of these Arab people you see today aren't even Arab, they are of the White or Black race but since they practice an Arab culture, and speak Arabic from generations they are considered Arab culturally.

There's a book called "Master Fard Muhammad: Who Is He? Who Is He Not?" by Dr. Wesley Muhammad. It is available on Amazon and E-Bay. Very excellent book.

However, I would not advise anyone to use Google, or YouTube to find more information regarding Wallace Fard Muhammad. If you Google Wallace Fard Muhammad's name, every single search result is based on the lies J. Edgar Hoover told on Wallace Fard Muhammad. The results even show FAKE pictures of Wallace Fard Muhammad even though Elijah Muhammad REPEATEDLY told them that the pictures they were using (and are still using today) ain't the man he met. Those search results are bias and negative. The results only reveal negative stuff about Wallace Fard Muhammad and the stories contradict each other.

Note: I also grew up in the NOI (my parents are also lifelong members).
 

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yeah back in his day when the 1 drop rule was used and implemented to stop any person with 1% of black dna from obtaining power!

he was not black back then and isnt black now! like i said mgm are just mixed people nobody claims but black people.

and if race is a "social construct" you better NOT EVER IN YOUR LIFE COMPLAIN ABOUT RACISM!
I swear there is always 1 that has to go above and beyond to claim non-blackness smh

Racism is real but race as was written in the 1600s isn't scientific and in fact humans are way more diverse than what is mentioned. That is what people are talking about not that we don't face issues with our features. Ethnicities are real and Africans are the most diverse more so than Europe and Asians.
 

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IMO, this isn’t some big government conspiracy. A white Arab started telling Black folks that they were God’s chosen people in order to con them out of their money. Elijah got hip to this hustle and ran an even bigger con.

This is also what I believe happened. Despite how it all began, what sticks out to me most was that Malcolm ended up assassinated by the people he dedicated most of his life to, all started by jealousy. Shameful.
 

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Idk why this question has me cracking up. He look a bit Chinese sometimes

Old pic:
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He kinda look like the Khoe-San / Khoisan people from South Africa

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Unrelated, but Elijah Mohammed's skin looks amazing in the photo!
 

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So I worry LSA is about to get inconsistent again lol.

How black was Elijah Muhammad?:

Rachel Dolezal/Evelyn Lozada/LSA font Skallawagga black

or Shaun King black

or Tia and Tamera/Obama black

or Denzel Washington/Danny Glover black

or something else?!

LOL, I need to use this as a response when someone says so and so is black!
 

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please remind ourselves that colored included not only black people Asians Indians Italians Greeks and Jews were all considered colored people

That's not true!! A lot of people today are making this nonsense up. It's revisionism.

No. Only people of African descent could be "colored". No one else. Asians and everybody else in the south was considered white.

The Mississippi Chinese were classified as white during Jim Crow.
 

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Why are y’all calling Fard a fraud ? Even if he wasn’t black what has anyone else really done like him by shining light toward black people ? But keep hyping up people like Oprah or Lebron or Kobe or nipsey who can’t even walk in Fards shoes
 

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This thread is getting a little strange. Elijah was born in a small town in Georgia to share cropper parents in the late 1800's. His phenotype is that of an AA. There weren't Asians (other than some Native Americans) there at the time and certainly not any mixing with blacks. His almond eye shape is common among people of West African descent.
Thank you!
 

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LSA is officially fake news

Elijah was AA if you want receipts just look his name up on ancestry. I’m sure you can find information about his family.


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Smh too many non Black people on this board.
 

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LSA is officially fake news

Elijah was AA if you want receipts just look his name up on ancestry. I’m sure you can find information about his family.


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Smh too many non Black people on this board.

Any informed Black person who knows about AA history knows that Elijah Muhammad was from Georgia and migrated to Michigan during the First Great Migration. I shall go back to the first page and read! This will be an interesting read.
 

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Idk why this question has me cracking up. He look a bit Chinese sometimes

Old pic:
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I have a great, great aunt that sort of looked like this as well that was full AA!
 

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Here’s Elijah’s late brother Supreme Minister John Muhammad

Rev John Muhammad (1910-2005) - Find A Grave...

I never knew he had siblings and for as much as my brother talks about Elijah and the NOI, I wonder why he was never brought up. I’m ask him when I have the energy.

Just based off of this picture, I’m curious about what their parents looked like because Elijah and John are twins.
 

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I'm just seeing what came of this thread over a year later. SMH. Those high cheekbones and almond shaped eyes really threw a lot of ya'll off. Elijah Muhammad was probably less mixed than most of you. A dark brown skinned black man from Georgia with sharecropper parents and slaves for grandparents' race can only be questioned on LSA. Fonts talking bout "we don't look like this?". Ummm...brown skinned with almond eyes? Who doesn't look like that? Because lots of AAs look just like that. He's the blackest person being discussed in the thread next to Garvey tbh. Blacker than Malcolm, Farrakhan, and definitely Fard.
 

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Was he even black? or a white arab?

he was a metaphysical spirit astro gliding through a temporal and spatial existence. This was just one of his many stops.

he was “black” on earth to serve a purpose. On other earths he takes the forms for what is needed for his mission.
 

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he was a metaphysical spirit astro gliding through a temporal and spatial existence. This was just one of his many stops.

he was “black” on earth to serve a purpose. On other earths he takes the forms for what is needed for his mission.
Hotep mysticism is hilarious
 

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This Netflix series has me thinking and I haven't even finished it yet!

One thing I've heard mentioned but never heard sources was the rumor that Elijah Muhammad was not black.

His mother is Mariah Hill and father is William Poole Sr. Anyone got pics or a source?

Also, why don't people talk about his wiveS? At least Tynetta didn't share that she was a "wife" until he died. Did Clara know about all these other wives and children in real time?
Elijah was black but probably an MGM, wallace fard is more the mystery
 

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Elijah was black but probably an MGM, wallace fard is more the mystery
He was more than likely not even mgm. I doubt his parents practiced any particular dating practices, he more than likely just was lightskinned

a lot of people get called mgm aren’t even in the category.
 

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I always felt that The Nation of Islam suffered from colorism. It seemed like you had to be Light skinned or white passing to join.
 

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Elijah Muhammed was Black.

Fard Muhammed was probably Indian or Pakistani and came to America to spread the Ahmadiyyah sect of Islam.
 

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