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perhaps it’s the men YOU’RE choosing. i haven’t had a grown man ever pressure me to send nudes. simply saying no is also an option
It's not the men "I'm choosing," because I don't make the decision to choose them in the first place since I'm not single. These are regular Gen Z males who across the board have this entitled attitude. Thanks for proving to me yet again you types give fuckall about women with your sociopathy and narcissism.
 

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It's not the men "I'm choosing," because I don't make the decision to choose them in the first place since I'm not single. These are regular Gen Z males who across the board have this entitled attitude. Thanks for proving to me yet again you types give fuckall about women with your sociopathy and narcissism.
gen z.....so teenage boys and people under 25 lol. of course they are going to act like that they’re little ass boys. simply tell them NO i don’t want to send you that
 

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sorry that that’s your experience however most grown adult men are not asking for nudes and even if they do simply say no is it that hard?
Yes, I think most women say no or ignore them or they've come up with the idea to simply charge them. I'm not knocking any of those choices.

And most adult men do ask for nudes. I stand by that
 

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The girls who are making like 20k a month and up with OF have excellent sales skills.... It's all sales; not just money from the subscription price; you can sell it at $5 a month and make over 10k from sales...

Selling custom content, skype shows etc.... learning how to hustle.... making money from PPV's and just to chat as you can charge $3-$5 (seems to be the average) just to send a reply to someone who is messaging you....

Doesn't have to be nude either.. There are dommes and mistresses who specialize in findom, or humiliating men or mind fµck!ng etc... that make bank with tributes/tips.

There is marketing involved... some girls market on Reddit, Tumblr...... knowing how to package things to get the most sales... package deals together... like buy these two and get this bonus etc... cross marketing; girls will do "shout out for shout outs"

I know of of a few models who get so many messages from customers on sites like OF (they have HUGE followings) that they have had to hire staff to act as them, to chat with the guys to upsell them.... basically push videos etc for the highest amount that they can get so no set prices.... They get so overwhelmed in the OF DM's with hundres of inquiries every day that it was more productive to hire people to chat/sell on their behalf while they focused more on creating content.

Then it's a matter of training those people if you have a SOP on how to respond to different type of inquiries to get the most money...

Exactly the ones making bank are charging for you to even be their Instagram friend. Some charging for Skype dinners and conversation. The ones really making bank really hustle. There was one chick I knew doing it and making bank and I was damn girl you are so good at what you do. These men want to feel special and like a valued customer. Personal pics and messages. The smart chicks charge for everything they can
 

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those are your goals though....not everyone is going to work in an office or a corporate job and that’s not the only way to make a livinng
I was using it as an example to show that people need long term goals. But your post shows how shortsighted people are these days.
 

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Exactly the ones making bank are charging for you to even be their Instagram friend. Some charging for Skype dinners and conversation. The ones really making bank really hustle. There was one chick I knew doing it and making bank and I was damn girl you are so good at what you do. These men want to feel special and like a valued customer. Personal pics and messages. The smart chicks charge for everything they can

A lot of cam girls on MFC weren't just selling Skype dinners.. they would hold raffles where members needed to tip a certain amount to get a ticket... and at the end of the month hold a drawing where they would draw a winner... They treated it as such a rare thing that you could not even tip or buy it... only the winner could get it... so of course all their regulars would try to buy the most tickets...

Top models on there charge a pre-tip to go to a show... you can't even take them even though it's pretty expensive... I know some top models charged 20,000 tokens which is $2,000 for the member to go to a show... cause they were making so much money from tips in free chat they didn't even want to do private shows...
 

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I was using it as an example to show that people need long term goals. But your post shows how shortsighted people are these days.
in what way? not everyone’s long term goal is to work a corporate job....just because YOU think that’s the pathway to success doesn’t mean that’s the definition of success for everyone
 

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Exactly the ones making bank are charging for you to even be their Instagram friend. Some charging for Skype dinners and conversation. The ones really making bank really hustle. There was one chick I knew doing it and making bank and I was damn girl you are so good at what you do. These men want to feel special and like a valued customer. Personal pics and messages. The smart chicks charge for everything they can

You do realize you can usutilize those same skills while using platforms like instagram, yt, or any other social media app.

So wouldn't the men have more power since they have the money. Plus they are profiting off of strangers loneliness and depression.
 
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Normalizing xes "work" = Normalizing women as xesual objects
Selling your body is not empowering and is regressive. I'm honestly scared for the future. Also all the "let me do what I want with my body!!!11!" sh!t is tired. Your whole "job" is based on men telling you what to do with your body.
I wouldn't be mad if this didn't fall back on how every women is seen. pδrn is also bad for the brain. I hate how normalized this sh!t is.
Some good articles vvv
xes positivity - 4W - A Feminist Publication
 

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Hmmm. The latest bruhahas around Onlyfans is interesting because it is literally the adult industry evolving as media consumption changes. I just personally am not going to preach to these grown ppl, (men AND women, there are many gay men who utilize OF as well) about this. Ppl have to make money and if they are consenting adults it's all good with me.

Many ppl will regret doing OF because they aren't being realistic in the work and time it takes to get ppl interested in your work as well as the stigma attached to doing xes work.

I agree with fonts who say liberation isn't exploitation of your body for men. But where does a woman's autonomy begin?? What in this world do we consume or actions we take not impacted and influenced by the male gaze?? At least with OF these folks are in charge of their own business and receiving their money directly and possibly learning some entrepreneurial skills in the process.

And quiet as it's kept as long as we live under a capitalist system, exploitation is the name of the game. If you have a job, you are being exploited for your labor by a corporation that owes you more for your work.
There are so many ways to utilize the principles of capitalism without having xesual intercourse or showing strangers your genitals online. The lack of value these women place on their bodies is an apparent marker of some sort of xesual or mental dysfunction but this is never mentioned. Ideology is Ideology. Reality is reality.
 

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There's going to be sooooo much competition on OnlyFans that women will be forced to reduce their price to the current market & men will love that.

Also OnlyFans has security breaches all the time it's not safe. Whats next another Ashley Madison type of data breach?
 
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in what way? not everyone’s long term goal is to work a corporate job....just because YOU think that’s the pathway to success doesn’t mean that’s the definition of success for everyone
Do you know what the word ‘example’ means?
 

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It definitely helps perpetuate the idea that women have nothing to offer besides our bodies. Also the notion that “xes workers” have full control is intellectually dishonest. Giving men what they want for the price of a happy meal while jeopardizing your own future isn’t empowering but these liberal feminists are so deep into twitter mantra politics that they can’t comprehend deeper feminist analysis without circular arguments about “choice”
 

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How come when people talk about this subject they only mention women?? Like men do it too, but I don’t see anyone complaining about their pages.

If any man judges all “ women kind” as a WHOLE entity based on a stripper/xes worker behavior. That man was already a sexist misogynist to begin with.

I just don’t understand people need to control a GROWN ASS WOMAN sexuality.
 

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The only thing I don't like about onlyfans is that you have little kids and underage teens who are aware of it.

But I think onlyfans is better than the pδrn sites. At least the women are making more money, on their own terms, and generally don't have to do super degrading stuff. Seems a bit more ethical than regular pδrn I guess?
Ethical did you say? Really? Nice to know a woman will just sell herself if the price is right. You are suggesting women have no morality at all.
 

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What entrepreneurial skills??? Let’s see, online marketing and engagement(Ppl need to want to subscribe to your page, you have to stand out),Money and Business Management(What money is coming in vs expenses, what needs to be reinvested into the content), Customer Service(are you aware of your audience and what they are looking for) those are just a FEW things.

Secondly who is trying to seem noble?? What the hell are you talking about?? And thirdly YES the male gaze runs through damn near everything because we are ALL socialized within a patriarchal system.
If we were truly in a patriarchy, more women would be married. We are in the midst of a gender war aiming to destroy family foundations in the guise of liberation, which is really just a word they use to mean "unbridled self centered goal setting". Men are being feminized and women and now even children are being sexualized. This is not the patriarchy of the 1980s. This is a post modernist, revisionist, antisocial, failed capitalist society on the brink of collapse.
 

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Someone tweeted a screenshot from Only Fans notifying them that their $1500 monthly earnings or whatever put them in the top 10%. So not only are their nudes out there circulating, they're barely earning a living wage.

From what I know, if you're not already established, you have to post free teaser (half naked or nude) pics on social media or Reddit to entice people to join. It's all so risky.
 

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If we were truly in a patriarchy, more women would be married. We are in the midst of a gender war aiming to destroy family foundations in the guise of liberation, which is really just a word they use to mean "unbridled self centered goal setting". Men are being feminized and women and now even children are being sexualized. This is not the patriarchy of the 1980s. This is a post modernist, revisionist, antisocial, failed capitalist society on the brink of collapse.
Very excellent insight and post.
 

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Someone tweeted a screenshot from Only Fans notifying them that their $1500 monthly earnings or whatever put them in the top 10%. So not only are their nudes out there circulating, they're barely earning a living wage.

From what I know, if you're not already established, you have to post free teaser (half naked or nude) pics on social media or Reddit to entice people to join. It's all so risky.

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Very interesting topic!

I'm just gonna say something I've noticed; how all men suddenly become women's rights champions when it comes to women's right to sell their bodies.

Hmm...
 

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Like the other fonts here, I don't see a problem with Onlyfans. It is a convenient and legal way to make extra money. As long as the models choose to do so of their own volition, they are knowledgable of the risks, and they get to keep their proceeds, I don't see an issue. Just like any other form of xes work, especially online xes work like pδrn stars/webcam models/phone xes operators.

I honestly believe that the reason it's became extremely popular is because of the current pandemic where a lot of people are out of work right now due to being in quarantine. These women still have bills to pay/kids to feed, to choose to do online xes work.

But nothing is new under the sun.

So it's a modern form of selling ass for tricks? This pro-slut, pro-hoe generation is setting women's accomplishments a hundred years back......it's pretty sad actually. This reality alone proves to me that the USA specifically, is unequivocally on it's decline....Damn!
 

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did you not see this?:

That sounds like something you or "your Danish people" pulled out of y'alls asses. Pornography being filmed in public around children is not acceptable just because some backwards Danes say so
 

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I always think about it this way.......I plan to be something big in my life working in corporate and possibly politics.....do I want someone digging up on my past and finding such things about me? It’s actually quite easy to do - there are companies who specialise on those kinds of background checks.

I feel like people these days have short term thinking.

That's great.

Let me introduce you to FLOTUS

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and KKW

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That sounds like something you or "your Danish people" pulled out of y'alls asses. Pornography being filmed in public around children is not acceptable just because some backwards Danes say so

Thank you for sharing which Nordic country you are from and the attitudes towards xes/women/xes work there.

They are not backwards. They are now doctors, work in the UN, business, etc. All have had healthy relationships with women including black women.. one is married to one now.
 

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Why engage if you're not going to respond? Pathetic. Just like OP who hasn't appreciate the responses and refuses to engage.

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And I just looked it up. Yup.
Love and Relationships in the "Happiest Country in the World"

They start having xes age 11-12, xes is normalized and in public as stated in the Georgetown piece.

Where the F Nordic country are you from?
 

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So it's a modern form of selling ass for tricks? This pro-slut, pro-hoe generation is setting women's accomplishments a hundred years back......it's pretty sad actually. This reality alone proves to me that the USA specifically, is unequivocally on it's decline....Damn!

I don't think it's setting women's accomplishments a hundred years back. The accomplishments that women back will never be taken away. And a woman who decides to sell her xesual content won't change that.
 

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Honestly I think the whole xesual liberation and women’s right should’ve stopped at the allowing women to freely dress how they want and their right to engage in xes freely. Extending that to women posting their vaginas on the internet and selling their bodies for $7 is sad. I know for some women it’s a need and desperation because they have kids to support and jobs often don’t pay enough. It’s absolutely crazy when women who are kidless or still living with their parents aren’t atleast trying to pursue a higher education, certification, or start a business.
 

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sorry that that’s your experience however most grown adult men are not asking for nudes and even if they do simply say no is it that hard?

These people are Low-Value and showing themselves.

Blaming xes workers.. misdirected energy.
 
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While I understand xes positivity I can't help but feel that it benefits men in the long run. And I don't think it's worth the little bit of money to have nudes on the internet where the men are largely getting it for free and with the over-saturation men are going to expect more. We shouldn't compare women whose careers are based around xes as they aren't the norm.
 

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like the font who’s brother in law was subscribed to her only fans.. like come tf on..

I’m refusing to believe that women still believe this is a good idea. “mEn aRe tHe oNes wHo pAy fOr iT. bLamE tHeM”

No. Just because you CAN plaster your ass on the internet for money doesn’t mean you should. I just don’t get it.


I agree. This is being normalized for a reason. They want women and young girls to lose their values, morals, decency in the name of materialism and staying hip to this fake feminism wave.

We as human beings are not meant to be spreading around and exposing our bodies like that. We have been conditioned to think otherwise and to point out people like me as haters.

I do not let my daughter watch, listen or be influenced by any hypersexual celebs. All that women empowering movement is phony as fvck.
 

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I agree. This is being normalized for a reason. They want women and young girls to lose their values, morals, decency in the name of materialism and staying hip to this fake feminism wave.

We as human beings are not meant to be spreading around and exposing our bodies like that. We have been conditioned to think otherwise and to point out people like me as haters.

I do not let my daughter watch, listen or be influenced by any hypersexual celebs. All that women empowering movement is phony as fvck.
you literally have eartha kitt as your avi. from catwoman no less
 

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you literally have eartha kitt as your avi. from catwoman no less

Yeah, I like some Hollywood characters. I liked that gif when i created this profile. My point still stands. I've stopped watching and listening to a lot of the things I used to. I am waking up to a lot of things. and have so much more growing to do. I am trying to do better for my kids and maybe there is a young teen reading this and will change their mind of how they value their body.
 

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