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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?
 

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They don’t care. In their day, wigs were obviously wigs. Besides, they don’t have the patience to get their wigs laid. They want something they can slap on and snatch off when them hot flashes hit
 

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I think some people like for their "enhancements" to have a fake look to it -- be it hair, teeth, whatever.

A lot of women from that generation seem to like their wigs to look like wigs. It seems to cross racial divides. Marie Osmond, for example. There's probably some kind of appeal that those of us who are younger don't get -- some kind of glamour to them that is within the same realm as a red lip.
 

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Dont be coming for all of our aunties like that..lmao. I've wondered it too and from what I see they like those wigs because those are the ones that they are used to and they think they only look good in those kind of wigs. You got to think..they came up wearing those kind of wigs cause that's all they know how to style and they think the newer wigs look too unlike them , and too flashy...I swear I've seen it with my own eyes lol.
 

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perhaps they like styles that were popular during their time or styles they saw on older ladies back then.

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i'm guessing this is a feathered look she prefers?

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?
They are like...
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I honestly think I’d run away screaming if I ever saw my gammy or her friends in one of those *melted lace, seamless stocking cap method* type wigs

Like :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Let them stick to their Vivica A. Fox & BSS units that they’re used to :LOL:
 

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My mom has money but she will not spend it on a wig. You’re not getting more than $40 for a wig. Also she wants to alternate between her wigs and they are all gonna cost $40 each. The new one is the “good wig”. The others are to run to the store.

My mom would pass out if I told her how much I spend annually on hair.
 

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?
Why are there threads made attacking Black women every fcking day?

if you have a problem or question about somebody's hair or wig you need to ask that person directly because we don't have the f****** answers.

And how can you be sure that these women are even wearing wigs? Are you with them when they get dressed in the mornings?

And if they do wear wigs how do you know it's not because they have a medical problem? Like they're going through chemotherapy or radiation treatment?
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A flip to this is me..I was a teen in the 90s and none of the wigs back then looked good so as a young person you would not be caught dead wearing one. only celebrities had decent wigs and weaves. So until this day I fee a certain way about wearing wigs I tried one once ..I personally just cant do it ..it just feel like everybody looking at it or something lol idk maybe it's just me. It's just a stigma I have about wigs ..unless of course you need to wear one
 

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A thread was just made yesterday about black women staying on code and how we need to quit questioning black women hair choices and here we go again.
90% of these people are not any kind of Black person let alone a Black woman.

When a person makes a thread like this they're making it pretty obvious who and what the f*** they stand for. We just need a Black woman hate megathread so that they can post to their hearts content about all the s*** they hate about Black women, instead of making a new thread every f****** day
 
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A flip to this is me..I was a teen in the 90s and none of the wigs back then looked good so as a young person you would not be caught dead wearing one. only celebrities had decent wigs and weaves. So until this day I fee a certain way about wearing wigs I tried one once ..I personally just cant do it ..it just feel like everybody looking at it or something lol idk maybe it's just me. It's just a stigma I have about wigs ..unless of course you need to wear one. I've always just proffered a sew in
 

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?
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Why the fck do you assume Maxine Waters is wearing a wig????

She clearly has always had a head full of thick hair.

If you don't know anything about Black women, please don't assume.
 

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?


Leave aunty nem alone!! :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

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Same reason older yt women do.

I think some people like for their "enhancements" to have a fake look to it -- be it hair, teeth, whatever.

A lot of women from that generation seem to like their wigs to look like wigs. It seems to cross racial divides. Marie Osmond, for example. There's probably some kind of appeal that those of us who are younger don't get -- some kind of glamour to them that is within the same realm as a red lip.
I do agree it is not just older black women. The stereotype of the blue haired white woman is true too.
 

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lol that's my grandma.. But, my GMA can care less. Most elders REFUSE to send mortgages payments on wigs/lace fronts/weaves.

Honestly, I've seen more elder with proper wigs/hair than younger girls... with their exaggerated/unnecessary baby hairs..
 
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Here is the thing, a lot of women of all races hair starts thinning in their 40s due to hormonal changes. So they feel wigs are the way to go.

Secondly, most people who wear wigs aren't trying to act like it is their own hair. No one thinks that. Even non-black people now know a lot of them wear extensions. Yes it is closer to their hair type but still a wig or extension is still what it is.

Lastly and this is the thing that most women ask themselves... DO I LOOK CUTE? Yes it might not be real but do I look cute and for the most part they do. Which is why they wear them.

I also agree it would be weird for women in their late 50s and 60s walking around with baby hair wigs on.
 

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Although there are many realistic looking wigs, so many older black women get very fake looking ones. Why is that. This isn't shade. But when I see Gayle King and Maxine Waters with fake looking wigs I cringe.

Do they not care if it looks fake or do they feel like it looks real?
...for the same reasons why younger black women do? they don't care that it looks like a wig because...wigs are gonna look like wigs MOST of the time?????
(i hope you're not under the impression that these stupid lace fronts these girls wear actually look realistic. because if you're one of those women who think that giveaway hair part straight down the middle of your head with the lace visible at the forehead looks convincing...then i hate to shatter your delusions, but IRL NONE of these lace fronts look like they could actually be these womens' real hair. I'm so tired of lace fronts i want ALLLLLLLLL them fake ass looking motherfuckas to BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!)

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Y’all be melting the lace and getting HD lace only for it to still look fake. Y’all just got glue on your forehead and they don’t
 

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