Quantcast

Will rock/punk/alternative ever make a comeback?

siren_

Team Owner
Joined
Oct 16, 2017
Messages
6,342
Reaction score
Reactions
26,728 840 1,063
31,057
Alleybux
1,001
I find it deeply upsetting that rock failed to make a mainstream comeback during the Trump era. You'd think that would have lit a fire under everyone's asses.
 

RickiSpanish

General Manager
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
3,592
Reaction score
Reactions
40,746 650 254
46,706
Alleybux
37,843
I don't think rock is gonna ever be mainstream again. It sucks now, I am a die hard rock fan. Everyone is trying to be pop or mix with hip hop these days and unlike the 90s they're doing a sh!tty job. Korn was probably the last rock supergroup to go mainstream. Just when I think someone is gonna come resurrect the genre they fall off hard (The Strokes, Kings of Leon, Greta Van Fleet). I was really rooting for Greta Van Fleet (they're from my state) but they got huge for a second then poof.
 

theprettymiss

“Beacon of Light”
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
40,820
Reaction score
Reactions
255,872 10,529 820
281,144
Alleybux
1,067,462
Man...Alternative def reminds me of my early years of highschool.

I LOVED Fall Out Boy, Green Day, Blink 182 ect

Alot of my white girl friends stanned Good Charlotte :joy:

Mind you this was 2005/2006 so alot of Alternative music was moving into being pop/hiphop leaning.

Shoot sometimes I’ll randomly listen to alternative music...its truly a great genre.

I think metal/rock/alternative hype kindve died down once MTV switched lanes.
 

RickiSpanish

General Manager
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
3,592
Reaction score
Reactions
40,746 650 254
46,706
Alleybux
37,843
So happy to see other Hole fans. :heart:
"Violet" was always my favorite song.


Lol I loved Hole and Courtney, I spent my youth on the kittyradio message boards. Those were good times.

I miss the 90s and the whole Riot Grrl movement, I miss smart women wrote their own music, played their own instruments, and didn't need to be sexy for men. I don't think there will ever be another Alanis Morissette, they're trying with Billie Ellish (who I like) but shes no where near as talented.
 

lilham

Team Owner
Joined
May 13, 2016
Messages
7,989
Reaction score
Reactions
73,157 3,660 428
75,518
Alleybux
544,430
Lol I loved Hole and Courtney, I spent my youth on the kittyradio message boards. Those were good times.

I miss the 90s and the whole Riot Grrl movement, I miss smart women wrote their own music, played their own instruments, and didn't need to be sexy for men. I don't think there will ever be another Alanis Morissette, they're trying with Billie Ellish (who I like) but shes no where near as talented.
I just read the memoirs from Patty Schemel (drummer from Hole), and Carrie Brownstein (Sleater Kinney). I looove Alanis. Billie kinda bored me; I really tried.

This is my favorite SK:
 

DivaLasVegas82

Georgia Peach
Joined
Sep 4, 2012
Messages
66,928
Reaction score
Reactions
674,904 21,167 21,874
693,492
Alleybux
671,256
Sadly, no. People aren't learning to play instruments and write music from scratch the way they once were. Most music today is all about beats and production.
 

Ditmars

General Manager
BANNED
Joined
Aug 27, 2020
Messages
4,654
Reaction score
Reactions
11,332 1,180 2,988
10,206
Alleybux
2,093
I always found Good Charlotte quite appealing. Perhaps because some of the group members seemed cute to me. It's funny how they peaked during the transition between Nu Metal to emo rock/punk.
 

Drown_you

CheddaChee$e
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
1,947
Reaction score
Reactions
15,733 436 59
17,756
Alleybux
79,229
Is Warped Tour, Bamboozle, and Lolapalozza all finished? I think the end of those huge festivals kinda helped with the downfall of rock
 

K_Diddy

Team Owner
Joined
Jul 5, 2014
Messages
11,395
Reaction score
Reactions
66,860 1,664 69
85,558
Alleybux
72,862
Lol I loved Hole and Courtney, I spent my youth on the kittyradio message boards. Those were good times.

I miss the 90s and the whole Riot Grrl movement, I miss smart women wrote their own music, played their own instruments, and didn't need to be sexy for men. I don't think there will ever be another Alanis Morissette, they're trying with Billie Ellish (who I like) but shes no where near as talented.
I was BIG into Riot Grrrl in the late 90s/early 2000. Bikini Kill, Bratmobile, Sleater Kinney, Excuse 17, Huggy Bear. I could go on...
 

K_Diddy

Team Owner
Joined
Jul 5, 2014
Messages
11,395
Reaction score
Reactions
66,860 1,664 69
85,558
Alleybux
72,862
I just read the memoirs from Patty Schemel (drummer from Hole), and Carrie Brownstein (Sleater Kinney). I looove Alanis. Billie kinda bored me; I really tried.

This is my favorite SK:

Carrie's book was pretty good. I still need to read Debbie Harry's and Kim Gordon's autobiography.
 

RickiSpanish

General Manager
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
3,592
Reaction score
Reactions
40,746 650 254
46,706
Alleybux
37,843
Carrie's book was pretty good. I still need to read Debbie Harry's and Kim Gordon's autobiography.

Kim Gordon's autobiography is amazing, if you didn't already you'll hate Thurston. I also suggest Viv Albertine's autobiography called Clothes, Clothes, Clothes. Music, Music, Music. Boys, Boys, Boys. I didn't know much about The Slits but her book is amazing although it's about the 70s punk scene.
 

Choseyylover

Choosey Lover
Joined
Feb 12, 2012
Messages
60,902
Reaction score
Reactions
514,496 14,948 3,506
572,501
Alleybux
28,505
If yes, how soon do you think it's gonna happen?

Man, this is why I miss so bad my high school and early college years. I was soo into Nu Metal back in the very late 90s and early 2000s. Emo rock was really my sh!t during 2004-2007 as well. Too bad after 2008 it started to decay badly.

I think Kings of Leon was the closest last thing we had when it comes to alternative/rock and by that time they weren't that many mainstream rock bands left. I miss rock.

Yeah, I didn't notice how dead it was until I realized I am only listening to old rock music. I fµck!ng love Rock. So I would love for it to start being a thing again but everybody wants to sound like drake now LOL.

Kings of leon and don't forgot imagine dragons!

But I love Incubus, Bon Jovi, Sound garen, foo fighters, the killers, papa roach, pearl jam, temple of the dog, GNR, SLASH- I think GNR is actually making some new music ya'll. Slash did say he had been working with the rest of the members via zoom. So maybe they can restore it. If not, I know I can count on Slash to make an album of his own and to collab if not. He is always making music, him and tom morello just came out with a song actually
 

K_Diddy

Team Owner
Joined
Jul 5, 2014
Messages
11,395
Reaction score
Reactions
66,860 1,664 69
85,558
Alleybux
72,862
Kim Gordon's autobiography is amazing, if you didn't already you'll hate Thurston. I also suggest Viv Albertine's autobiography called Clothes, Clothes, Clothes. Music, Music, Music. Boys, Boys, Boys. I didn't know much about The Slits but her book is amazing although it's about the 70s punk scene.
Thanks! And yes, I already hated Thurston. And to think I uses to have a crush on that Shaggy from Scooby-Doo looking fool when I was a teenager
 

2020username

General Manager
Joined
Jul 11, 2020
Messages
3,386
Reaction score
Reactions
27,216 54 18
33,631
Alleybux
370
Always been a fan, I absolutely LOVE Korn(Jonathan Davis is forever my man lol), nu metal, grunge, 90s alternative, goth... As far as hitting the mainstream? Eh, it could happen, but I don't think at the same level as it did back then. Best believe the bands are still around making noise, although it may not reflect on the charts. I've been listening to Spiritbox, they're a new favorite of mine.

Lol I still think Jonathan Davis is a cutie!
 

2020username

General Manager
Joined
Jul 11, 2020
Messages
3,386
Reaction score
Reactions
27,216 54 18
33,631
Alleybux
370
I see bits of it coming back but only in the “emo” “scene” way....I lived through that era and much preferred 90s grunge and alternative which was a little before my time but to me, bands like Nirvana, Hole, Smashing Pumpkins, etc stood the test of time better than the 00s emo.

Same, no offence to the emo fans here but I just never got into emo - I don't know what it is but it just never meshed with me. Especially the "yelpy" hyperactive vocals.

Whereas pretty much 95% of any grunge or "desert rock" style music (QOTSA / Kyuss etc.) I will enjoy and vibe with. Those distinctive guitar tones and vocals just activate something in my brain.
 

2020username

General Manager
Joined
Jul 11, 2020
Messages
3,386
Reaction score
Reactions
27,216 54 18
33,631
Alleybux
370
Courtney Love has done a lot of crazy sh!t and had drug issues so people don’t like or respect her (along with the whole Killed Kurt thing that I just don’t believe), but she is a very good songwriter and a TRUE rockstar. Honestly I think the 90s is when white women made the best music, vs their corniness in other decades the whole smart angry white chick thing worked really well. Courtney, Shirley Manson from Garbage and Fiona Apple are the best examples of this

Skin from Skunk Anansie and PJ Harvey were also good 90s female rock artists. And does anyone remember Kittie? Lol
 

Everclear

MVP
Joined
Aug 3, 2020
Messages
920
Reaction score
Reactions
3,398 32 13
4,226
Alleybux
32,694
It's hard to imagine it coming back into the mainstream. Occasionally a rock song does well on the charts, but it's usually more like pop-infused alternative rock than pure rock.

I just want trap music to go away forever, so I'll take whatever can replace it.
 
Joined
Sep 20, 2019
Messages
1,476
Reaction score
Reactions
11,407 441 99
11,791
Alleybux
63,500
Yeah, I didn't notice how dead it was until I realized I am only listening to old rock music. I fµck!ng love Rock. So I would love for it to start being a thing again but everybody wants to sound like drake now LOL.

Kings of leon and don't forgot imagine dragons!

But I love Incubus, Bon Jovi, Sound garen, foo fighters, the killers, papa roach, pearl jam, temple of the dog, GNR, SLASH- I think GNR is actually making some new music ya'll. Slash did say he had been working with the rest of the members via zoom. So maybe they can restore it. If not, I know I can count on Slash to make an album of his own and to collab if not. He is always making music, him and tom morello just came out with a song actually

I love Soundgarden!! The Melvins, Mother love bone, Dinosaur Jr, My Bloody Valentine, temple of the dog, Foo fighters, Pearl Jam. This is good stuff omg!! :cry:

Guns n' roses and Black Sabbath are my favorite heavy metal bands. Can't wait for that new GNR stuff!!

I also want rock to be a thing again.... Real rock not some basic ass guitar riff over a rinsed trap beat
 
Joined
Sep 20, 2019
Messages
1,476
Reaction score
Reactions
11,407 441 99
11,791
Alleybux
63,500
Occasionally a rock song does well on the charts, but it's always more like pop-infused alternate rock than pure rock.

Thank you!! Then I have friends talking about omg I love rock music and I ask them which bands they think are the greatest then I'm hit with: The Wombats, Circa Waves, Maroon 5, The 1975, Twenty One Pilots. What the heck!

And I'd be there like look, I love these bands too, but I thought we'd talk about some serious things here.
 
Last edited:

Kangaroo Puzzy

Kang Lasso
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
5,320
Reaction score
Reactions
10,455 244 37
11,524
Alleybux
3,976
I miss this era of music so much! Elementary (grunge and post punk, alt rock and early emo), junior high (nu metal and metal, indie), and high school (scene, post hardcore, emo) were fantastic. Even a few years post till about 2011 were amazing.
 

RickiSpanish

General Manager
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
3,592
Reaction score
Reactions
40,746 650 254
46,706
Alleybux
37,843
Thanks! And yes, I already hated Thurston. And to think I uses to have a crush on that Shaggy from Scooby-Doo looking fool when I was a teenager

Lmao, I think I was the only fan who didn't crush on him. My rock crushes were Dave Navarro and Anthony Kiedis. After reading Viv's book I got into The Slits, they were amazingly influential and never got credit. Perry Farrell basically stole Ari Up's entire swag (I mean Ari was problematic but she was also extremely innovative), women in rock never get their due.

Skin from Skunk Anansie and PJ Harvey were also good 90s female rock artists. And does anyone remember Kittie? Lol

I am a gigantic PJ Harvey fan, she's the last artist on my bucket list. Talk about a woman who never gets credit, PJ is amazingly talented. I also loved Skin and Skunk Anansie, I liked Kitty when they first came out and we all thought Fallon was black, she quickly told us she wasn't.

The last female fronted band i was excited for was Straight Line Stitch. They had a black female vocalist who coud sing and scream. Saw them at The Machine Shop and they were great but you could tell she had really bad stage fright. Their first (and I think only album) is still in my rotation.



God this thread makes me miss the 90s even more than usual. I really miss the mid 90s, that's my favorite era for Rock.
 

starspace

enjoy the silence
Joined
Oct 19, 2018
Messages
531
Reaction score
Reactions
5,132 229 76
5,477
Alleybux
43,639
I think there will be shortlived trends of rock music coming back in the charts, but probably not much more than that sadly. Hip hop and trap has been dominating for quite a long time now. 2000s emo and pop punk has kinda been making a comeback, but it's mostly modernised by rappers with more overproduced beats to fit the mainstream.

I miss 90s and 2000s rock too. Whether it was on the pop or indie side, it was a great time because that's when the charts were more diverse and there was more room for all kinds of genres.

White Stripes, Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire, The Strokes, MCR, Fall Out Boy, Interpol, Green Day, Modest Mouse, The Killers etc etc :love: So nostalgic!! I still heavily play their music all the time.

Luckily there's still plenty of rock being made today, it's just underground. I've been loving the psychedelic and garagey sound a lot of modern bands have now





 

Ditmars

General Manager
BANNED
Joined
Aug 27, 2020
Messages
4,654
Reaction score
Reactions
11,332 1,180 2,988
10,206
Alleybux
2,093
I miss this era of music so much! Elementary (grunge and post punk, alt rock and early emo), junior high (nu metal and metal, indie), and high school (scene, post hardcore, emo) were fantastic. Even a few years post till about 2011 were amazing.

Nu Metal's peak was 1999-2000. Emo rock's 2005-2007.

Can you post some example of metal indie, post hardcore and scence?

When I think of punk from the very late 90s and the first few years of the 2000s (2000-2002) Blink 182 and Sum 41 is what first come to my mind. Blink 182 was huge back then and perhaps the most important band along with Korn and Limp Bizkit. As a matter of fact Korn's peak would be 1998-2000. Limp Bizkit's 1999-2000 and Blink 182's 2001-2002. That's how I always saw it.
 
Last edited:

CodenameNo5

General Manager
Joined
Aug 1, 2016
Messages
3,938
Reaction score
Reactions
40,095 4,891 1,302
45,970
Alleybux
112,843
It's not like it's stopped existing. There are great rock, metal and punk albums being released every year. Listen to the rock stations. It being mainstream like it was in the early 2000s and the decades prior won't increase its quality. If anything, it'll diminish it.
 

talking2much

Team Owner
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
34,659
Reaction score
Reactions
227,895 5,300 768
272,078
Alleybux
352,990
I love nu metal. Deftones is my favorite band. But I don’t think rock is ever gonna be mainstream again unless it’s pop rock with more pop influences than rock. I could see Billie Eilish doing a “rock” album and it being mainstream or even someone like post Malone
They're one of mine too, Ohms, their new release has some pretty killer tracks...
 

talking2much

Team Owner
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
34,659
Reaction score
Reactions
227,895 5,300 768
272,078
Alleybux
352,990
For some of us it never went away since the really good stuff was never mainstream anyways. I listen to a ton of old stuff but also keep up on stuff by some faves like Godflesh, QOTSA, Deftones, Death Grips, Jesu, Neurosis, Sleigh Bells, and others.
 

fckthewrld4

Munch
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
3,374
Reaction score
Reactions
19,316 652 305
20,774
Alleybux
34,746
Hopefully.. The newest grunge/alternative artist i can think of that i actually enjoy is zillakami.. Hes more trap metal, hes has some good music
 

Baby Ruthless

General Manager
Joined
Sep 24, 2011
Messages
1,705
Reaction score
Reactions
11,726 476 249
12,991
Alleybux
16,114
The Foo Fighters made a comeback and kinda made rock a little mainstream only for a moment in time I think in 2012. That’s the last time I remember rock making a comeback.
 

talking2much

Team Owner
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
34,659
Reaction score
Reactions
227,895 5,300 768
272,078
Alleybux
352,990
I looove death grips! But can we say they're rock lol?? I really really love their music, but everybody just says they're trash lol

I think they're just experimental :)
Alt/hip hop? I saw them opening for Ministry (another favorite) they killed. I like bands who people can't get and don't fit into a category. People who don't like them probably are into sh!tty music so, you know.:whistle:
 

Swagger03

MVP
Joined
Nov 14, 2020
Messages
587
Reaction score
Reactions
2,117 66 125
1,981
Alleybux
4,683,539
If yes, how soon do you think it's gonna happen?

Man, this is why I miss so bad my high school and early college years. I was soo into Nu Metal back in the very late 90s and early 2000s. Emo rock was really my sh!t during 2004-2007 as well. Too bad after 2008 it started to decay badly.

I think Kings of Leon was the closest last thing we had when it comes to alternative/rock and by that time they weren't that many mainstream rock bands left. I miss rock.

Rock was always here it's just going through that faze where not much songs from that genre are charting. I think Pop music went through that faze in the early 2000s, where R&B and Rock were dominating. However, I don't think alternative is coming back as soon as some would like to think, but other subgenres in rock might.
 

News Alley

Ask LSA

The Lounge

General Alley

Top Bottom