Why are women 25-32 mostly the one's on the "I'm celibate" wave.

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Making the good guy pay for their poor choices in men. They are also oblivious to their diminishing value, so using celibacy as a bargaining chip will not get the desired outcome (relationship).
Good guys regularly note a woman's diminishing value? Since her value is supposedly diminished, she should have sex within a time-frame that suits a person that is in a position to quantify her value?
 
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I made the decision to be celibate as a virgin in highschool. It didn't take a bunch of shitty men to make me want to wait until marriage. I'm in my early 20s now. Honestly, dating is so much easier when you know who just wants you for your body.
 
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Those teenage hormones aren't ruling you anymore, and you start to realize that sex can have a purpose other than pleasure.

Tons of people become sexually active in their teens... so by the mid-to-late twenties, that's years of nearly meaningless sex. You start to realize that high school ish was puppy love, and then even in your early twenties, the maturity levels just aren't really there yet, and most of the sex being had is just for pleasure - nothing else.

Intimacy becomes more important and that's harder to find, so pumping the brakes on sex is best until you find someone that can meet your needs. Hell that the vast majority of men don't know or care about pleasing a women. Celibacy becomes a much easier choice when you consider the alternatives.
 
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This only works if when they choose to break their celebacy, they don't make the new man pay for the old man's price
If the new man requires sex for a fulfilling relationship sooner than she is comfortable, he should feel comfortable expressing that or walking away. Men act like they have to do the dance when it's just that they can't pull women/situations in the way they'd like. So, they settle and seethe.
 
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If the new man requires sex for a fulfilling relationship sooner than she is comfortable, he should feel comfortable expressing that or walking away. Men act like they have to do the dance when it's just that they can't pull women/situations in the way they'd like. So, they settle and seethe.

That's fair
 
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No, you love having sex with women. That is not the same thing as loving a woman, and seeing her inherent dignity. You and other male fonts want to control women. All these posts questioning women's behaviour is indicative of that.
Yeah, I find they are often at a loss for words when you ask them what they love or like about women besides their bodies, cooking, or cleaning.
 
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25-32 are usually on that "my next relationship is my last" , "the next guy I sleep with has to be my man" wave.
OP, there's nothing wrong with recognizing that a lot of men aren't worth your energy and increasing your standards. In fact, it's great more women are doing this because that'll help the meet the right man that they want.

Also, when you've already made the decision to abstain from sex until you're in a serious relationship, it helps not cloud your judgement when you're on dates.
 
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Also let me just say, at 26 I am seeing a lot of black women who are either virgins, or celibate. Being a virgin no longer has that icky ideology that it once had years ago.
Which is how I know the sexual exploitation of black women is 100% media driven.
 
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why do ya'll keep humouring these women haters? OP doesn't care about your answers he just wants to find another way to put down women.
It's good to know what the thought process is. Plenty men feel the same way as him but won't vocalize it outside of their group chat. I figure let them get loose as long as they stay respectful - it's the only way to get to the truth.
 
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Good guys regularly note a woman's diminishing value? Since her value is supposedly diminished, she should have sex within a time-frame that suits a person that is in a position to quantify her value?

Sex should come up organically. If you are already establishing rules, you are revealing that you are not really interested in the guy and that you carry emotional baggage.
 
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Sex should come up organically. If you are already establishing rules, you are revealing that you are not really interested in the guy and that you carry emotional baggage.
She's letting you know up front so you can decide if you want to waste/spend (depending on perspective) your time and effort. This should make it even more clear that it is a personal choice rather than a bargaining chip or something being inflicted upon a "good guy". If I were single, I wouldn't date men with children and would say it up front. We don't need the awkwardness later if we can avoid it.
 
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So many reasons that have been stated. Most men are mentally exhausting, selfish in bed, misogynistic, colourist, have the emotional intelligence of a shoe and are about as interesting as one. I’m not celibate but I can’t see myself dating a man in the near future. I’m bi so I’ll just date women instead. Besides, romantic and sexual relationships aren’t necessary to live. Women should not have to put up with male bs. Know your worth and live by it.
 
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Sex should come up organically. If you are already establishing rules, you are revealing that you are not really interested in the guy and that you carry emotional baggage.
That's not true. In today's society guys literally consider having sex after talking for two weeks "waiting a long time", that's literally not enough time for me (can't speak for other women). It has nothing to do with emotional baggage.

*I don't really have a dog in this fight, I'm under 25
 
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They have racked up body counts with absolutely nothing to show for it. Now some sucka must pay the piper to get the goods.
And this makes you think they should continue to "rack" them up? Because they have already blown past what you see is a respectable body count?

What do you have to show from your body count? Assuming their past was problematic, why should they not take a better approach to life/sex as they grow?
 
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Probably because they've had sex and been underwhelmed with the experiences and the men so they want to stop. Who cares though. It's their choice ultimately.
Yes! Yes and Yes! I was just thinking about this the other day. Most of the sex that I've had in life was not that great. The experiences that were enjoyable took time and effort to get there. Most men can have an orgasm so easily. Why the hell continue having sex that isn't benefiting me? I'll wait for a partner that really cares about my satisfaction.
 
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They have racked up body counts with absolutely nothing to show for it. Now some sucka must pay the piper to get the goods.
I mean yeah...a lot of sex is whack as hell. Why keep doing it? Men pulling out those porno moves, lol. Won't listen to any instructions. Get offended when you tell them what they really like. So yeah, racking up a body count with no orgasm in sight.
 
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She's letting you know up front so you can decide if you want to waste/spend (depending on perspective) your time and effort. This should make it even more clear that it is a personal choice rather than a bargaining chip or something being inflicted upon a "good guy". If I were single, I wouldn't date men with children and would say it up front. We don't need the awkwardness later if we can avoid it.

That's not true. In today's society guys literally consider having sex after talking for two weeks "waiting a long time", that's literally not enough time for me (can't speak for other women). It has nothing to do with emotional baggage.

*I don't really have a dog in this fight, I'm under 25

Who goes from having sex regularly to now celibacy? Clearly you have some kind of baggage, and you think being celibate will fix that. It’s usually women who don’t trust themselves to make the right decisions after a series of bad ones. Maybe arranged marriage should be made into law, it would benefit women.
 
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OP, there's nothing wrong with recognizing that a lot of men aren't worth your energy and increasing your standards. In fact, it's great more women are doing this because that'll help the meet the right man that they want.

Also, when you've already made the decision to abstain from sex until you're in a serious relationship, it helps not cloud your judgement when you're on dates.

He can't see it that way. He thinks he supposed to have access to all the walls he wants.

Who goes from having sex regularly to now celibacy? Clearly you have some kind of baggage, and you think being celibate will fix that. It’s usually women who don’t trust themselves to make the right decisions after a series of bad ones. Maybe arranged marriage should be made into law, it would benefit women.

Why do you care, though? Why do you think what YOU understand has anything to do with a decision a woman has made about what to do with HER body?
 
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Women under 25 usually just want to have fun and the one's over 32 usually just want some "adult time" away from the kids.


25-32 are usually on that "my next relationship is my last" , "the next guy I sleep with has to be my man" wave.



Why is that?



My perception is that "celibacy" follows an extended period of promiscuous sex and bad judgement
Why are men so concerned what women are doing or (not doing) with their vaginas?
 
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I mean yeah...a lot of sex is whack as hell. Why keep doing it? Men pulling out those porno moves, lol. Won't listen to any instructions. Get offended when you tell them what they really like. So yeah, racking up a body count with no orgasm in sight.

Very good point. I hope all the women in this thread are listening to you!!!

And it's a guarantee that a man who diminishes what women choose to do with their own bodies is trash in bed. It wouldn't occur to them to respect female desire. Men who don't like women can't screw worth a damn.
 

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