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When Did Empire Fall Off For You?

Raspberry Beret

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The writers made a lot of key errors and wasted opportunities with Empire especially from season 2 and onward.

-Cookie in the gorilla suit (just tasteless)

-The Latino factor: The large influx of (non-black) Latino characters in season 2 annoyed me. First, Spanish/Latino shows rarely (if ever) give black Latinos or black characters a chance to shine on their platforms. So for Empire, a largely successful predominately black show to give non-black Latinos a huge platform irked me to no end. Empire wanted to reach a wider audience, by including more Latinos, but instead drove audiences away.

If the show wanted to showcase Latinos, they should have brought Afro-Latino characters like Andre Royo/Thirsty. Instead of having a Latina girl group, TPTB should have made a Destiny's child/June's Diary/Danity Kane type black girl group. The Laura character should've been played by a black songtress.

-The downfall of Anika: Once her character broke up with Luscious, TPTB didn't know what to do with her character. It's like they wanted to keep her tied to Empire/Lyons but were grasping for straws. I had a hard time buying that bougie debutante Anika would fall for and act thirsty over Hakeem. TPTB should have had her trying to f*ck Andre instead and as a result having beef with Rhonda.

-The miscast of Chris Rock: Chris was terribly miscast as Frank Gathers. He was not believable in the least as some dangerous cannibalistic gangster/drug lord.

-The "will or won't they" trope got tiresome with Luscious/ Cookie and Hakeem/Tiana as seasons progressed. Hakeem and Tiana's marriage and pregnancy would've been a fine time to show Hakeem's maturity instead TPTB broke them up again. Cookie going back and forth with Luscious also got tiring last season.
 

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Season 1 - Amazing
Season 1 soundtrack - Amazing

I fell of after season 2. I still watch it for the sake of it tho.

They went all in at the start, kept everyone on the edge of their seats. They couldn't keep up that momentum. I think it was too much too soon and it turned soap opera ish.
 

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Season 2. I lost hope when Anika found out she was knocked up by Hakeem. I was always disappointed with how they did her character smh.

She had one of the best lines on the show.

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I’m more disappointed about Hakeem having no growth. I stop watching consistently after Season 2 but have still watch on & off to see what’s going on. Haven’t watch not one episode this season.
 

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Season 1, when Gabby was wearing an ugly blond wig every episode and I found out this is a Lee Daniels production. Daniels is evil with low self esteem and a deep resentment/issues with black women. It really shows in his storylines and character development.

*had no idea Taraji had to wear an ape suit.... you see what I mean... wtf...!
Not to mention how over sexualized the character of Hakeem is. That breakfast club interview with Lee & Yazz was uncomfortable af. I’m starting to think Lee always has Hakeem shirtless for his pleasure smh
 

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I stopped watching it after the Gorilla scene. From what I understand it got worse and worse.
 

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